Those are some sweet goals. He plays great with his back to the goal.Here's a video with ten of his best goals (well, at least according to the guy who made the video, Jaap Stam also makes a nice cameo:
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i think he meant a striker role where he was holding the ball up.
Then I am happy for the info he gave me. Thanks D J Dog Toffee
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He meant that when you are just using the noun generally, eg. talking about an arsenal of weapons, you don't use a capital letter. It's only when referring to the football club or another particular named building/establishment (such as the Woolwich Arsenal or the 'Arsenal' in Vienna) that you use a capital letter.
Yes I was, thanks. Playing with his back to goal and bringing the wingers into the game. Strong enough to hold off the centre backs as well.
It's just that some people seem to think that he justs waits around on the penalty spot nods/slots the ball home. There is definitely more to his game.
Feck me.....he scores a hell of a lot of overhead / bicycle kicks
There's only one name in my mind when i see an ajax number nine scoring bicycle kicks - the legendary marco van basten....seriously, of all strikers i've ever seen, even ruud, KJH reminds me the most of van basten...
That said, we've seen how kuyt and kezman were dutch league hot shots scoring for fun, but were in the end, quite shit...how does KJH compare to those two? Would say the only way to tell is his record in europe as well as at international level.....and at the moment i think the jury's still out....clearly a good player, but whether he's van basten or kuyt/kezman remains to be seen.
That's it exactly. Ronaldo and Van Nistlerooy or Kezman and Kuyt
As a finisher Ruud doesn't even come close to Klaas IMO.
That is one of the stupidest things I've ever read on here
Because you obviously haven't watched Klaas. So choose to laugh with your other ignorant friend. I don't give a shit frankly. I have no doubt Klaas is the best finisher around bar none in world football currently. His goal record and variety of goals is unmatched
Yeah top scorer in the Dutch league, tops the Spanish and English leagues oh and the Champions League
You are fool. Scoring in a tougher league or competition doesn't make you a better finisher. With that logic you will start to tell me Henry is a better finisher than Ruud.Yeah top scorer in the Dutch league, tops the Spanish and English leagues oh and the Champions League
Can't recall Henry winning the goal scoring title in the Champions League or Spain or Italy for that matterYou are fool. Scoring in a tougher league or competition doesn't make you a better finisher. With that logic you will start to tell me Henry is a better finisher than Ruud.
But you have conveniently forgotten him out scoring Ruud at Premiership and International level, right?
Chief, will the defenders in Premiership give Huntelaar special treatment and render him ineffective as he does not have pace to shake them off?
He has been International longer than Ruud and also had a longer stint in the Prem than Ruud
To be fair, Ruud was never the best finisher in the world. He was up there, no doubt, but in terms of pure finishing ability he wasn't even the best in our team. Ole was.
What Ruud had was supreme positioning, always getting himself in the right position to be on the end of passes and crosses. He was the best in the world at that, but his finishing wasn't quite at the same level.
Ole never scored 40+ goals
goal scoring isn't just a function of pure finishing. ruud had more strength and better anticipation in the box, however from a pure 'cleanliness' of strike, ole was the best. Ole is one of the best i've ever seen in that sense, in terms of how sweetly and cleanly he can strike a ball, consistent with that too.
KJH is worth a punt of 15 million quid. My ideal strike force would be wazza, tevez, kjh, benzema. Perfect quartet. each bringing something distinctly to the table, making for very good combinations. not to mention youth and hunger.
40+ goals is a mark of great finishing how many players at Manchester United have ever gotten 40 goals in a season, not many
Ruud was one of the best finishers our club had ever had. He scored piles of goals at every level and in every league he had played in. Stating that he is not a great finisher is like saying that gravity doesnt exist.
not saying that rvn isn't a great finisher, he is. I am saying that in my opinion ole is a better finisher, in that he strikes a ball cleaner, from a wider variety of areas and angles.
That's debatable Ruud could score from anywhere in the box, Ole was more a sniper who lined up and took his chances, both were great, but I rate RvN as a better striker and finisher than Ole tbh
Ruud was far, far better at getting himself in position to score, both because of his positioning and his superior physical attributes. Just about the undisputed best in the world. And he had great finishing, obviously.
But in terms of one player being one on one with the keeper, or with defenders coming through to block him, I'd take Ole every time. Ruud had great finishing, but Ole was absolutely world class. If he had a chance, it was virtually guaranteed he would bury it. He just didn't create as many chances as Ruud.
Effectively, Ruud would create five goal scoring chances and score three. Ole would create two and score two. That means Ruud would obviously score more and was the better player, but that doesn't mean he was simply better at finishing.
Don't ever recall Ole taking a penalty over Ruud
Ole's one of the best finishers I've seen.
As is Ruud.
As is Ruud.
Penalties are a completely different scenario than pure, god-given finishing ability. I only missed one penalty in my life, and that was the very first I ever took ((well, I missed one other in training when I was screwing around). But I'm not saying that my in-game finishing was anything over good.
Pure finishing ability is more instinctual, and Ole was the best I've seen in a Utd shirt. Ruud is certainly up there, but in the next bracket down. That's not disparaging to Ruud in anyway.
How could you class scoring penalties as not being a great finisher Cantona was an excellent finisher as well
Penalties are a completely different scenario than pure, god-given finishing ability. I only missed one penalty in my life, and that was the very first I ever took ((well, I missed one other in training when I was screwing around). But I'm not saying that my in-game finishing was anything over good.
Nobody is saying Ruud wasn't an excellent finisher. He just wasn't quite as good as Ole.
As I said in the edit:
Pure finishing ability is more instinctual, and Ole was the best I've seen in a Utd shirt. Ruud is certainly up there, but in the next bracket down. That's not disparaging to Ruud in anyway.
Ruud was great at finishing. You'd feel confident that they would finish a chance if they had one. But Ole you would bet your house on.
I agree with that Ole was excellent finisher as was Ruud but looking at the numebrs I don't see how you could say Ole is a better finisher than Ruud. Ruud would scores goals in several games on his only chance of the game and make no mistake abot he was a big time goalscorer
Who cares about numbers and statistics? I prefer to use my own eyes.
Ruud scored shitloads of goals because he had the best goalscoring positioning in the world, combined with the physique to hold off defenders and attack balls in the air, combined with excellent finishing ability. That excellent finishing ability meant that he normally would score in the only chance of a game, it's hardly like he missed regularly.
Ruud was the best out-and-out goalscorer in the world. Ole just happened to be slighly superior in one of the many aspects which made him that goal machine. It's like saying that Duncan Ferguson had superior strength and aerial ability - certainly doesn't mean he had a better overall package than Ruud.
Anyways, we're going in circles here and it looks like neither is going to convince the other, so let's just accept our differences.
Agreed, Ruud has been struggling to score goals ever since he left the dutch league and has to be considerred a flop along with kuyt/kezman. The unproven Klass all the Chief
Jesus, do people not understand that theres more to playing in the striker role than just fecking 'finishing'. Ruuds positioning was his best strength and that was the reason that seperated him from practically every other striker in the world. 'Right place, right time'. Ruud was certainly a good finisher, but do not give me any of this bollocks that he was better than Ole ffs.
Ole was one of those players that you could rely on to hit the target from any angle and from any position. Ruud was not.
Ole was one of those players that you could rely on to hit the target from any angle and from any position. Ruud was not.
Difference between finishing and positioning.
Ole was easily the better finisher than Ruud who was much better in getting into position for all those chances.
I agree, i have not seen a much better finisher than ruud.