City target Dos Santos

[GlastonSpur]

I don't think you are even close to signing Veloso or Dos Santos.

I agree with you about Veloso, but I'm not so sure about dos Santos.

From various reports it seems that Spurs officials have been talking to Barca about someone, but Gus Poyet has publicly said Spurs are not interested in Eto'o and it's not likely to be Ronaldhino (neither of those players would be likely to sign for Spurs in any case), so dos Santos could be the most plausible target.

And dos Santos could well be interested. He'd get to play in the Prem, work with a well-respected Spanish-speaking manager and have a lot more chances to play regularly than he would at Barca. Not a bad prospect for such a young player why apparently has had a difficult time at Barca and now faces the uncertainties surrounding a new incoming manager.

On the other hand, dos Santos could go to Chelsea, especially if Rijkaard becomes the manager there. We shall see.

 

[GAngel]

I agree with you about Veloso, but I'm not so sure about dos Santos.

From various reports it seems that Spurs officials have been talking to Barca about someone, but Gus Poyet has publicly said Spurs are not interested in Eto'o and it's not likely to be Ronaldhino (neither of those players would be likely to sign for Spurs in any case), so dos Santos could be the most plausible target.

And dos Santos could well be interested. He'd get to play in the Prem, work with a well-respected Spanish-speaking manager and have a lot more chances to play regularly than he would at Barca. Not a bad prospect for such a young player why apparently has had a difficult time at Barca and now faces the uncertainties surrounding a new incoming manager.

On the other hand, dos Santos could go to Chelsea, especially if Rijkaard becomes the manager there. We shall see.

He's come out and stated in many spanish interviews that the only way he's leaving barca is if they want to sell him.

 

[Raven Blade]

He looks like a little Ronaldinho. I would prefer if he stayed at Barcelona rather than joining our rivals in the Premier League.

 

[GlastonSpur]

He's come out and stated in many spanish interviews that the only way he's leaving barca is if they want to sell him.

He's also said he'll leave if they insist on trying to loan him out:

Giovani Dos Santos has told Barcelona that if he leaves the club then it will be on a permanent basis, after rumours circulated that they have suggested a loan deal.

The Mexican youngster has refused to even discuss the possibility of spending a year gaining experience elsewhere and insisted that if the Blaugrana want him out, then it will be for good.

Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City have all been linked with the services of Dos Santos, with his agent doing his best to persuade Barca that the high level of interest should mean more money for his client.

If the Catalan outfit refuse to budge and insist that they want the player to play regularly at another club and then return to Camp Nou, Dos Santos will seek a permanent move.

"If I leave, it will be forever," Dos Santos told reporters. "I am someone who believes that if you close a chapter at one place then you cannot go back.

"All I want to do is succeed, whether that be at Barca or at another club."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_3588053,00.html

But all in all I agree: the most likely outcome is that he'll stay at Barca.

 

[REd FUn DevIl]

We should grab him before they do...He would be excellent cover for Nani and Ronaldo long term...

He is not that good. Common he doesnt even play too often and that says it all.

I think we are pretty fine with our wingers and i wouldn't bench Park to put this kid.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

He is not that good. Common he doesnt even play too often and that says it all..

Actually it doesn't. This guy played with our Anderson in under 21 level and was infact a bit better. So he is actually good. Talent wise.

I think we are pretty fine with our wingers and i wouldn't bench Park to put this kid.

Who mentioned him playing ahead of Park? We need 4 wingers for a season. & Giggs, sir, is no longer a winger. We shouldn't go into a season a winger down. This kid is 19, with bags of potential and wont complain with rotation. That's a perfect fit for me. I wouldn't mind seeing him and Park manning our wings against sides like Stoke city

 

[FranklyVulgar]

Dos Santos is undoubtabley a hugely tallented kid. He hasn't made the impact at Barca he or the club were expecting and didn't notch his first goal until the last game of the season in which he scored a marvelous hattrick.

Looking at Barca this season they underperformed and to judge a kid on that is a bit harsh. People are raving about Bojan but thats because he is a striker and scored goals and is still so very young but tallent wise i wouldn't say he is better than Dos Santos.

I wouldn't say Bojan was at the same level yet as say Pato, i think Pato will be the outstanding striker.

Saying that Bojan is 17 so he can do so much.

 

[Raven Blade]

After watching a video of him ive just realised that he is left footed. How silly of me to miss that fact. Talented left footed attacking players are in demand so we should keep an eye on him. Imagine a future with Ronaldo, Nani, Park and Dos Santos on the wings. It could be something special.

 

[GlastonSpur]

SSN are now reporting that Spurs are close to signing dos Santos !!!

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

 

[Don16]

Spurs have him

 

[ALX8725]

SSN are now reporting that Spurs are close to signing dos Santos !!!

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

this will be interesting

 

[Raven Blade]

Oh no. Not to Spurs. They really want that top 4 spot next season. Talented young players like Giovani Dos Santos will help.

 

[Sarni]

I agree with you about Veloso, but I'm not so sure about dos Santos.

From various reports it seems that Spurs officials have been talking to Barca about someone, but Gus Poyet has publicly said Spurs are not interested in Eto'o and it's not likely to be Ronaldhino (neither of those players would be likely to sign for Spurs in any case), so dos Santos could be the most plausible target.

And dos Santos could well be interested. He'd get to play in the Prem, work with a well-respected Spanish-speaking manager and have a lot more chances to play regularly than he would at Barca. Not a bad prospect for such a young player why apparently has had a difficult time at Barca and now faces the uncertainties surrounding a new incoming manager.

On the other hand, dos Santos could go to Chelsea, especially if Rijkaard becomes the manager there. We shall see.

Yaya Toure perhaps?

 

[GlastonSpur]

Yaya Toure perhaps?

Not sure he'd fancy joining the local rival of his brother's team.

But in any case we're holding out for Veloso

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Dos santos will be a fantastic signing for Spurs.

 

[Sam]

Good news for Spurs, I really look forward to seeing him in action next season.

Btw, anyone reckon they can challange Liverpool for 4th next season?

 

[Scholesy]

Hell be a flop, Bojan is miles better.

 

[sonymobby]

So, is it official?

 

[devilish]

Dos Santos is a much better player then Park

Actually Park is the weakest winger we have.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Dos Santos is not yet better than Park. That is pretty clear Devlish. He has some distance to go. All he is far more talented

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Hell be a flop .

Highly unlikely.

Bojan is miles better.

For now only.

 

[Decotron]

Dos Santos is a much better player then Park

Actually Park is the weakest winger we have.

I agree with your 1st point but saying park is our weakest player is harsh on a player who played so well in the semi finals. Like to think we havent got any weak players just squad players capable of playing between 10-15 games and being happy with that. it breeds a great team spirit when theres no one just in it for themselves and complaining like bitches (see anelka)

 

[devilish]

I agree with your 1st point but saying park is our weakest player is harsh on a player who played so well in the semi finals. Like to think we havent got any weak players just squad players capable of playing between 10-15 games and being happy with that. it breeds a great team spirit when theres no one just in it for themselves and complaining like bitches (see anelka)

He is nowhere near Ronaldo
He is nowhere near Nani (who is yet raw but he is still better then him)
He is nowhere near Giggs.

Im not saying that Park isnt useful (altough he is frustrating at times since he is physically weak) but he is the weakest of our wingers.

 

[devilish]

Dos Santos is not yet better than Park. That is pretty clear Devlish. He has some distance to go. All he is far more talented

Thats your opinion. Dos Santos has more skill and he is much more dangerous. Park on the other hand has more hardworking and a bit more experienced.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Thats your opinion.

No it isn't. It's a statement of fact. Park is currently the better player. He is more effective and more mature. In the future though Dos santos will obviously surpass him. But to claim he is better now is wrong.

Dos Santos has more skill and he is much more dangerous.

Rather what he has is more natural talent. Not skill. He is still very raw. Park on form brings more to the table than him. He has better decision making, crosses and links play better. Plus is superior defensively. This season people didnt see the best of Park after his return from that long term injury. Even thoguh he perofmed admirably agint Barcelona and the like. But pre injury and when on form, Do santos as he is now isn't close to Park at all.

He has Park on the other hand has more hardworking and a bit more experienced

He is far more experienced.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

.............
He is nowhere near Giggs.

.......

Park right now is a far better winger than a 34 year old Giggs. Because Giggs really isn't a winger any more. We are just forcing things when we play him wide.

 

[devilish]

No it isn't. It's a statement of fact. Park is currently the better player. He is more effective and more mature. In the future though Dos santos will obviously surpass him. But to claim he is better now is wrong.

Your opinion is always a statement of fact

Rather what he has is more natural talent. Not skill. He is still very raw. Park on form brings more to the table than him. He has better decision making, crosses and links play better. Plus is superior defensively. This season people didnt see the best of Park after his return from that long term injury. Even thoguh he perofmed admirably agint Barcelona and the like. But pre injury and when on form, Do santos as he is now isn't close to Park at all.

He is still raw but if I had to choose between bringing him AND bringing Park I would choose Dos Santos. The boy has the basics to become a better player then Park had ever been.

He is far more experienced.

On that you're right

 

[devilish]

Park right now is a far better winger than a 34 year old Giggs. Because Giggs really isn't a winger any more. We are just forcing things when we play him wide.

Giggs had been leading the flank for decades, ffs give him another few months before writing him off.

 

[SittingBull]

He looks like a little Ronaldinho. I would prefer if he stayed at Barcelona rather than joining our rivals in the Premier League.

That is precisely why i want him to join Spurs.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Giggs had been leading the flank for decades, ffs give him another few months before writing him off.

Get real. I haven't written him off as a player. I've just stated what is obvious to the naked eye. He is not a winger any more. At 34 He clearly struggles out wide more often than not. It isn't a coincidence that his most impressive performances over the last 3 months have all come with him in a more central role. People should start getting used to the idea that his best role on the pitch has finally changed.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Your opinion is always a statement of fact

Oh please! Stop being a bloody hypocrite. You were the same person telling me how Brown is a better than Pique because of his experience not long ago. Now it's a crime when I say it about Park?

First of all you don't even have a clue about my opinion on Dos Santos to come up with such a ludicrous statement. I rate him as highly as I rate Anderson. In fact I rate him so highly that in my book he would start ahead of both Nani and Park if I was in charge of United. If he was our player. But I'm not about to pretend it's valid to say he is better than Park or Nani as a player. When he most certainly isn't.

He is still raw but if I had to choose between bringing him AND bringing Park I would choose Dos Santos. The boy has the basics to become a better player then Park had ever been.

That's not the point is it? You are claiming he is better than Park right now. Which he most certainly isn't. Yet you trying to pawn off your opinion as fact and getting aggressive when some one points it out that you are wrong.. Potential and being better are not remotely related. Dos santos has the potential to be become a Ronaldinho. But as of now he is still very raw. Way more talented than Park. But not better.

On that you're right

Finally. You agree to something I have said that is clear without claiming it's merely my opinion.

 

[devilish]

Oh please. Stop being a bloody hypocrite. You were the same person telling me how Brown is better than Pique because of his experience. Now it's crime when I say it about Park?

First of all you don't even have a clue about my opinion on Dos Santos to come up with such a ludicrous statement. I rate him as highly as I rate Anderson. Infact rate him so high that in my book he would start ahead of both Nani and Park if I was in charge of United. But I'm not about to pretend it's valid to say he is better than Park or Nani as a player. When he most certainly isn't.

That's not the point is it? You are claiming he is better than Park right now. Which he most certainly isn't. Yet you trying to pawn off your opinion as fact and getting aggressive when some one points it out that you are wrong.. Potential and being better are not remotely related. Dos santos has the potential to be become a Ronaldinho. But as of now he is still very raw.


Finally. You agree something that is clear without claiming it's merely my opinion.

No Brown is better then Pique simply because Brown is a better defender then Pique. He is faster, more experienced, a better tackler, a better leader, he has better positioning erm he is a better defender. There again we are not talking here about the defense where experience is crucial. We are talking about the flanks where technique, dribbling and pace are much more important.

Dos Santos may not have the experience and workrate of Park but apart from that he is better then him. He is faster, more technically gifted and more dangerous in the box. Those are the criteria on which a winger is judged on. In my opinion Id rather have a raw version of Ronaldinho (thats how you have called him) who can develop and become a world class winger rather then a useful but above average winger who have little chance of ever winning a first team place.

And how can you play Dos Santos ahead of Park and Nani if he (in your opinion) is not better then Park?

PS you only agree with those who agree with you.

 

[JCurr]

Looks like Glaston isn't full of shite after all...

Gio set to earn his Spurs
Tottenham lead the race for Barca youngster

Sky Sports News understands that Tottenham have emerged as the favourites to sign Giovani dos Santos.



The 19-year-old Mexican is currently on the books of Spanish giants Barcelona and is widely regarded as one of the hottest properties in European football.


He has been forced to wait his turn at Camp Nou, but has been tipped for the top since bursting onto the scene at the U17 World Cup back in 2005.


The Catalan club had hoped to see the youngster become the natural heir to Ronaldinho's crown, though he is yet to dominate the senior game in the same manner as he did at youth level.


Dos Santos made 28 Primera Division appearances for Barca last season, and scored a hat-trick in the last day of the season during a 5-3 victory at Murcia.


He has five full caps for Mexico despite qualifying to play for Brazil through his father, himself a former footballer, Zizinho.


His failure to hold down a regular first-team spot under Frank Rijkaard during the 2007/08 season alerted the attention of a host of Europe's top clubs, with Manchester City early contenders for his signature.


However, should the prodigiously talented teenager decide to leave Spain this summer it would appear that White Hart Lane is now is most likely destination, with Spurs expected to shell out around £11million in order to get their man.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3618785,00.html

Have to say. Would be quite the snide signing for Spurs. Berbatov will certainly be off. But if they find a decent option to replace him, a decent DM, a keeper and some depth in the back, Tottenham could be on the up and up. Modric and Dos Santos are two impressive, promising players to add in one summer for any club.

 

[Elliott]

If he's the second coming, how come the big clubs in England and Italy aren't in for him?

 

[devilish]

If he's the second coming, how come the big clubs in England and Italy aren't in for him?

He is not the second coming. He is just a good winger with great potential.

 

[Elliott]

Fair enough, dev. Great potential, my question remains..

 

[devilish]

Fair enough, dev. Great potential, my question remains..

From what Ive heard from Barca fans, the reason why Dos Santos want to leave is that he doesnt want to remain a reserve. If that's the case then his transfer to Spurs is justified since neither Manchester United nor Chelsea can guarantee him a first team place.

 

[Elliott]

He's one of these lads who doesn't want to go out on loan then?

 

[GlastonSpur]

... his transfer to Spurs is justified ...

I'm still cautious about these reports and would say "his transfer to Spurs would be justified" if it actually happens.

It's encouraging that several different media sources are all saying it's close or he's on his way, but they often just copy the story from each other and so far there has been no direct quotes from the player, his agent or anyone at Barca.

There's many a slip twixt cup and post ...

 

[FranklyVulgar]

If it's true i can really see spurs being a decent outfit. As long as their signings from overseas settle to the prem quickly they will be a very attractive team next season.