Feyenoord 1:0 Manchester United

Havak · Sep 12, 2016

Players like Fosu-Mensah, Memphis, Young etc might have to wait until we get some easier / home games in this competition before they play. I think the players who definitely start are: de Gea, Darmian, Smalling, Schneiderlin, Herrera, and Rashford.

Jones, Rojo, Carrick, Mata, and Martial are the the others who didn't start on Saturday that could also play, but I think Jose will be very hesitant to change the entire set of outfield players. So, it probably won't be those 11 players that I mentioned. Blind/Shaw will probably keep their place, maybe Mkhitaryan and Pogba or something like that.

I definitely expect Valencia, Bailly, Fellaini, and Ibrahimovic to be rested. Lingard dropped.

sunama · Sep 12, 2016

Havak said:
Lingard dropped.

I think that Jose made it very clear that 2-3 players performed badly and that he now knows what they can/can't do. Lingard was one of them and I don't expect him to play for us anytime soon.
Unfortunately for Lingard, he'll have to wait a while before he gets another chance.

JustAFan · Sep 12, 2016

We will look bad given the number of players with very little game time that will get played. We will edge this out 1-0 or 2-1 at best

jderbyshire · Sep 12, 2016

Can't see Memphis starting - he hasn't even made the bench this season, has he??

A bit off-topic, but I actually saw him outside Manchester Airport today, dropping off a mate in his big 4x4 Merc.

Edit: Didn't quite have time to get my phone out and take a decent pic, but I did my best...

http://pasteboard.co/2iPWC3Mc3.jpg

steve zizou · Sep 12, 2016

sunama said:
I think that Jose made it very clear that 2-3 players performed badly and that he now knows what they can/can't do. Lingard was one of them and I don't expect him to play for us anytime soon.
Unfortunately for Lingard, he'll have to wait a while before he gets another chance.

Isn't this the same thing LVG was being criticised for the whole of last season? Him not playing players he didn't trust equalled throwing them under the bus.

Sammyjunn · Sep 12, 2016

sunama said:
LOL.
So true.

Yeah, there's no career possible apart from United.

TMDaines · Sep 13, 2016

Really surprised at the almost absolute consensus that Ibra does not start. A player like him I expect to be starting virtually every game given his high profile and top fitness.

Jig1234 · Sep 13, 2016

I hope we play 4-3-3. Would love to see Fosu-Mensah get a midfield role.

R'hllor · Sep 13, 2016

If he plays some same players on Thursday and next game in PL then feck it,on top all his talk about him can not waiting for month of CC,EL so he can give games to others is bullshit.

VivaObertan · Sep 13, 2016

Romero
Darmian - Smalling - Blind - Rojo
---Schneiderlin - Carrick
Lingard - Rooney - Martial
--------Rashford

Jones, Depay and Young on as subs.

Treble · Sep 13, 2016

We should rest the players that are going to play on Sunday. Watford will give us a game, IMO.

Gerald G · Sep 13, 2016

Romero
Darmian--Smalling--Jones--Rojo
Herrera--Carrick--Schneiderlin
Mata--Rashford--Memphis

subs: Johnstone, Tuanzebe, TFM, Fellaini, Young, Lingard, Martial

KirkDuyt · Sep 13, 2016

Feyenoord will most probably look like this on thursday:

You might know El Ahmadi from his days at Villa. He's a very important player for us on midfield.

Berghuis played for Watford, but was deemed unworthy. Good player for us, but not good enough for Watford says it all I suppose.

And ofcourse our shining star and great leader; Dirk Kuyt. I'm sure you heard of him. Made the world's ugliest hattrick against some club from Manchester.

Classical Mechanic · Sep 13, 2016

KirkDuyt said:
And ofcourse our shining star and great leader; Dirk Kuyt. I'm sure you heard of him. Made the world's ugliest hattrick against some club from Manchester.

An over the hill Kuyt is your best player! We really should be winning this match easily.

KirkDuyt · Sep 13, 2016

Classical Mechanic said:
An over the hill Kuyt is your best player! We really should be winning this match easily.

Indeed you should. Rooney makes more money than our entire squad combined. Hell he probably makes more money then all our employees combined

Turnip · Sep 13, 2016

Going for a bonkers 3-0 win. Not sure who to suggest will start, but hoping to see some rotation for sure.

CassiusClaymore · Sep 13, 2016

I was in Rotterdam a couple of years back and a couple of guys stopped me and a mate asking if we were Ajax (they'd played them that day I believe). I said no we were English and then the bigger dude introduced himself as Wes "the best fighter (aka hooligan) in all of Holland". He asked what teams we supported and thinking he'd only know the big ones and wanting to avoid any confrontation I said Leicester (my home town) and instantly he knew their firm was called the baby squad. My mate said Derby County and was rightfully identified as a sheep shagger. :lol:

Seriously this guy could've been on Mastermind with football firms as his specialist subject. Anyway after regaling us with his graphic football hooligan tales and just when I thought he was gonna smash our faces in he invited us along to the club he and his mate were visiting next to do some coke with him to which we politely declined and made our way back to the hotel.

So yeah, if you're travelling to this one, look out for Wes and tell him Cass says hi.

Sunny Jim · Sep 13, 2016

IgnorantLobster said:
Just can't get myself excited for the Europe League.

Tickle your willy.

KirkDuyt · Sep 13, 2016

CassiusClaymore said:
I was in Rotterdam a couple of years back and a couple of guys stopped me and a mate asking if we were Ajax (they'd played them that day I believe). I said no we were English and then the bigger dude introduced himself as Wes "the best fighter (aka hooligan) in all of Holland". He asked what teams we supported and thinking he'd only know the big ones and wanting to avoid any confrontation I said Leicester (my home town) and instantly he knew their firm was called the baby squad. My mate said Derby County and was rightfully identified as a sheep shagger. Seriously this guy could've been on Mastermind with football firms as his specialist subject. Anyway after regaling us with his graphic football hooligan tales and just when I thought he was gonna smash our faces in he invited us along to the club he and his mate were visiting next to do some coke with him to which we politely declined and made our way back to the hotel.

So yeah, if you're travelling to this one, look out for Wes and tell him Cass says hi.

Wouldnt be this guy by any chance?

http://www.rtvnh.nl/sport/70763/Aanvaller+Esteban+had+stadionverbod

Antisocial · Sep 13, 2016

I'm actually really looking forward to this one - I think it's a combination of the competition being such a low priority with the prospect of seeing the fringe players and their reactions to their exclusions from the first few games that makes it interesting and a little unpredictable. I hoping that at least some players will be out to show the manager that they have something to offer the first team.

Outside of DDG, I don't want to see anyone that we can call a first XI player involved (they should all be focusing on Watford) but I fear Mourinho will probably not rotate as much as I'd like.

I'd like to see:

DDG
Darmain---Smalling---Jones---Rojo
Carrick
Schneiderlin---Lingard
Mkhitaryan---Rashford---Memphis

Maybe Young over Memphis, but as it's in Holland then it might be the best chance we have of seeing something productive from the Dutchman.

In reality I think the front six might be pretty similar to what we've seen in the league, with Rashford being the obvious change from the start. The defence might not be too far away from my line-up though.

Henrik Larsson · Sep 13, 2016

Feyenoord's biggest weapon is probably their stadium, it normally has a better and more intense atmospshere than a overrated shitehole like Anfield in my opinion.

However, due to Feyenoord fans behaving like raging lunatics for years, De Kuip will be half empty on Thursday. Only 26.000 fans will be allowed instead of 50.000+, and nets will be placed too.

Their team is in decent form, but they obviously lack quality. Two good or at least half decent players missing with Kongolo and Elia. They also have a very important match against PSV Eindhoven this weekend.

It's a shame really, because it could've been a really interesting match-up, for example Feyenoord beat Sevilla 2-0 in Rotterdam two years ago. Given circumstances I can't see how it would be good and proper interesting match now.

CassiusClaymore · Sep 13, 2016

KirkDuyt said:
Wouldnt be this guy by any chance?

http://www.rtvnh.nl/sport/70763/Aanvaller+Esteban+had+stadionverbod

Nah, my guy had hair. And he was A Feyenoord fan.

KirkDuyt · Sep 13, 2016

CassiusClaymore said:
Nah, my guy had hair. And he was A Feyenoord fan.

Ah my bad this is the Ajax dude. We also have a 'famous' Wesley. Cant find the story though.

hobbers · Sep 13, 2016

This is a good time to whip out the old Herrera - Schneiderlin - Pogba midfield three and play Rashford from the start.

Mark_GrumpyLion · Sep 13, 2016

Henrik Larsson said:
Feyenoord's biggest weapon is probably their stadium, it normally has a better and more intense atmospshere than a overrated shitehole like Anfield in my opinion.

However, due to Feyenoord fans behaving like raging lunatics for years, De Kuip will be half empty on Thursday. Only 26.000 fans will be allowed instead of 50.000+, and nets will be placed too.

They also seem to be struggling to sell it out even.

MyOnlySolskjaer · Sep 13, 2016

KirkDuyt said:
Feyenoord will most probably look like this on thursday:

You might know El Ahmadi from his days at Villa. He's a very important player for us on midfield.

Berghuis played for Watford, but was deemed unworthy. Good player for us, but not good enough for Watford says it all I suppose.

And ofcourse our shining star and great leader; Dirk Kuyt. I'm sure you heard of him. Made the world's ugliest hattrick against some club from Manchester.

Thanks for the post, looks like both teams have similar setups. Interested to see how our players do, players like Memphis, Jones, Fosu haven't featured since pre-season. Smalling, Darmian haven't even featured since last season.

Henrik Larsson · Sep 13, 2016

Mark_GrumpyLion said:
They also seem to be struggling to sell it out even.

Yeah I read that too, though it seems that yesterday there were only 2000 tickets left. At the same time I heard that many United supporters were unhappy because they also limited the amount of seats for away fans.

When I heard about the draw I really wanted to go, but then I remembered the sanctions, and a half empty stadium with nets in a match where there's not really anything at stake just seemed very pointless. I do hope there will be no problems in Rotterdam with many fans deciding to watch the match somehwere else, I think it'll be all right but you never really know.

LawCharltonBest · Sep 13, 2016

Feyenoord are top of the table with 5 wins from 5.

Going to be tough

Adam-Utd · Sep 13, 2016

LawCharltonBest said:
Feyenoord are top of the table with 5 wins from 5.

Going to be tough

Until you realise Dirk Kuyt plays upfront for them and Memphis was the best player in that league. :lol:

All jokes aside they will no doubt be gunning for us, let's hope we have more luck in Holland this time

whatwha · Sep 13, 2016

I see people are picking Lingard and/or Mkhitaryan for this. Jose has said that the people who disappointed him against City won't be playing here.

Dazzmondo · Sep 13, 2016

KirkDuyt said:
Feyenoord will most probably look like this on thursday:

You might know El Ahmadi from his days at Villa. He's a very important player for us on midfield.

Berghuis played for Watford, but was deemed unworthy. Good player for us, but not good enough for Watford says it all I suppose.

And ofcourse our shining star and great leader; Dirk Kuyt. I'm sure you heard of him. Made the world's ugliest hattrick against some club from Manchester.

Vilhena was a young player with decent potential a few years ago. I guess he hasn't developed very well?

Dazzmondo · Sep 13, 2016

TMDaines said:
Really surprised at the almost absolute consensus that Ibra does not start. A player like him I expect to be starting virtually every game given his high profile and top fitness.

I doubt Zlatan wants to have to travel weekdays for a pretty meaningless competition. This is our chance to give the rest of the squad a chance.

Nickosaur · Sep 13, 2016

Was going to miss this as was away on business and wouldn't get back home until 8 Thursday evening.

Just been informed they've brought the flight forward - I'll be home by 5.30, just in time to change and go down the pub

CassiusClaymore · Sep 13, 2016

KirkDuyt said:
Ah my bad this is the Ajax dude. We also have a 'famous' Wesley. Cant find the story though.

After a quick google image search I'm fairly sure it's this guy...

KirkDuyt · Sep 13, 2016

Dazzmondo said:
Vilhena was a young player with decent potential a few years ago. I guess he hasn't developed very well?

His development stagnated a bit, but since the end of last season his game has picked up a lot. He decided to stay at Feyenoord even though it seemed he would leave.

As for how good he can become, it's hard to say.

OJKernow · Sep 13, 2016

Anyone expecting to see wholesale changes or a completely fresh starting 11 is going to be disappointed I think.

Yes Jose spoke about fringe players getting game time come September, but I can's see him changing any more than 3/4 players from what has been his regular side so far this season.

I think it's fair to assume that Rashford and Herrera both start after Jose's post match comments Vs City. Also expect to see Martial and Smalling in the side.

Apart form that, our first Europa league game of the season and it's a tough away match, don't think we'll see massive changes until the domestic cups kick in, also if we get to the point that we have points on the board in Europe and so can afford to rest players in the last few group games then we might see others getting a run.

Mark_GrumpyLion · Sep 13, 2016

Henrik Larsson said:
Yeah I read that too, though it seems that yesterday there were only 2000 tickets left. At the same time I heard that many United supporters were unhappy because they also limited the amount of seats for away fans.

When I heard about the draw I really wanted to go, but then I remembered the sanctions, and a half empty stadium with nets in a match where there's not really anything at stake just seemed very pointless. I do hope there will be no problems in Rotterdam with many fans deciding to watch the match somehwere else, I think it'll be all right but you never really know.

I was considering going too but could not find someone to help me get tickets and on second thought it would be safer for me to not stand between Feyenoord supporters in the town i loathe cheering on United.

Dazzmondo · Sep 13, 2016

KirkDuyt said:
His development stagnated a bit, but since the end of last season his game has picked up a lot. He decided to stay at Feyenoord even though it seemed he would leave.

As for how good he can become, it's hard to say.

I see. Also, just noticed you don't have Elia starting in your team. Doesn't he normally start?

caid · Sep 14, 2016

I do think its a good opportunity to mix it up a bit.
I'd be looking to stick with a smallish group of players who i'd try get in the team every week, so guys like Pogba, De Gea ... Smalling and Blind if it was last year, Bailly complicates things but looked knackered on Saturday and had a long trip for internationals so a break wouldn't do him harm.
Ibra you presume will need to be rested every so often, Rashford and Martial starting together would be nice imo.
Give Darmian a start if your looking to make use of him.
Experiment in midfield and on the wings because we haven't looked hugely convincing as unit so far.
Hererra as a #6 has looked pretty good tbh, that'd be nice to see more of.

Sigma · Sep 14, 2016

I don't think he will change it up that much

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