Kaush949
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This is how good he can be
Give the lad a chance
Give the lad a chance
Is there any need to take a dig at Park in a thread about Nani?exactly, can you see bloody park ever do that? No!
Just start turning that into something that can change games again!
Passing, off the ball movement and one and two touch interplay.Its safe to say that apart from the workrate and attitude Nani, is better then Park in everything. Fair play to Park though,he deserves to play week in week out because he is currently our best left flank man.
Yeah, his first touch is exquisite.Last season his first touch was unreal, i mean truly in the top 5 or at least top 10 of the world and i am not exaggerating, he can bring down a ball from any distance in the most difficult positions with absolute grace. Very rarely ddid he require a second touch to control a long ball. But this season he has temporarily lost that ability which can be due to form and confidence.
True, he can be quite skillful. But one could easily make a compilation video showing just how bad he can be. Misplaced passes, dribbling into nowhere, not seeing the obvious pass to a teammate in a threatening position...etc. Someone mentioned how exquisite his first touch can be - this season we've seen just how poor his 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd and 23rd can be, and how the 24th is usually by a player wearing a different color shirt. His inconsistency can be excused to some degree because he is young, and hopefully he'll still come good. But he's not there yet, not at all. This is why Ferguson hasn't let him play 90 minutes in a league game all season.This is how good he can be...
Played half the games Park has played and still scored more goals than him.True, he can be quite skillful. But one could easily make a compilation video showing just how bad he can be. Misplaced passes, dribbling into nowhere, not seeing the obvious pass to a teammate in a threatening position...etc. Someone mentioned how exquisite his first touch can be - this season we've seen just how poor his 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd and 23rd can be, and how the 24th is usually by a player wearing a different color shirt. His inconsistency can be excused to some degree because he is young, and hopefully he'll still come good. But he's not there yet, not at all. This is why Ferguson hasn't let him play 90 minutes in a league game all season.
In the league, Park's consistency, hustle, and not giving up possession so cheaply are strongly preferred.
Over the last few years, O'Shea has played fewer games than Evra, but still managed to score a few more goals - obviously he is the superior LB. And Peter Crouch has scored twice as many goals as Rooney this season - perhaps a swap deal can be arranged during the January transfer window. Yeah, right.Played half the games Park has played and still scored more goals than him.
Park's more cosistent, that's true. He fights, runs and has a great stamina.
But his crossing, shooting, his pace, his skills and his strenght are too weak to ever become a worldclass winger, what Nani certainly can, if he gets to start more games, on a regular basis.
A fullback's job is to defend, a winger is supposed to attackOver the last few years, O'Shea has played fewer games than Evra, but still managed to score a few more goals - obviously he is the superior LB. And Peter Crouch has scored twice as many goals as Rooney this season - perhaps a swap deal can be arranged during the January transfer window. Yeah, right.
The bottom line with Nani is that he fecks up to much when playing difficult opposition, and you just can't have that in tight games for a team that expects to win as much as we do. He has been a weak link out there at times, and that's why he gets trotted out in the FA & Carling Cups, and against weaker opposition in the CL, and its dead rubber games. There his mistakes aren't as costly, since the opposition is less likely to capitalize on them.
Roll your eyes at someone else, you have missed the mark with nearly every assertion you made in that post. Park does attack, he just doesn't score much this season, although two seasons ago he did. And the Caf doesn't collectively cream itself every time Evra takes the pitch because he's so good at defending. It's cock out time because he's so damned good going forward, so I think it's a fair comparison. In each case one player is clearly better than the other at this point in time, despite producing fewer goals.A fullback's job is to defend, a winger is supposed to attack
It's a fact that in those 'big' matches, Park has done more defensive work than offensive, as a matter of fact I would even go so far as to say he's like our little Kuyt, except even Kuyt has had some good form and is scoring more goals. The reason Fergie has utilized Park over Nani this season is other than the fact that Nani's form has been poor, he has also been using Rafael more often and is using Park to help cover for his defensive frailties. When Wes Brown comes back I'm quite certain we will see Nani much more often.
That's so gayHe has fantastic thighs.
Stopped reading there, because it just isntRoll your eyes at someone else, you have missed the mark with nearly every assertion you made in that post. Park does attack, he just doesn't score much this season, although two seasons ago he did. And the Caf doesn't collectively cream itself every time Evra takes the pitch because he's so good at defending. It's cock out time because he's so damned good going forward, so I think it's a fair comparison. In each case one player is clearly better than the other at this point in time, despite producing fewer goals.
It's a fact that Park played 11 of 12 games in the run-in last season ,at a time when little Rafael was still sitting in the stand in street clothes, and Wesley Brown was one of the first on the team sheet every week. So the return of Brown will not necessarily bring Nani back into the team, especially since Nani has not progressed since last season - most of us think he has actually regressed, whereas a finally healthy Park has looked even more solid. Doubt me? Consider also the fact that in the few games Wesley has played this season, Nani hasn't started a single one. So I'm quite certain you're talking out of your hind parts.
And Kuyt scores more goals than Park. That's nice. But not unexpected since when they bought him, he was a a standout striker in the Dutch league. They might both go on the team sheet as "wingers", but their games aren't the same. And "even Kuyt is having good form" is crap in two ways: one, it implies Park isn't having good form, which is not factually correct, and two, like it or not, Kuyt has become a pretty good player, and has looked pretty damned good ever since Euro 2008 this summer. He's still ugly, and we've enjoyed laughing at him the previous two years, but he's a good footballer. As is Park. I'm not surprised you haven't noticed it in Kuyt's case, but it mystifies me how many United supporters continue to overlook it in Park's. I'll say it one more time, try to wrap your pointy little head around it: Park is a very good football player. Why else do you think Sir Alex Ferguson continually puts him on the pitch in big matches? Hint: He wants to win those matches.
It is, though.Stopped reading there, because it just isnt
Roll your eyes at someone else, you have missed the mark with nearly every assertion you made in that post. Park does attack, he just doesn't score much this season, although two seasons ago he did. And the Caf doesn't collectively cream itself every time Evra takes the pitch because he's so good at defending. It's cock out time because he's so damned good going forward, so I think it's a fair comparison. In each case one player is clearly better than the other at this point in time, despite producing fewer goals.
It's a fact that Park played 11 of 12 games in the run-in last season ,at a time when little Rafael was still sitting in the stand in street clothes, and Wesley Brown was one of the first on the team sheet every week. So the return of Brown will not necessarily bring Nani back into the team, especially since Nani has not progressed since last season - most of us think he has actually regressed, whereas a finally healthy Park has looked even more solid. Doubt me? Consider also the fact that in the few games Wesley has played this season, Nani hasn't started a single one. So I'm quite certain you're talking out of your hind parts.
And Kuyt scores more goals than Park. That's nice. But not unexpected since when they bought him, he was a a standout striker in the Dutch league. They might both go on the team sheet as "wingers", but their games aren't the same. And "even Kuyt is having good form" is crap in two ways: one, it implies Park isn't having good form, which is not factually correct, and two, like it or not, Kuyt has become a pretty good player, and has looked pretty damned good ever since Euro 2008 this summer. He's still ugly, and we've enjoyed laughing at him the previous two years, but he's a good footballer. As is Park. I'm not surprised you haven't noticed it in Kuyt's case, but it mystifies me how many United supporters continue to overlook it in Park's. I'll say it one more time, try to wrap your pointy little head around it: Park is a very good football player. Why else do you think Sir Alex Ferguson continually puts him on the pitch in big matches? Hint: He wants to win those matches.
Not even closeIt is, though.
Except that it is. He is better in ways that do not show up in goal statistics. This is not a very difficult, or even a very controversial statement.Not even close
Well that's true, but not as far as effectivness is concerned and that's what we need at the moment.Except that it is. He is better in ways that do not show up in goal statistics. This is not a very difficult, or even a very controversial statement.
Of course, because the amount of faith that United fans on the Caf have for him is directly related to how well he performs.No wonder nanis been shit this season no ones got any faith in him hes getting critisism...
100%ly agreedNo wonder nanis been shit this season no ones got any faith in him hes getting critisism and is barely playing at all.
If he started the next five games hed probably frustrate for the first few games, but after that hed start to improve big time and we would see him reach a new level.
Its no good playing one game in like a month, him not playing well and then ditching him for another month. hes never gonna progress at that rate.
The lad needs games.IMO.