Bruno Fernandes Out? | Staying at Man United

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hellhunter said:
I don't disagree, and I can't really see Bruno being the one pushing to leave for Saudi Arabia at this stage of his career
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Hasn't he basically said he'll do whatever the club wants?

He wants to stay and play for us, but if we decide we need the money rather than his services, he'll go.
 
Scandi Red said:
We already got 9 (?) regular starters who are 24 or younger. We got bags of potential. This is already a young squad.

What we lack is actual quality. Players who are the finished product. Players who can help the young ones grow.
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Keep building, actual quality you buy when you are close to or just won a title.

There's no quick fix to United. Anyone thinking we will be winning loads in a couple of years is out of their mind. At least in terms of trophies we should be winning.

This should be the plan
- 25/26 - Compete for Europe (very least top 8) - mostly possible because of no Europe advantage.
- 26/27 - Compete for Europe, possibly champions league - top 5/6
- 27/28 - Top three in the league and reach the latter rounds of champions league
- 28/29 - Possibly compete for the league and last 8 of champions league
- 29/30 - Win
 
Alex99 said:
Hasn't he basically said he'll do whatever the club wants?

He wants to stay and play for us, but if we decide we need the money rather than his services, he'll go.
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Yep, so that would make me believe the motivation to entertain this offer comes from the club.
 
£100m just to start the conversation. I’ve had frustrations with Fernandes, he’s almost 31, gives the ball away a lot and isn’t a great fit for the system. But he’s by far and away our best player and a great pro. We would be a lot weaker without him and there’s no obvious replacements that seem available.
 
would be madness not to offload him at this stage given the quoted bid size and Bruno’s deficiencies as a player
 
kanobbk said:
I genuinely fear for our club and the future if we sell him, even at £100m (which is more accurate to his value). Not a single fibre of my being trusts Wilcox and Berrada to confidently and astutely spend the money wisely, on competent and future proofed replacements.

If we go and purchase Mbeumo for example, I really can't see how that even begins to fix the issue of losing our most (and Europe's most) creative midfielder. If creativity is not replaced with Bruno's potential departure, then strap in, the future is bleak.
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Mbeumo is not a replacement for Bruno at all
 
leontas said:
Not sure how I feel about this. We look extremely mediocre without Bruno in the team and he rarely misses games through injury so it's going to be hard to replace him.

On the other hand, he's getting older and might be a good idea to cash in on him now and find a younger replacement.
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We look extremely mediocre with him in the team too. A team that just scraped 15th that needs an entire rebuild and hasn’t got the money available to do it can’t be turning down 100m for 30 year olds. If Bruno wants to go there then let him.
 
Feels like a press release has gone out everyone reporting he’s considering the move
 
MaMa given red said:
From Laurie Whitwell,

The deal, according to people familiar with the matter speaking anonymously to protect relationships, is for four years on €25million a year net, equivalent to triple his current salary, while Al Hilal are said to be prepared to pay United £80m.
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Maybe, but no chance we sell him for that. If they want him that badly they'll pay up.
 
I read yesterday that the winner of the Club World Cup gets about £100m prize money?? No wonder they want him quickly.
 
80? Just feck off.

100 just to get us to the negotiating table.
 
For his age - would be a great deal for us financially. Can't blame him either. He's been a terrific servant to the club and that's a lot of money at this stage of his career to turn down.

If it happens, I'd be sad but will send him off thankful and hope he has continued success elsewhere.

If he stays then I'd be happy and hope he can play at this level for several more years.
 
Castia said:
We’d struggle for a 1-1 replacement for Bruno thats a fact but that fee added to the summers budget should allow us to build a decent side with 4 or so quality additions, if the club with its new transfer setup can’t re-invest 300m+ to make us a better side we may as well just give up
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That's my issue, I'd want to see that new scouting/transfer set up work positively before gambling on selling our best player. There'd be zero point in investing it if the players brought in don't deliver or even if they improve the team a little but not enough to make up for the loss of creativity and output in Fernandes going
 
Sell our best player

What else is on the cards for 2025 for Manchester United? Sir Alex gets dementia and starts doing a George Bush senior?
 
I wouldn't like to lose Bruno, but if we are getting £100m I think it's hard to turn down. I've said before on this thread, if Bruno was to leave for that money, I'd use it to try and get Wharton in.

I do think our more recent signings have improved under INEOS and Wilcock. I'd be less concerned that they would squander the money.
 
I know people are saying £100m for a 31-year old is too good to pass up, but does anyone have any faith at all that the clowns in charge of our club will invest this money wisely? I honestly think that without Bruno we'll be in serious, serious trouble next year.
 
I'm getting real 'sinking ship' vibes from this. Imagine how we would have fared this season if we sold Bruno last year.
 
hellhunter said:
But what happens if they fail to push on? Every transfer is a risk of course, but if it doesn't work out, where are we headed?
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I have that worry too. However, we are in a tight financial situation due to the sins of the past and don't have room to fill all the gaps in our team. This is a long rebuild that would require both money and patience. At some point we have to trust the recruitment team to get it right. We cannot hold on to a 80m-100m asset on high wages just because we are afraid of the worst. I say we have to roll the dice if opportunity arises. We may never get the same opportunity for a player who'll be 31 when the next season starts.
 
Mickeza said:
We look extremely mediocre with him in the team too. A team that just scraped 15th that needs an entire rebuild and hasn’t got the money available to do it can’t be turning down 100m for 30 year olds. If Bruno wants to go there then let him
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SilentWitness said:
If you can squeeze out 100m it would be a good deal for everyone involved.
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Agree with both. If we are unable to get proper deals done after he leaves then we are doomed either way.
 
It be fecking stupid if we are about to sign a proper striker and he goes.
 
Wolfbot said:
How is having a couple of decent players more likely to help you win major trophies than keeping your current best player (by a mile) and adding to the squad while he's in it?

You sell a player like that when you are in a position of strength, or he isn't able to offer what he used to. You don't sell your only credible threat for a couple of decent players. We did that with Ronaldo under Ferguson when we were in a much better place and even then that didn't really help the team in the long run.

In my opinion you need that X factor in some of your players to be able to win games. A squad full of decent players wouldn't cut it, we need some legit high quality as well.

I like Cunha, MBuemo etc, but I doubt they're going to do what Fernandes does for us if he goes.
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I agree but my only point is this. There's no chance we are winning anything major while Bruno is at his peak. If you realuize that you might invest the money more long-term.
 
Can we not loan him to them for the club world cup for a decent size fee. I wouldn't imagine they'd go far anyway.
 
The absolute stupid giddiness over 100m from some here. What are you buying to replace him with that fee. Keeping in mind we'd get around 40 if we sent him to Saudi in 2 years.

This isn't championship manager. 100m got us hojlund and dorgu. 100m got onana and ugarte.
 
I really like Bruno but if we're seriously considering a rebuild and instead of pretending "one-two new signings and we will challenge for the title next season" we focus on long-term future, it makes sense to sell now for 80-100m.
 
SER19 said:
The absolute stupid giddiness over 100m from some here. What are you buying to replace him with that fee. Keeping in mind we'd get around 40 if we sent him to Saudi in 2 years.

This isn't championship manager. 100m got us hojlund and dorgu. 100m got onana and ugarte.
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Exactly. People are in dreamland
 
100m minimum and i would agree.

80m for a first bid is nice, but i think we can find an agreement at 100m.

Bruno will be 31 soon, you never know when his performances will drop. He is now already quite inconsistent, with a good output. If this dries up, then he is not worth much.
 
It would be very stupid to accept 80M.

Stone and Whitwell reporting it though so looks like there's been a brief
 
SER19 said:
The absolute stupid giddiness over 100m from some here. What are you buying to replace him with that fee. Keeping in mind we'd get around 40 if we sent him to Saudi in 2 years.

This isn't championship manager. 100m got us hojlund and dorgu. 100m got onana and ugarte.
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If you assume our transfers will always be as bad as those instigated by EtH, we might as well close the club immediately. We need and we will buy smarter that that - and 100m pounds could get us 2-3 players with potential to be important first-team members in a year, two or three.
 
UnitedSofa said:
Mbeumo is not a replacement for Bruno at all
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I know, which is why I never said that he was?

I merely used one of the attackers we've been linked with in recent days/weeks, for an example of how poor the Mbeumo signing would be if we were to lose Bruno.

As I stated, I do not trust our footballing department (other than Vivell) to correctly spend Bruno's sale fee wisely. They'd likely go and purchase an Mbeumo and think it's a 1:1 deal, when anyone with just a smidge of footballing IQ understands that it's not even close.

So I'll say it again, if Bruno is sold and the creativity that he brings isn't even 50% replaced, expect the future to be incredibly bleak.
 
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SirScholes said:
We had Ronaldo in the ranks when ruud left man, the need to keep stars wasn’t the same as it is now. How you can compare this situation to back then when we had the greatest manager of all time is baffling

And there is not competing and there is relegation form.
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The same Cristiano that the fans had banked wasn’t better than Wayne Rooney and could be sold?

Again, stop comparing like for like, there are too many moving factors which can be swung as a positive or negative.

My original point was his sale allows us to focus on getting players more suited to his formation and will give Amorim(in my opinion) a better chance of succeeding. Just if anyone needed a view of when we changed our style after losing a key player which has benefited us.. see Ruud Van Nistelrooy.

I wasn’t indicating we would now win the league however anyone now thinking we will be relegated are just a stupid (In my opinion).
 
SER19 said:
The absolute stupid giddiness over 100m from some here. What are you buying to replace him with that fee. Keeping in mind we'd get around 40 if we sent him to Saudi in 2 years.

This isn't championship manager. 100m got us hojlund and dorgu. 100m got onana and ugarte.
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But you can then look at other clubs and see that 100m got them very good players. Just because your recruitment has been poor in the past, it doesn't mean that the future recruitment will, but it's understandable to be cautious.

Getting 100m for Fernandes and potentially 50m+ for Garnacho, along with the other players leaving, will allow you to completely reshape the squad for Amorim. Whether that is good or not is another question, but it allows it to happen.
 
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