Fenerbahce 2:1 Manchester United

Android1974 · Oct 31, 2016

TMDaines said:
I think the manager's going to keep picking his strongest side to build up some momentum. Many of the players will get a decent amount of rest over the international break, but I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two big names on the bench at the weekend due to 4 yellow cards and Arsenal then next. As we're away from home, I think Carrick may play as an extra midfielder:

De Gea
Darmian Blind Rojo Shaw
Herrera Carrick
Mata Pogba Rashford/Martial
Zlatan

No doubt those big players will have time to rest till the Istambul game, but the same cannot be said about the following against Swansea. If Mourinho follows you're logic it will be because he's going for broke, just really desperate for a victory.

Also, as things stand in the Premier League, I honestly see no chance he'll rest players against Swansea just to save them from getting a yellow.

Android1974 · Oct 31, 2016

Kostur said:
If we're worried about Mkhitaryan's form and mental fragility (if there's one, call it low confidence, whatever) then Fenerbahce away would be the last place I'd play him.

Maybe some shock treatment is exactly what the doctor ordered.

EASTSIDE777 · Oct 31, 2016

jackofalltrades said:
Of the teams in this competition we are probably the strongest.

We still have to wait and see who will join from the CL.

jackofalltrades · Oct 31, 2016

EASTSIDE777 said:
We still have to wait and see who will join from the CL.

Even of those that at the moment are likey to join after Xmas we should have nothing to fear. I don't mean it'll be easy, just that the rest will fear us as much as or more than we fear them. Benfica, Oporto and Besiktas seem the main danger. Of course it is a knock-out and anything can happen.

Android1974 · Oct 31, 2016

Isn't that Joe Riley training with the first team? Might he get a call to travel to Istambul?

3KDré · Oct 31, 2016

Android1974 said:
Isn't that Joe Riley training with the first team? Might he get a call to travel to Istambul?

I think he trains with the first team quite regularly though.

khoazany · Nov 1, 2016

Android1974 said:
Isn't that Joe Riley training with the first team? Might he get a call to travel to Istambul?

Yeah him and Tuanzebe. Hopefully both will get the call, we need some rotation on the defence and options on the bench.

RedDevil@84 · Nov 1, 2016

With Feyenoord playing at home, we need to win to remain with plans of topping the group.

VP89 · Nov 1, 2016

So Fenerbache and ourselves are joint top on 6 points. If we win in Turkey that should mean we pretty much be qualified.

I don't think Pogba, Zlatan, Rashford should travel though.

We can field Rooney, Martial (if fit), Depay, Fellaini and still get the 3 points.

minoo-utd · Nov 1, 2016

IMO it's our realistic hope to play in C.L next season.

VP89 · Nov 1, 2016

minoo-utd said:
IMO it's our realistic hope to play in C.L next season.

Unless City get dumped out of the CL and join us in Europa

rotherham_red · Nov 1, 2016

jackofalltrades said:
Looking at the top 4 clubs, it's going to be difficult to make up those 7 points. None of them look likely to dip at the moment. Traditionally. Arsenal go through a rough period at some point in the season so they may be our best hope. On the other hand, when did they last fail to qualify for the CL ?

I wasn't as impressed as some by our performance againt Fener, at least until the penalties came along. Before those penalties, we hadn't done much apart from have lots of possession. Our first clear opportunity was an excellent pass to Rooney, who failed to control the ball. Then came two penalties. After the break they pressed quite hard and we got a third goal on the counterattack.

I expect a tough game on Thursday so I think we'll have to play our strongest team. Provided we get a point we'll be on course to qualify, but obviously we want to go through top of the group. Thank god Sevilla are unlikely to be in the EL this year !

They all still have to play each other, most of them twice. It's mathematically guaranteed they'll be dropping points. The key is for us to make sure we're in a position to capitalise, which we haven't done so far.

rotherham_red · Nov 1, 2016

2 Man Midfield said:
What time does this kick off? OP says 8:05pm while the top of the thread says 6pm.

Think they've all been 8:05 so far?

Our away games in the EL are 6, and home games 8.05

2 man midfield · Nov 1, 2016

rotherham_red said:
Our away games in the EL are 6, and home games 8.05

How come I've never noticed this trend before? It makes sense when you think it through.

Thanks.

TMDaines · Nov 1, 2016

Half the games in Europa League are at 6 and half at the later slot. United manage to wrangle the three games at the later slot thankfully, but there was no guarantee of it,

Adam-Utd · Nov 1, 2016

2 Man Midfield said:
How come I've never noticed this trend before? It makes sense when you think it through.

Thanks.

Think we complained that 6pm wasn't possible for home games due to traffic etc. Remember it being an issue against Liverpool. Maybe they've agreed to give us all home games for that time.

K2K · Nov 1, 2016

Hugh Jass said:
I would give Zlatan a break. Put Rooney up front. Play Depay maybe as well. I would give Pogba a break also.

Please dont.

Rashford or Martial are better strikers and we need a win here.

Zlatan is supposedly suspended for the league game so we should be trying out the attack that we will use in the league game.

K2K · Nov 1, 2016

Maradona10 said:
Honestly man, please let other people make Match day threads. Its a superstition thing, but just give it a try. We have had feck all luck since you ve made them. No slight on you but let someone else do it. Just give it a try, if results dont improve you can take over again.

On the match, Play mkhi please fecking score. Give Ibra a rest maybe that will help him regain his form. Play Pogba as he finally seems to be getting on his game and disrupting that would be bad. Just win.

Cnaiür urs Skiötha · Nov 1, 2016

jackofalltrades said:
Of the teams in this competition we are probably the strongest.

Maybe you could think this looking at the list of Players. Anybody having watched us Play this season (or the ones before) might disagree.

jackofalltrades · Nov 1, 2016

Cnaiür urs Skiötha said:
Maybe you could think this looking at the list of Players. Anybody having watched us Play this season (or the ones before) might disagree.

That's true. I have no delusions about our play at the moment. But the others are not better,I'd say. If Sevilla were to be knocked out of the CL, I'd change my tune. But I think we can win it. Can, that is. Not will. Daft penalties or silly red cards can ruin everythng.

m1y2 · Nov 1, 2016

We will smash them 4:0

jackofalltrades · Nov 1, 2016

rotherham_red said:
They all still have to play each other, most of them twice. It's mathematically guaranteed they'll be dropping points. The key is for us to make sure we're in a position to capitalise, which we haven't done so far.

I agree with what you say but I would qualify it.

MU v Chelsea (A), Pool(A), City(H) = 1 point
Pool v Arsenal (A) Chelsea(A) MU(H) = 7 points.
2 points from home games against Stoke, Burnley.

As things stand we are unable to sustain a good run, also we could get 13 out of the next 15 points and still not dent Arsenal's lead. And our goal difference is 1, Chelsea's 12.

Having said that, favourable results over 3 games and we could be league leaders. Some years ago we lost a seven point lead over three games.

rotherham_red · Nov 1, 2016

jackofalltrades said:
I agree with what you say but I would qualify it.

MU v Chelsea (A), Pool(A), City(H) = 1 point
Pool v Arsenal (A) Chelsea(A) MU(H) = 7 points.
2 points from home games against Stoke, Burnley.

As things stand we are unable to sustain a good run, also we could get 13 out of the next 15 points and still not dent Arsenal's lead. And our goal difference is 1, Chelsea's 12.

Having said that, favourable results over 3 games and we could be league leaders. Some years ago we lost a seven point lead over three games.

I agree mate, which is why I said it's key we capitalise, which we haven't done thus far. I think it'll turn though eventually, we're playing well enough to suggest it's round the corner.

jackofalltrades · Nov 1, 2016

rotherham_red said:
I agree mate, which is why I said it's key we capitalise, which we haven't done thus far. I think it'll turn though eventually, we're playing well enough to suggest it's round the corner.

Yep, we've put in some of good performances, the type that say things will get better, not worse.

zeekey · Nov 1, 2016

Do the Turks still meet the team at the airport with "Welcome to hell" banners and chants of "No way out"?

Cantonagotmehere · Nov 1, 2016

Herrera obviously starts. Please play Morgan with him and see how they do together. Save Carrick for the Swans. Keep Pogba going, thought he looked tired at the end of Burnley though.

U99ted · Nov 1, 2016

I'll be interested to see how we screw up yet another away game.

pauldyson1uk · Nov 1, 2016

For those going to the match , this is the latest FO advise.

https://www.gov.uk/government/world-location-news/fenerbahce-vs-manchester-united-travel-advice

Insanity · Nov 2, 2016

Love to see a controlled performance. Hoping for some minutes for Martial and Mkhitaryan.

De Gea
Darmian Smalling Rojo Shaw
Carrick
Schneiderlin Herrera
Mkhitaryan Rashford Martial

A comfortable one or two nil win.

duffer · Nov 2, 2016

Id really like to see Martial or Rashford given a few games upfront. Away in Turkey is not the place Jose will change too many things, Zlatan will start.

Treble · Nov 2, 2016

It wil be a very difficult game. Draw would be a good result.

Zoo · Nov 2, 2016

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kr0nix · Nov 2, 2016

Jones makes the squad but Memphis doesn't.

kps88 · Nov 2, 2016

kr0nix said:
Jones makes the squad but Memphis doesn't.

Smalling and Baily being injured means we have more space for a CB. Carrick not making it is a bigger surprise than Memphis. Maybe means he will take Herrera's place against Swansea.

Red_Beans · Nov 2, 2016

Martial, Jones and Micki back from injury

DomesticTadpole · Nov 2, 2016

kps88 said:
Smalling and Baily being injured means we have more space for a CB. Carrick not making it is a bigger surprise than Memphis. Maybe means he will take Herrera's place against Swansea.

Think that is exactly it.

Red_Beans · Nov 2, 2016

kps88 said:
Smalling and Baily being injured means we have more space for a CB. Carrick not making it is a bigger surprise than Memphis. Maybe means he will take Herrera's place against Swansea.

Saving Carrick for Swansea makes sense. I hope one or both of Martial and Micki start

Red_Beans · Nov 2, 2016

looks like we will play a strong team and go for the win

Chaky_Best · Nov 2, 2016

Full squad :

De Gea, Romero, Johnstone;

Blind, Jones, Darmian, Fosu-Mensah, Rojo, Shaw;

Fellaini, Herrera, Mkhitaryan, Lingard, Mata, Pogba, Schneiderlin, Young;

Ibrahimovic, Martial, Rashford, Rooney.

21 man squad in this so 3 mens will be out tonight.

-----------------------------------De Gea----------------------------------------
Darmian-------------------Mensah--------Rojo----------------------------Shaw
--------------------------Fellaini-----------Herrera-------------------------------
Mkhitaryan------------------------Mata-----------------------------------Martial
------------------------------------Rooney----------------------------------------

Subs : Romero, Blind, Schneiderlin, Lingard, Pogba, Ibra, Rashford.

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