Behave, I am not a fanboi as you put it.And you aint so bad either for a Rooney fanboi
I was a big fan of Ronaldo if it must be known... still am
Rooney's returned
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I was a big fan of Ronaldo if it must be known... still am
Im only messing fella, Night caf.
No, I'm not. I'm saying people going to games and calling Rooney a cnut while he is playing for Manchester United are morons, irrespective of whether they are going specifically to do that. I'd be amazed if anyone actually did go specifically to do that.
True enough, I don't think anyone's calling people morons for not 'jumping back on the Rooney bandwagon' though. Personally I've stuck to the view that he's not done anything requiring an apology throughout this saga, but I accept that most people disagree with that, I don't think anyone's calling you a moron for holding the position that you think Rooney's done wrong.
No, but then I don't think it's good to chant murderers, yet I somehow restrained myself from turning round and telling everyone what children they were.
I do see your point, I really do, and if people keep doing it then it's very sad but you were making these threads after wigan and calling everyone morons, it's a little bit sanctimonious IMO. You knew exactly why they did it, it wasn't out of the blue or unexpected. It also wasn't that bad in the scheme of things. I think your being a bit over the top myself, I've seen our fans do far worse things.
I also really don't care who gets called a cnut. It's part and parcel of football. It's a great word too.
Boo hoo, Rooney got booed.. feck him he deserves it, its good to just get our unhappiness out in the open, voice our resentment.. he works hard to win back our affections, team does well as a result and he's possibly liked again.
Everyones a winner.. no need to start slaggin off fans for booing a cnut like Wayne, they well within their rights to do so. He needs to start earning the respect of the fans, we don't owe him anything yet.
Everyones a winner.. no need to start slaggin off fans for booing a cnut like Wayne, they well within their rights to do so. He needs to start earning the respect of the fans, we don't owe him anything yet.
Actually, he's a member.
Agreed. I wouldn't boo him personally because I'd never boo a United player, but I certainly won't slag off fans who are doing it and I'll certainly keep voicing my negative opinion on him on the Caf. It's not like he's going to read it and even if he does, I'm sure he'll survive it.
If some of you are to belived, I'm ruining Wayne's career with my postings. Get a perspective, FFS.
mate,I haven't read your postings but in answer to your last one; I really think you're the one who needs some perspectiveAgreed. I wouldn't boo him personally because I'd never boo a United player, but I certainly won't slag off fans who are doing it and I'll certainly keep voicing my negative opinion on him on the Caf. It's not like he's going to read it and even if he does, I'm sure he'll survive it.
If some of you are to belived, I'm ruining Wayne's career with my postings. Get a perspective, FFS.
can't be arsed with the obvious details
edit: i have since, looked at some previous posts and in mitigation I can see/understand some being a bit pissed off but really, can we move on? I don't think a full bloodied return to Rooney worship will/should happpen but some of this is a bit silly
I can't even be bothered (with the negativity) with the whys and wherefores but both Keane's and Rio's sagas seemed worse to me. They certainly dragged on longer and this in comparison seemed a storm in a teacup
Being 'self-centred' you probably wouldn't!
Consider - are you annoyed at Rooney for yourself or 'on the club's behalf' - only the latter is not putting yourself first (on some constructions).
Yet 'the club itself' has accepted the situation, the central club personnel have received such apologies as they feel they need, and moved on. If a 'fan' cannot move on like them then this is once more more likely to do with some sense of personal betrayal than anything on behalf of those more centrally involved.
Next, consider what actually insulted the club or central figures therein... Iirc only 2 statements were involved:
1 concerning Rooney being fully fit when SAF said he was affected by some injury.
2 concerning a worry about a perceived lack of ambition or commitment to maintaining and improving standards (eg in squad recruitment).
Both of these came (iirc) from the equivalent of a spokesperson for the Rooney camp, rather than being directly attributed to him - the first time he was 'quoted directly' was when he was said to contact his agent to get everything sorted out.
Number 1 has always puzzled me - it was a potential excuse for his poor form that he is brushing aside and leaving himself more exposed to criticism. It smacked of interested parties wanting to instigate a divide between Rooney & SAF to me - this seemed confirmed somewhat when number 2 arrived - just the osrt of thing you might feel that an agent wanting to generate more income might mention to an unhappy (form) 'star' to help unsettle him. Likewise the 'not talking about the contract' until that issue was resolved - isolate the individual.
My feelings were, accordingly, that this was agent-driven and agent-expressed. Ultimately Rooney felt it had gone too far and got it sorted. We might greatly wish that Stretford got the boot as the best conclusion but he hasn't sorted it to that extent (yet?).
I can't believe Rooney hasn't apologized to me specifically for the pay structure that has developed in the modern game over the last 20 years. Or for the fact that he doesn't blindly trust his future to a family of American bankers who've ruined absolutely every business venture they've taken on in the last 15 years...
It's almost as if I'm not the most important person in the World in Wayne Rooney's reality
It's almost as if he cares more about his own well being and way of life than he cares about mine
I feel so cheated, I really thought we, you know, 'had something'.
I'll have the last laugh though - I'm gonna sit in my room and call him rude names on an internet messageboard - See how he likes that
I think the point is, that whilst this stuff goes on between star players and managers, it's usually kept very private. Someone with an agenda decided to make it all public.
Of course, this indicates that probably the only 'wrong' was the broadcasting of the concerns. Concerns which many fans have shared - publically.
if anybody made it public, it was the club
the player merely didn't toe the pravda party line (albeit wrongly)
it's all just a load of meh
the player merely didn't toe the pravda party line (albeit wrongly)
it's all just a load of meh
So all these people that have said "Rooney's a wanker blah blah blah he didn't apologise blah blah blah".
Does this mean you'll shut up now he's apologised?
Does this mean you'll shut up now he's apologised?
Don't agree with the first bit of that post.
When the story broke about Rooney refusing to sign a contract it was definitely driven by Rooney's "camp". That's the most annoying aspect of the whole thing IMO. I'm coming round to the idea that his concerns about where the club is going might be genuine but I resent the fact he couldn't seek the reassurances he needed without playing this all out in public.
It was an incredibly ill-judged decision IMO. More down to the agent than the player but Rooney has to share the blame. Not worth booing him over or calling him a cnut but disappointing all the same.
Nope - he's still a wanker, just marginally less so now.
But he is our wanker so I would never boo him etc.
I've had better apologies from women but it's better than nothing, at least he recognises that he behaved badly.
That's fair.
He's a wanker, but he's our wanker.
I still think it was a mistake the club telling the public he requested a move, though.
If they hadn't I seriously doubt he would have been under any pressure to sign the contract, we played it perfectly.
Agreed, I think Fergie realised that Rooney's agent had brainwashed him and probably thought the only way to get him to see sense was publicly calling him out - worked a treat!
I'm annoyed at both, if I'm honest. I do feel some sense of personal betrayal. Not just to myself, but to all of the fans. We're the ones who keep him in a job, without fans he'd be earning £5.90 an hour but yet he chose to apologised to us almost a month later and half heartedly. We chanted his name, his camp released all this bullshit and it got into the public eye. Love you too, Wayne.Being 'self-centred' you probably wouldn't!
Consider - are you annoyed at Rooney for yourself or 'on the club's behalf' - only the latter is not putting yourself first (on some constructions).
Yet 'the club itself' has accepted the situation, the central club personnel have received such apologies as they feel they need, and moved on. If a 'fan' cannot move on like them then this is once more more likely to do with some sense of personal betrayal than anything on behalf of those more centrally involved.
And the club may have "accepted" the situation and what's happened and are trying to move on but I can bet you that the club isn't happy about the whole thing and how it panned out. They have to move on and forgive him, same as the players. They see him and play with him everyday and for the benefit of the club they need to have smoothed things over as best possible otherwise we will suffer on the pitch - which is what we all care about more than anything else. Put it like this, is someone insulted your mother and she forgave them right away, would you? I wouldn't - I'd hold a grudge until they made it up properly by scoring a shed load of goals for my mothers football team.
Exactly
Would you trust a private assurance from David Gill?
I dunno. It's not as thought Gill has given any public assurances since.
"Everyone is saying that I was definitely going to Manchester City. Believe me if I had gone it wouldn't have been in England," said Rooney
He might be lying but that's good to hear. Would have hated it if he played for any PL rivals.
He might be lying but that's good to hear. Would have hated it if he played for any PL rivals.
He would have gone to Madrid
Must be a masochist if he had actually thought about joining them.
To be fair though Id have thought he might have learnt from the last scouser who could barely speak english to play abroad....Ian Rush who said it was like "living ni another country...!"
I agree with this 100%.Showing any kind (logical or illogical) of hatred towards Rooney by some fans on the internet will have zero impact on Rooney.So if some people wanna to blow off some steam by insulting or criticizing Rooney, I don't see it as a big problem.With enough time things will settle downAgreed. I wouldn't boo him personally because I'd never boo a United player, but I certainly won't slag off fans who are doing it and I'll certainly keep voicing my negative opinion on him on the Caf. It's not like he's going to read it and even if he does, I'm sure he'll survive it.
If some of you are to belived, I'm ruining Wayne's career with my postings. Get a perspective, FFS.
So he preferred to trust a private assurance from Glazer did he....ah well!
From in front of your TV in Germany you mean?Agreed. I wouldn't boo him personally because I'd never boo a United player, but I certainly won't slag off fans who are doing it and I'll certainly keep voicing my negative opinion on him on the Caf. It's not like he's going to read it and even if he does, I'm sure he'll survive it.
If some of you are to belived, I'm ruining Wayne's career with my postings. Get a perspective, FFS.
Congratulations, you are a very smart and intelligent lad. There's a reason why I used conditional instead of future.
After what you said about Wayne in the contract thread I honestly can't believe this is the same poster
I will admit to being fanboi of only one player....ever.
Georgie Best.
Georgie Best.
My anger in the contract thread was about him refusing to sign a new contract, with a view to running it down before seeking a cut-price move to another club.After what you said about Wayne in the contract thread I honestly can't believe this is the same poster
It may have escaped your notice but he recently signed a long-term contract with Manchester United.
it hasn't escaped my notice mate, I just don't know how someone who posted this:
...is going around undermining and taking the piss out of every fan who thinks Rooney is a cnut in so many threads. It reeks of the type of shit flies don't even feck with.
I'm just not buying it
I know you're not the sharpest tool in the box but couldn't you at least try to make an effort to understand why I might have a different opinion on Rooney after it became apparent that he actually wasn't trying to force a move after all?
You know, after he signed that new long-term contract?
like I said I'm not buying it
new contract or not, nobody does a U-turn that dramatic, changing an opinion is one thing but taking the piss out of fellow United fans who think he's a cnut to feel superior has to be taking the piss
everytime you undermine a United fan over Rooney I just think of that quote and cringe
Yeah but you're an idiot, to be fair.