Sir A1ex
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Was he no good in league matches like Everton, Newcastle and Spurs tha won him Player of the Month for September '01 then?Veron's only decent games for us was in the CL, but that's not saying much.
Was he no good in league matches like Everton, Newcastle and Spurs tha won him Player of the Month for September '01 then?Veron's only decent games for us was in the CL, but that's not saying much.
It was clearly Keane.Gary Neville didn't even play that nite, the team was;
Barthez
Brown
Blanc
Johnsen
Silvestre
Scholes
Butt
Keane
Giggs
Veron
RVN
And then he goes and buys him.
I know
Jog on you mugs, keano simply aired what we all thought at the time....as per usual. The only problem this time was that keano had passed the peak of his powers so was disposable.didn´t he say something about Liam Miller, who he also bought?
and I´m pretty sure I read he also said something about Van der sar, saying he should have done better with 1 or 2 of the goals in the Boro game.
I do wish you'd shut your noise. The bloke is at sunderland...not utd. Its hardly surprising our cast offs are going to be good enough for his side.One of the most plausible sounding articles that I read was the one that came out in The Guardian It was a general attack.
Darren Fletcher, Alan Smith, John O'Shea and Liam Miller are supposed to have appeared in the "will never be good enough" section. Richardson and a couple of others were in the "not coming on as well as they should" bit and Rio and other "senior players" were accused of not setting the right example to the team and in particular of not leading the young and talented (that'd be Roo and Ron) in the right way.
Personally I thought it was a bit rich coming from someone who was part of the problem with the team - and was neither disappointed nor surprised when he was shipped out. But I know a lot of fans loved hearing the mud being slung at the team and Quieroz.
Of course, after a couple of months with Celtic - Keane claims he'd learned a lot and was now able to sympathise with people like Veron (talented players who couldn't fit in). Then as manager he started hiring the United transfer list - presumably because a 75% United player is better than none. He now admits that his training methods haven't actually given him the super-fit, fully commited team he expected. Not easy actually being in charge.
Agree with that part.Jog on you mugs, keano simply aired what we all thought at the time....as per usual. The only problem this time was that keano had passed the peak of his powers so was disposable.
Make no mistake had he said the same at his peak it would have died very quickly.
I do wish you'd shut your noise. The bloke is at sunderland...not utd. Its hardly surprising our cast offs are going to be good enough for his side.
Keano is what 37?? He's much to learn and im sure given time he'll mellow further ala fergie. Not that easy no, not unless your 1st job is a chelsea. Whats your point then.....
p.s. The general attack seems pretty spot on to me if thats what he said (which no one knows!). It was shown to the squad and there were no problems, smith said as much after his man of the match performance against chelsea.
We must come up with a name for this common caf syndrome of railing against a perceived majority (or large minority) of teh rest of the caf that doesn't actually exist.I fail to understand the number of people looking to jump on keane's back.
coulda fooled me mate.We must come up with a name for this common caf syndrome of railing against a perceived majority (or large minority) of teh rest of the caf that doesn't actually exist.
One guy suggests that in his opinion Keane may have fuond some aspects of being a coach trickier than he expected and suddenly everybody's jumping on Keane's back? I reckon 99% of people on here think he's done a great job at Sunderland and are impressed with his progress as a coach so far.
Still fairly possible, but they're making a good fight of it and I don't think Kean is largely blamed by most people. Keeping a newly promoted team up is tricky, especially one taht was as bad as Sunderland were last time they were int he Premiership.sunderland going down
Well he has, but again I don't see it as a criticism. As somebody said, a 75% United player is better than most others you could lure to Sunderland. The Irish bit may be a bit trickier to justify, but heh!sunderland buying cast offs, keane only buying irish or utd etc etc etc.
Says who? You? And just what authority do you have have to be so certain?Jog on you mugs, keano simply aired what we all thought at the time....as per usual. The only problem this time was that keano had passed the peak of his powers so was disposable.
Make no mistake had he said the same at his peak it would have died very quickly.
The fact you're attempting to debate with me on this tells me you are utterly clueless.Jog on you mugs, keano simply aired what we all thought at the time....as per usual. The only problem this time was that keano had passed the peak of his powers so was disposable.
Make no mistake had he said the same at his peak it would have died very quickly.[/QUOTE]
Says who? You? And just what authority do you have have to be so certain?
Just total total bollox.
Of course I must be.The fact you're attempting to debate with me on this tells me you are utterly clueless.
Oh how I must bow to your superior fecking insight.
Fool.
Learn to quote properly lad.Of course I must be.
Oh how I must bow to your superior fecking insight.
Fool.
Does anyone seriously doubt keane wouldnt have got away with whatever he said had he been at the peak of his powers?? speak up ya'll. If not ill comfort myself in the confirmation that there is only one looney around at the moment.
Veron's only decent games for us was in the CL, but that's not saying much.
Well, he had this nice pass vs Deportivo...Not against any of the good teams though..
He did have a good start to his United career which made us all waiting for more, and it never came.Was he no good in league matches like Everton, Newcastle and Spurs tha won him Player of the Month for September '01 then?
I agree with that, it's the same as Fergie squashing all the bad blood between Rooney and Ronaldo after the world cup. Because they are instrumental to the future, and future success of United.The fact you're attempting to debate with me on this tells me you are utterly clueless.
When Keane was at his best, anything he said would have been sorted out and he wouldn't have been forced out the club.
Its obvious. Im glad others see it.I agree with that, it's the same as Fergie squashing all the bad blood between Rooney and Ronaldo after the world cup. Because they are instrumental to the future, and future success of United.
When Keane was at his best, anything he said would have been sorted out and he wouldn't have been forced out the club.
Cantona got away with assaulting a fan for godsake!!!
Do we believe that had cantona not done that (i.e. no precedent) and say richardson had done that in one of his few games in the side last season the guy wouldnt have been released quicker than drogba goes down??
You're only as valuable as your playing ability.
Yeah true, but football is cyclical and we were a side going through a stage of transition, which I'm surprised he couldn't really get his head round.Id agree to some degree... but i think that came out of the fustration of being in utd sides that werent living up to the past sides and he could see that.
He knowsStill think arsenal have a long long way to go...and chelsea are a frightful danger.....