Club Brugge 0:4 Manchester United

Bwuk · Aug 24, 2015

Herrera has to play surely.

Chuckazulu · Aug 24, 2015

I would rest Memphis for Young, as some have suggested, and try a new attacking setup which would mean Hernandez up front, Rooney as the second striker and Valencia as the right winger. Keep the same defensive core and with a front three that I have suggested, I think, that would be a team good enough to kill off any threat from Brugge.

Romero
Darmian Smalling Blind Shaw
Schneiderlin Schweinsteiger
Valencia Rooney Young
Hernandez

I know this will never happen but I would give it try and see how it would function.

LawCharltonBest · Aug 24, 2015

Brugge 1-0 United.

Brugge win but United qualify.

Shark · Aug 24, 2015

Bwuk said:
Herrera has to play surely.

I reckon he won't. LVG will want two DM's again seeing as we're defending a lead. Herrera should have started against Newcastle with one of Bastian or Morgan.

#07 · Aug 24, 2015

Bwuk said:
Herrera has to play surely.

I'd be literally stunned if Herrera got any minutes on Wednesday. This is a game in which we will obviously play two defensive midfielders and use Fellaini as an out ball. Van Gaal knows a bore score draw will see us through. He won't want a "risk taker" like Herrera playing. He might break forward and compromise the shape by trying to create something. Van Gaal won't want that. I'm sure some players will get a break to ensure they're fit for the weekend. The ones who come in though will be the ones Van Gaal trusts to carry out his orders. Herrera clearly isn't one of these.

pierrethesnack · Aug 24, 2015

Chuckazulu said:
I would rest Memphis for Young, as some have suggested, and try a new attacking setup which would mean Hernandez up front, Rooney as the second striker and Valencia as the right winger. Keep the same defensive core and with a front three that I have suggested, I think, that would be a team good enough to kill off any threat from Brugge.

Romero
Darmian Smalling Blind Shaw
Schneiderlin Schweinsteiger
Valencia Rooney Young
Hernandez

I know this will never happen but I would give it try and see how it would function.

Kind of agree with this. Valencia and Young on the wings would provide excellent cover for the full backs, while Rooney could also help out in the middle, giving us numerical advantage there + plus it would give Hernandez the opportunity to show us what he got.

Would be pretty toothless up front though, but I'd take it for one game. If we manage to score, I suppose we should also sub off Shaw or Darmian, giving them some rest.

Escobar · Aug 24, 2015

I hope he plays Herrera and it would be great if Pereira also would get some minutes once we lead

Bwuk · Aug 24, 2015

Chuckazulu said:
I would rest Memphis for Young, as some have suggested, and try a new attacking setup which would mean Hernandez up front, Rooney as the second striker and Valencia as the right winger. Keep the same defensive core and with a front three that I have suggested, I think, that would be a team good enough to kill off any threat from Brugge.

Romero
Darmian Smalling Blind Shaw
Schneiderlin Schweinsteiger
Valencia Rooney Young
Hernandez

I know this will never happen but I would give it try and see how it would function.

Valencia and Young on the wings with Rooney behind Hernandez? This isn't 2011.

We should be going out and slapping them. The first leg was completely one sided.

Screw this defensive mentality.

sincher · Aug 24, 2015

----------------------------Romero---------------------------
Valencia--------Smalling---------Blind----------------Shaw
---------------Herrera-----Schneidi-----------------------
Young----------------Fellaini---------------------Memphis
-----------------------Rooney--------------------------------

Dans · Aug 24, 2015

You'd be mad to play Valencia as a full back in this game. Were we 4 up, ok, but we are only 2 up.

Flying_Heckfish · Aug 24, 2015

Fellaini should come in I reckon, only question is does LvG think he has the 'match rhythm", probably not

Rednotdead · Aug 24, 2015

Just in case anyone hasn't posted this already, BT Sport is showing the game for free on Freeview Channel 59.

Havak · Aug 24, 2015

Would love us to revert to last season's 433 with Herrera and Fellaini starting. Everyone's moaning about Rooney, but nobody other than Memphis seems to be willing to make a run behind the defence to help him out a bit.

Romero
Darmian Smalling Blind Shaw
Carrick
Herrera Fellaini
Mata Rooney Young

Pretty sure Memphis will still start which I'm fine with, as Brugge will be shitting their knickers at the sight of him. Should probably be for Mata if we get to see the above.

Trigg · Aug 24, 2015

I think we might see the same team as Saturday with the exception of Fellaini coming in for Januzaj dropping out. Carrick might force his way back in too after impressing with his sub appearance.

OldRed73 · Aug 24, 2015

Dans said:
You'd be mad to play Valencia as a full back in this game. Were we 4 up, ok, but we are only 2 up.

I wouldn't play him if we were 10 up

We've been half a team both times he's replaced Darmian this season

DWelbz19 · Aug 24, 2015

BT are set to show this game for free, allegedly.

Black Adder · Aug 24, 2015

Think Herrera will be given rare chance to start.

JoaquinJoaquin · Aug 24, 2015

1 or 2 nil borefest. Rooney might even actually in a game for once.

If I was Herrera and didn't play in this one I would seriously be considering my options.

BootsyCollins · Aug 24, 2015

Hopes we rest some players, but not to many. Extremly important match. Darmian, Mata and Morgan can get some rest. If we are going to play with Rooney as our main striker this season we might as well play him this match also to try and get him going.
Hopes Memphis starts and get a goal again, then subbed around the 60 minute mark.
Fellaini in for Januzaj and Rojo in for Blind at some point in the second half.

So hope for :

--------------Romero-------------
Valencia--Smalling--Blind---Shaw
----------Carrick--Herrera--------
Young-------Januzaj------Memphis
---------------Rooney-------------

Subs : Fellaini, Rojo, Hernandez

But i think we will play the the same team as last only with Carrick in for Bastian.

Question234 · Aug 24, 2015

pseudo_canadian said:
Just fecking hammer them so I can forget about the garbage result against Newcastle.

1-0

amolbhatia50k said:
Periera and Herrera to play?

no creativity or risks allowed.

RikRuud · Aug 24, 2015

------------------------Romero
Darmian------Smalling-------Blind--------Shaw
-----------------Herrera---Schneiderlin
Valencia-------------Fellaini------------Memphis
------------------------Rooney

Hard working squad with width. 2-0 Utd.

Trizy · Aug 24, 2015

Herrera and Chich to start, back 5 unchanged. We shouldn't piss about no matter how dominant we were in the first leg.

worldinmotion66 · Aug 24, 2015

Would love to play with a pacey forward line for this one. I'd like to see Hernandez lead the line with Depay and Young/Januzaj/Wilson either side, I think we can counter attack at will against them. But Van Gaal won't waiver from the philosophy, we'll try to control the game and play out a boring draw.

sunama · Aug 24, 2015

For those wanting our younger players to get a chance - you do realise that we have been out of EU games for a year. This game we are about to play is one of the most important games we are playing during LVG's tenure.
He will play his strongest team to ensure we win this.
If we fail to make the CL, LVG could lose his job (if he also fails to do well in the league).

He should and will play his absolute best team and wont treat this as some practise game for youngsters.

Shimo · Aug 24, 2015

Liking the fact the team was bitterly disappointed - and people like Mata saying he was enraged by the result against Newcastle. Hopefully, next two games they'll up their game even more and send us into the international break with something to smile about.

Brugge should be scared !

caisenma · Aug 24, 2015

People picking Valencia as a winger is enough proof for me that message boards and by extension freedom of speech in general should be banned.

sincher · Aug 24, 2015

Dans said:
You'd be mad to play Valencia as a full back in this game. Were we 4 up, ok, but we are only 2 up.

Valencia is pretty reliable really, they are not a huge threat and he will offer us more in the attacking third. Plus he needs minutes or will get too rusty.

Dans · Aug 24, 2015

sincher said:
Valencia is pretty reliable really, they are not a huge threat and he will offer us more in the attacking third. Plus he needs minutes or will get too rusty.

He'll offer us more in the attacking third? Are you mad? He'll pass inside, slightly backwards, every time he gets the ball.

Darmian is much more of a threat going forward.

Vooon · Aug 24, 2015

Chuckazulu said:
I would rest Memphis for Young, as some have suggested, and try a new attacking setup which would mean Hernandez up front, Rooney as the second striker and Valencia as the right winger. Keep the same defensive core and with a front three that I have suggested, I think, that would be a team good enough to kill off any threat from Brugge.

Romero
Darmian Smalling Blind Shaw
Schneiderlin Schweinsteiger
Valencia Rooney Young
Hernandez

I know this will never happen but I would give it try and see how it would function.

Looks good to me. I guess Rooney has to play if he's ever going to regain his form, maybe we can kick start Chicha with a goal or two.

sincher · Aug 24, 2015

Dans said:
He'll offer us more in the attacking third? Are you mad? He'll pass inside, slightly backwards, every time he gets the ball.

Darmian is much more of a threat going forward.

Not so sure about that. Darmian has done well but he hasn't crossed much or that well yet.

No doubt Valencia has had a couple of fairly poor seasons but he can still be a threat and he needs minutes for the sake of the squad.

RedDevil@84 · Aug 25, 2015

More or less the same team.. Young gets a start ahead of Depay maybe.. Herrera and Chicha on bench..
Both to come on when we have 10 mins of time left

SqueakyWeasel · Aug 25, 2015

sincher said:
Not so sure about that. Darmian has done well but he hasn't crossed much or that well yet.

No doubt Valencia has had a couple of fairly poor seasons but he can still be a threat and he needs minutes for the sake of the squad.

I noticed this. However, he made quite a lot of barnstorming runs from deep in pre-season. Do you think this is another aspect of LvG being a control freak and trampling all over any sign of creativity in the squad?

RedDevil@84 · Aug 25, 2015

Our team has no one to cross. With the ball, Memphis, Young, Shaw, Darmian, Valencia are really bad at crossing.
Valencia doesn't even dare to cross.

Chuckazulu · Aug 25, 2015

SqueakyWeasel said:
I noticed this. However, he made quite a lot of barnstorming runs from deep in pre-season. Do you think this is another aspect of LvG being a control freak and trampling all over any sign of creativity in the squad?

To be fair though, how can a man who claimed his team lacks creative players want to trample any sign of creativity?

SqueakyWeasel · Aug 25, 2015

Chuckazulu said:
To be fair though, how can a man who claimed his team lacks creative players want to trample any sign of creativity?

He "says" a lot of things, some of them even make sense, but what he does, week in - week out, is another thing! Although I'm living in hope that it's laying the ground for that creativity to be re-introduced some time soon.

He has definitely drilled some much needed discipline into us, making us more solid defensively, but I think this strict approach has come at a cost of our creativity. Anyone can set a team up to counter any formation strictly adhered to … but all the inspired coaching in the world can't stop a moment of creative brilliance that isn't scripted.

We're currently lacking those flashes of inspired brilliance at the moment but I'm hopeful they will come now it looks like we've finally got some strong foundations to build on.

sincher · Aug 25, 2015

RedDevil@84 said:
Our team has no one to cross. With the ball, Memphis, Young, Shaw, Darmian, Valencia are really bad at crossing.
Valencia doesn't even dare to cross.

Bring back Moyes!! 70 crosses per game (to noone in particular).

Giggsy PO · Aug 25, 2015

RedDevil@84 said:
Our team has no one to cross. With the ball, Memphis, Young, Shaw, Darmian, Valencia are really bad at crossing.
Valencia doesn't even dare to cross.

And our third goal against Brugge was scored by tooth fairy.

RedDevil@84 · Aug 25, 2015

Giggsy PO said:
And our third goal against Brugge was scored by tooth fairy.

Brugge and the PL teams are not in the same league.

RedDevil@84 · Aug 25, 2015

sincher said:
Bring back Moyes!! 70 crosses per game (to noone in particular).

I am not saying we should become a thump the ball team. All I am saying is that crossing is an essential skill and we would need our players to be accurate with that, not hit it above everyone's heads 9 out of 10 times.

Siorac · Aug 25, 2015

RedDevil@84 said:
Brugge and the PL teams are not in the same league.

Yeah, literally.

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