Trent Alexander Arnold | Real Madrid Player

Can’t the winner of the thing win around 97m? Having a full squad of players in every position is in their best interests.

I’d imagine Trent has given up a portion of his sign on fee as part of this arrangement too, meaning limited net cost for Madrid.
 
In fairness as jammy as it is, i dont think the 10m is just for the friendly, its likely to be a sweetener to keep the clubs relationship good considering i think liverpool could do the whole tribunal thing and get around 4m anyway?
It’s also a misleading figure, as it includes the wages they’re saving whilst he’s not there. It’s like the reverse United effect of reporting finances.
 
You get 125 million dollars if you win the competition.

Still seems a bit steep, but it's not like it's a large amount of money for a club like yours anyway.

10m is 8% of the winner's total prize fund, and you're getting money at each stage of the competition anyway. You're not expected to bomb out early with or without him.

I don't know how to do the total maths - but you get $40m more for winning the final than losing it - his availability isn't going to boost the chance in the final by 25% if getting that far. Would have to go through each stage in a similar way if wanting to put a number on it but I'm sure it would be a lot less than 10m as fair figure. 1m-3m? Think 3 would be generous to Liverpool.
 
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In fairness as jammy as it is, i dont think the 10m is just for the friendly, its likely to be a sweetener to keep the clubs relationship good considering i think liverpool could do the whole tribunal thing and get around 4m anyway?
Uh?
 
Haha you have to laugh! United are truly awful in the transfer market yet Liverpool are getting 10M for Trent to start a bit early.

Crazy!
 
Only Liverpool can get a transfer fee for a free agent, the football gods just love to add salt in our deep wounds.
Only Liverpool have their transfer fees in reported without bonuses and their transfer fees out reported inclusive of all potential bonuses. I’d bet good money the truth about this £8.4m is that Real will only pay the full amount if they hit a lot of conditions.
 
Still seems a bit steep, but it's not like it's a large amount of money for a club like yours anyway.

10m is 8% of the winner's total prize fund, and you're getting money at each stage of the competition anyway. You're not expected to bomb out early with or without him.

I don't know how to do the total maths - but you get $40m more for winning the final than losing it - his availability isn't going to boost the chance in the final by 25% if getting that far. Would have to go through each stage in a similar way if wanting to put a number on it but I'm sure it would be a lot less than 10m as fair figure. 1m-3m? Think 3 would be generous to Liverpool.
From what I understand, most of the money is in the late stages of the competition. From semis to winner is like 90m out of the potential 125m. So not bombing out won't help much, they need to do well if they want the money.

Keep in mind that Real Madrid have injury problems. Carvajal has been injured all season, it's unclear whether he'll play at the CWC. If he does he'll be rusty. His substitute Vazquez has been poor all season and will leave the club after the CWC. So that position is looking very rough without Alexander-Arnold. Then there are other injured players like Mendy, Militao, Alaba, Rudiger. They really need to have some defenders available if they don't want to get clowned on.

In a broader sense RM have been very cheap when it comes to defenders over the last 4-5 seasons and it has finally collapsed on them so they are just spending a lot of money to get a bunch of them in ASAP.
 
United really need to learn from Liverpool. We have a 5m cancellation policy in the Sancho deal, which is terrible, that's a loan fee price. It's nothing for them to pay that and move on to other targets. It should have been minimum 10m.
 
Wait, so Liverpool got more for an outgoing Trent Alexander-Arnold to play for Real at the Club World Cup than United got to whore ourselves out in a postseason tour?
 
Wait, so Liverpool got more for an outgoing Trent Alexander-Arnold to play for Real at the Club World Cup than United got to whore ourselves out in a postseason tour?
I can see the likes of paddy power drafting their tweets right now. This news alongside our open top bus tour of Malaysia in front of one man and his dog.
 
Wait, so Liverpool got more for an outgoing Trent Alexander-Arnold to play for Real at the Club World Cup than United got to whore ourselves out in a postseason tour?
You'll get more money than 10m if Real Madrid buys Carreras from Benfica, IIRC.
 
It’s not always as simple as “player leaves on a free contract” Bosman transfers can go to arbitration and there is usually compensation paid out to academy players who leave on free transfers if I remember correctly.

Edit: Apparently only between English divisions, no idea for foreign transfers.
 
It’s not always as simple as “player leaves on a free contract” Bosman transfers can go to arbitration and there is usually compensation paid out to academy players who leave on free transfers if I remember correctly..
Clubs are due an indemnity for "formative" rights, but it's not 4m. I was wondering where that figure came from
 
Fecking Madrid…. I hope Leverkusen doesn’t see this or that Tah‘s deal was already signed. They really fecked up the whole transfer window with that CWC.
 
Clearly I've been living under a rock because I had no idea the club world cup is now a) a proper full-length tournament and b) throwing obscene amounts of money at the winners.
 
Still seems a bit steep, but it's not like it's a large amount of money for a club like yours anyway.

10m is 8% of the winner's total prize fund, and you're getting money at each stage of the competition anyway. You're not expected to bomb out early with or without him.

I don't know how to do the total maths - but you get $40m more for winning the final than losing it - his availability isn't going to boost the chance in the final by 25% if getting that far. Would have to go through each stage in a similar way if wanting to put a number on it but I'm sure it would be a lot less than 10m as fair figure. 1m-3m? Think 3 would be generous to Liverpool.

125m is a huge amount of money for a football club because the spending is absolutely insane. Real Madrid made the most revenue of all time last year (€1bn) - yet only actually made €16m profit - this is why they're always trying to get plays to come on a free.
 
125m is a huge amount of money for a football club because the spending is absolutely insane. Real Madrid made the most revenue of all time last year (€1bn) - yet only actually made €16m profit - this is why they're always trying to get plays to come on a free.

Is the spending on wages?

If true, the spending can't be considered sustainable. Plus, doesn't UEFA have limits on spending as a proportion of revenue?
 
Is the spending on wages?

If true, the spending can't be considered sustainable. Plus, doesn't UEFA have limits on spending as a proportion of revenue?
Operating expenses, including amortization, total wage bill(Madrid's is around 50% of revenue iirc) stadium costs, travel costs, etc, etc

There's also the men's basketball team and women's football team, the former at least costs the club millions every year(as in, the club loses millions on it every year)
 
This can't be true surely? Why the hell would Real agree to pay 10 million for 30 days for their own player? Something is a bit fishy with this one
 
This can't be true surely? Why the hell would Real agree to pay 10 million for 30 days for their own player? Something is a bit fishy with this one
The FIFA abomination pays upwards of 100m euros to the winner and Madrid really wants to win that money
 
This can't be true surely? Why the hell would Real agree to pay 10 million for 30 days for their own player? Something is a bit fishy with this one
The FIFA abomination pays upwards of 100m euros to the winner and Madrid really wants to win that money
Also, the way the media report Liverpool related stories is usually very favourable - it's maybe that much with various bonuses kicking in depending on how the tournament begins, but a lower fee to begin with.
 
But 10m is simply insanity.
I don't see Florentino as a guy that likes insane moves. 10 m may be insanity but the actual circumstances also are.

Real Madrid have almost all their defenders injured and knowing our luck, we could suffer even more injuries during the competition. You cannot go with academy players to a tournament played every four years that is meant to become a big one in the future and is likely to generate a lot of direct and indirect income for the club.
 
I don't see Florentino as a guy that likes insane moves. 10 m may be insanity but the actual circumstances also are.

Real Madrid have almost all their defenders injured and knowing our luck, we could suffer even more injuries during the competition. You cannot go with academy players to a tournament played every four years that is meant to become a big one in the future and is likely to generate a lot of direct and indirect income for the club.
Bayern has the same issue with Leverkusen regarding Tah. It’s simply braindead scheduling on the part of FIFA.
 
Also, the way the media report Liverpool related stories is usually very favourable - it's maybe that much with various bonuses kicking in depending on how the tournament begins, but a lower fee to begin with.
Only Liverpool have their transfer fees in reported without bonuses and their transfer fees out reported inclusive of all potential bonuses. I’d bet good money the truth about this £8.4m is that Real will only pay the full amount if they hit a lot of conditions.
Usual suspects with your calimero complex at it again :lol: You both have zero zilch nada idea about how that amount is structured and what is/isn't included.

And sure, reporting without bonuses... Most recent significant transfer that came to my mind. But yeah, very favourable because uhm... yeah, just because.
 
This can't be true surely? Why the hell would Real agree to pay 10 million for 30 days for their own player? Something is a bit fishy with this one
He was our player until June 30th if they hadn't done so - it wasn't for "their own player".
 
From what I understand, most of the money is in the late stages of the competition. From semis to winner is like 90m out of the potential 125m. So not bombing out won't help much, they need to do well if they want the money.

Real Madrid will be guaranteed around ~$38M just for participating, winning all 3 games (2M per win and 1M per draw) and making the 1/4 finals will generate an extra $27M … that’s $65M and there is another 60M to earn. Winning the 1/4 game is worth an extra 21 M, winning the semifinal will be worth 30M and winning the final 10M…

So basically not bombing out is worth circa 25M… Does that really justify paying 10 M to get him for the competition?
 
Real Madrid will be guaranteed around ~$38M just for participating, winning all 3 games (2M per win and 1M per draw) and making the 1/4 finals will generate an extra $27M … that’s $65M and there is another 60M to earn. Winning the 1/4 game is worth an extra 21 M, winning the semifinal will be worth 30M and winning the final 10M…

So basically not bombing out is worth circa 25M… Does that really justify paying 10 M to get him for the competition?

Someone said they've not got many fit defenders.
 
They're getting 13% of Bruno's supposed value to have a player who has already left them go play in a glorified friendly tournament :lol: how do FSG do it? And that melt Neville says they need an ownership change because it takes them a few extra months to get contracts done. I'd certainly hope they'd be so daft.
 
Our fans are amazing. All looking on with envy about 10m when they've just lost an 80m player on a free.

Grass is always greener complex.
 
When it rains it pours, how the feck did they manage to get that much for somone who was leaving in a month anyway??
Actually insane, Madrid are mad to have paid that imo.