Cardiff City 1:5 Manchester United

jymufc20 · Dec 21, 2018

joedirt87 said:
Didn't Lingard make his first team debut under Moyes in Preseason? and then it wasn't until van Gaal that he made his prem debut IIRC.

He played under SAF in preseason although it might of been when Mike Phelan took charge when fergie was sorting the Van Persie deal out.

mitchmouse · Dec 21, 2018

BT Sport must think all their Christmases have come at once: OK lots would be watching anyway but they are now guaranteed huge audience for the game... no doubt the commentary and punditry will be pretty much as shite as usual though (do you ttink they've asked Jose along?!!!)

sglowrider · Dec 21, 2018

I think there will be hiccups in his first few matches to implement his philosophy. Ole will be criticised and be accused of being naive in terms of defending.

But I can see it being a better balance by late Jan. I remember the transition between LVG and Jose and the initial hesitation of how we used to attack or how fast we went forward.

Minimalist · Dec 21, 2018

sglowrider said:
I think there will be hiccups in his first few matches to implement his philosophy. Ole will be criticised and be accused of being naive in terms of defending.

But I can see it being a better balance by late Jan. I remember the transition between LVG and Jose and the initial hesitation of how we used to attack or how fast we went forward.

If that's the criticism...

Revaulx · Dec 21, 2018

bosnian_red said:
3 very decent years where hes had to do an almost impossible job of running an entire flank under failed managers. Yeah hes old now and past his best, but the alternative is Dalot who isnt ready to start regularly, or young who might get the nod (though might have to play left back if Shaw is out anyway)

I’d have Young there rather than Valencia, as he’s less past-it and more of a leader and uniting force. But the amount of abuse Tony gets on here is ridiculous.

Smores · Dec 21, 2018

Revaulx said:
I’d have Young there rather than Valencia, as he’s less past-it and more of a leader and uniting force. But the amount of abuse Tony gets on here is ridiculous.

By abuse i suppose you mean criticism? Hardly seen anyone insult Antonio

jymufc20 · Dec 21, 2018

I haven't been this excited about a game since Fergie was in charge, tomorrow can't come quick enough.

Andersons Dietician · Dec 21, 2018

Another indicator of the current CAF vibe, the score prediction pie chart mostly green instead of the usual grey/amber.

FujiVice · Dec 21, 2018

Genuinely feeling like I do the day before a cup final. I'm desperate for Ole to do well.

Cantonagotmehere · Dec 21, 2018

RedSky said:
I'd prefer to see Shaw in for Young. But I think that lineup is pretty close to what we'll see.

Is Shaw healthy?

pauldyson1uk · Dec 21, 2018

RedPed said:
You fed into all the media hype and attention as well, huh? Fair enough. That's your opinion. And no, I'm not joking. He's not the only player at the club who needs to prove himself but he's the only player constantly getting mentioned. Bullshit!

No media hype needed ,I go of what I see and he has been poor and captain in not the way to reward him, agreed yes other players need to improve , give the the captaincy !
For me he has to prove himself worthy of being captain and has yet he has not come close to it !

Revaulx · Dec 21, 2018

Smores said:
By abuse i suppose you mean criticism? Hardly seen anyone insult Antonio

Fair enough. I've just gone through the last couple of pages of his performances thread and it's all reasonable criticism. Maybe I imagined it, or it did happen but earlier. Even the "always thought he wasn't good enough" posts were few.

RedPed · Dec 21, 2018

pauldyson1uk said:
No media hype needed ,I go of what I see and he has been poor and captain in not the way to reward him, agreed yes other players need to improve , give the the captaincy !
For me he has to prove himself worthy of being captain and has yet he has not come close to it !

In that case, there is only one candidate. DDG gets the armband for the rest of the season. Possibly Mata, but I wouldn't want him starting every game.

RedPed · Dec 21, 2018

Andersons Dietician said:
Another indicator of the current CAF vibe, the score prediction pie chart mostly green instead of the usual grey/amber.

I'd gone for a 1-1 last week. Yeah, a 1-1 against fecking Cardiff! Changed it to 3-0 to United yesterday.

joedirt87 · Dec 21, 2018

Honestly think that Cardiff are going to get destroyed. You could pick someone from the stands to manage this one and it wouldn’t matter. Players will be on a high from being rid of Mourinho and will want to show up.

Red Dreams · Dec 21, 2018

Lukaku on sick leave?

Adisa · Dec 21, 2018

Quite incredible the difference a week can make.
This time last week, I would not have been bothered if we lost 10-0. Now, I can't wait for the game.

17 Van der Gouw · Dec 21, 2018

I don't know if it's his beard, but that vid makes him looks fat

Adnan · Dec 21, 2018

Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date

bosnian_red · Dec 21, 2018

Nice to see both Gomes and Garner part of the squad. One thing is Ole to say he'd give youth players a chance, another to actually include them in the squad.

BluesJr · Dec 21, 2018

Young players in the travelling squad like I predicted. Good to see that message being implemented early.

ErranMorad · Dec 21, 2018

Has Greenwood traveled?

Damien · Dec 21, 2018

ErranMorad said:
Has Greenwood traveled?

Nope.

Infestissumam · Dec 21, 2018

I can't wait for tomorrow. It just feels so good to finally look forward to games again and be optimistic ... it's been way too long.

pauldyson1uk · Dec 21, 2018

RedPed said:
In that case, there is only one candidate. DDG gets the armband for the rest of the season. Possibly Mata, but I wouldn't want him starting every game.

DDG would work for me.

Dante · Dec 21, 2018

Woke up this morning, feeling fine
Got Man United on mind
Ole's got us playing the way that United should
Oh, yeah
Something tells me I'm into something good

prateik · Dec 21, 2018

Don't expect Garner or Gomes to make the 18. Those 2 and a keeper will sit out.

Handré1990 · Dec 21, 2018

Robbie Boy said:
Battle of two dour, grim, dated managers. Watch us make Callum Paterson look like Messi. Warnock had better watch out, the last game Mourinho came up against a dated, negative manager like himself, that manager was sacked after failing to beat us (Hughes).

I just saw this reading through the first replies! :lol:

I was at a loss, before I glanced at the date. Things can change quickly in football. I submitted my first lineup in ages today.

It’s exciting just to feel anyone might have a chance of getting a start. Can’t fecking wait!

Seven Seas Sardines · Dec 21, 2018

Nice to see Garner and Gomes travel, sad not to see Greenwood and Chong.

RedDevilRoshi · Dec 21, 2018

Great to see both Gomes & Garner involved with the first team.

RedDevilRoshi · Dec 21, 2018

Dante said:
Woke up this morning, feeling fine
Got Man United on mind
Ole's got us playing the way that United should
Oh, yeah
Something tells me I'm into something good

That’s more like it!

Can’t believe Jose’s name used to get an airing during that chant.

Canagel · Dec 21, 2018

No sign of Mourinhos golden boy McTominay .

Havak · Dec 21, 2018

Nice to see Gomes and Garner taken along. I suppose it is unlikely that either of them will make the 18, but it's definitely possible.

de Gea
Dalot Bailly Lindelof Shaw
Matic
Herrera Pogba
Lingard Rashford Martial
---
Romero; Jones, Young; Fellaini, Fred, Mata, Pereira

Expecting something like this.

redshaw · Dec 21, 2018

The Moyes and Jose songs are pretty toe curling on their own and and commemorate the worst runs we've had.

I don't think they sound well to boost or lift the players.

pseudo_canadian · Dec 21, 2018

Infestissumam said:
I can't wait for tomorrow. It just feels so good to finally look forward to games again and be optimistic ... it's been way too long.

It's amazing how different I feel compared to how I felt last week when Mourinho was still here.

Complete 180 in my mood and outlook towards the club.

Seven Seas Sardines · Dec 21, 2018

abdo99 said:
No sign of Mourinhos golden boy McTominay .

I hope he's left out and not injured. Leaving out McTominay in favour of Garner and Gomes would be a great first move.

Adisa · Dec 21, 2018

abdo99 said:
No sign of Mourinhos golden boy McTominay .

Feel bad for the guy but he was never good enough. Didn't even stand out among the reserves.

waza7111 · Dec 21, 2018

de Gea
Dalot - Bailly - Lindelof - Shaw
Herrera
Fred/Pereira - Pogba
Lingard - Rashford - Martial

I just want us to attack. The full backs should get high up the pitch and act like wingers. Herrera can give some protection to Bailly and Lindelof but everyone else should be attacking. Bring back the old mentality of 'If they score 2 we'll score 3'.

Robbie Boy · Dec 21, 2018

Handré1990 said:
I just saw this reading through the first replies! I was at a loss, before I glanced at the date. Things can change quickly in football. I submitted my first lineup in ages today. It’s exciting just to feel anyone might have a chance of getting a start. Can’t fecking wait!

Thankfully that post is no longer applicable. Aye tomorrow is the first United match I’ve looked forward to in a long time.

Canagel · Dec 21, 2018

Seven Seas Sardines said:
I hope he's left out and not injured. Leaving out McTominay in favour of Garner and Gomes would be a great first move.

Adisa said:
Feel bad for the guy but he was never good enough. Didn't even stand out among the reserves.

Yeah nothing against the lad but he was only getting picked because of Mourinho obsession with height . He even invented an award for him last season!
There's nothing wrong with blooding the youngsters but they've got have the talent too - not all of them will make it at United

FA Premier League

Cardiff City 1:5 Manchester United

Cardiff City Stadium

Closed

Last Man Standing finalist 2019/20

loves to hate United.

Thinks the caf is 'wokeish'.

New Member

Full Member

Full Member

Last Man Standing finalist 2019/20

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Whatabouter.

Whatabouter.

Full Member

Full Member

likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt

biffa bin

Talent Spotter

Worst scout to ever exist

Owns the moral low ground

New Member

Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin)

Full Member

Full Member

Average bang

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Pokemon master

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt

Full Member

Full Member

Full Member

Man of the Match

Runners-up

Player Ratings

Highest Rated Player

Lowest Rated Player

Score Predictions

Detailed Results

Match Stats

Referee

Man Utd Lineup

Substitutes