These games simply aren't enjoyable ever for me.
Only the result. And Juanfield.
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Liverpool 0:0 Manchester United
Anfield
- Kick-off
- Sat, 14 October 2017 @ 12:30pm BST
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Only the result. And Juanfield.
Yep, but still, even Salah's off the ball movement alone is scary. His finishing is so and so but let's hope Young can keep up with him.
Most of the pressure is probably on Big Rom today to deliver, he won't get much time and he's going to have to be sharp against their press.30 minutes
You didnt have to. It was literally everywhere.In the prematch talk, they said we Martial was playing off the right. Odd if true.
I think we should really be looking forward to this game. When we went to Anfield at this point last season the team was struggling a little bit and Liverpool were flying and seems the other way round this time. United have made a decent start and realistically 4 points from the next 3 games in October would not be a disaster for our title challenge, so I think the pressure is not massive on this game. The press love to hype this game up, but I like the way Mourinho is very business like about the match and i expect that to transfer to the players. "I understand the tradition, the emotions around with supporters, but I look at it in a professional way, to tell my players from the start of the season that every match is important. Every point is important, there’s no easy match, there is no matches that you prepare more carefully than others. I am not going to be here now and say this match is more important than another other." It is really interesting to see Jose's approach to these matches in contrast to Sir Alex Ferguson, I thought it was interesting this week when Gary Neville said that Ferguson used to get very intense ahead of these games and considering United never really played that well at Anfield under Ferguson I wonder if Mourinho's 'another match' approach to these big games may actually help the players more. Ferguson obviously had an emotional attachment to beating Liverpool (knocking them off their perch etc) which is great, but maybe that desperation effected the players a little bit in a lot of games at Anfield.VS
Date - Saturday, October 14 2017
Kickoff Time - 1230 Hrs BST
Venue - Anfield, Liverpool
League standings and form guide
2. Manchester United : WDWWW
7. Liverpool : WLDWD
Last 5 meetings
Manchester United 1 : 1 Liverpool
Liverpool 0 : 1 Manchester United
Manchester United 3 : 1 Liverpool
Liverpool 1 : 2 Manchester United
Manchester United 3 : 0 Liverpool
All-Time Record
Manchester United wins - 67
Liverpool wins - 55
Draws - 46
Pre Match Pressers
José Mourinho
Jürgen Klopp
Team News
Manchester United
Zlatan Ibrahimović, Marcos Rojo, Marouane Fellaini and Michael Carrick ruled out. Paul Pogba doubtful.
Liverpool
Ádám Bogdán, Adam Lallana and Sadio Mané ruled out. Nathanial Clyne doubtful.
Know the opposition
Liverpool FC (nicknamed The Reds) are an English professional football club based in Liverpool, England. Liverpool were originally founded in 1892 as "Everton F.C. and Athletic Grounds Ltd" (Everton Athletic for short), before finalizing on the name Liverpool Football Club and Athletic Grounds Ltd after a dispute between the Everton FC board and John Houlding, the owner of Everton's former premise at Anfield Road. Liverpool's forays into competitive football started when they joined the Lancashire League. After winning the league title in their first season, Liverpool were accepted into the Football League for the 1893-94 season, following the resignations of Accrington and Bootle.
One of the most successful and storied clubs in the history of European football, Liverpool have won 18 English league titles, 5 European Cups, 7 FA Cups, and 8 League Cups, peaking in the 1970s and 1980s, first under the enigmatic Bill Shankly, and then his 'Boot Room' successors. Although Liverpool's fortunes as a domestic and European force have dwindled in the past 25 seasons, they still have a massive global support-base. Liverpool have two fierce historic rivals - crosstown club Everton FC (matches between them are termed The Merseyside Derby), and Manchester United (who ironically ascended to consistent title-winning prominence as Liverpool declined in the Premier League era).
Referee
Martin Atkinson.
I am looking forward to see how this United side match up against the first genuinely high quality side we have faced this season. Mourinho is right when he says there are no easy games in the Premier League, but it's hard to see how you measure up until you play someone with genuine quality. Liverpool may be struggling results wise with just one win in seven, but they haven't played that badly in most of the games, at Anfield they will play with a big determination to win this game no doubt about it. I think we are better equiped this season for this challenge than we were last season, we have more confidence and less pressure and a manager who demands the rigt level of intensity in every game. Jose feels United are in a better shape than this time a year ago, when the Reds played out a goalless draw in the corresponding fixture. “We’re in a better position in the table, I think we are playing better, you are more confident because when you have better results, you have more confidence to play than if not,” he said. “It’s a very difficult match for us, and I think it’s a very difficult match for them.”
Tactically I will be surprised if United don't sit deep and play on the counter in this game. It is Jose's approach for big games and he will also know that Liverpool, famously have problems breaking down a deep defence. United used this approach at Anfield last season and were fairly comfortable in the 0-0 draw. What I want to see from our performance this season is more of counter-attacking threat from us. Klopp's system depends upon winning possession quickly preferable in the opposition half. Liverpool fans have, by and large, bought into Klopp's philosophy -- they understand the idea behind counter-pressing, they cheer any examples of successful turnovers particularly fervently. United's quality in the defence-attack transition will be key, I don't expect us to try and build attacks, I expect us to use direct balls in-behind the Liverppol defence. This approach will stop Liverpool winning the ball back in dangerous area's but also could help expose Liverpool defence. Last season we knocked long-balls upto Ibrahimovic who had to battle on his own to win possession, but this season with Lukaku up-front with a genuine counter-attacking threat. Liverpool's back line is, in Premier League terms, no better than average. Klopp generally pushes his full-backs forwardand therefore space will open up in the channels for Lukaku to drift into. The space behind the perennially-out-of-position Alberto Moreno, and on the outside of the unconvincing Dejan Lovren, will be particularly crucial and United should target that zone.
The midfield zone will be spiky, Liverpool will use three energetic players that will look to press United's midfield players hard. Herrera and Matic who certain to start because of injuries are quite press resistant because of their quality in possession and are good recovering the ball themselves so expect plenty of tackles in this zone. Mkhitrayan may cause Henderson problems if he can be found in pockets of space. Henderson isn't a natural defensive midfielder and will leave space for United to counter-attack into, but this would require United playing through Liverpool's pressing which may be difficult to do as Liverpool are so well drilled at doing it.
Sadio Mane was Liverpool’s outstanding performer last season, scoring 13 league goals by storming inside from the right flank to run in behind the opposition defence. His injury is a big blow to Liverpool but the arrival of Mohamed Salah, who plays best from the right, still gives Liverpool a main goal threat. He will look to exploit the space created by Firmino’s movement into deeper positions, between the lines to tempt United's centre-backs out with Salah streaking past on the outside. United's left-back zone is a problem area and Salah could cause Young problems because he is not a natural defender and Blind problems if he plays there because of his lack of pace. I think Darmian might be the best option in this zone, because he defends the inside channel really well and is a fairly mobile defender.
Elsewhere I think Lingard will be a good option on the right instead of Mata. Mata may struggle to track Moreno's runs forward. Lingard is disciplined enough to deal with that as well as having the intelligence and speed to run in-behind Moreno when he gets caught out of position. Otherwise I would expect Bailly to return alongisde Jones and Herrera to replace the injured Fellani in midfield.
Subs - Romero, Smalling, Blind, Tuanzebe, Young, Mata, Martial.
Well, I missed it.
it counters their own risktaking in midfield. I say it's just like for like
Hahaha ! *cough* Coutinho
I can't see it...
Damian has played wing back more than in the back three and he has blind or lindloff who would seem more suited if he wanted a back three.
Mkhitaryan will play right, Martial left.
Being pressed in no 10 ? By a mid 3 ?
If they press him our midfeild will get more space to dominate the middle and be on the ball. If they don't press him he'll have the space to get in behind. And free lukaku to get in behind.Tweet
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Mourinho and LVG.
Fair enough.
Think it's a 4-2-3-1 with Young on the wing then?
I think Darmian played this position against Chelsea last season where we won 2-0, he doubled up with Young at LB at the time and nullified them, possibly a similar plan. The same game where Herrera did his thing against Hazard.
Mkh in the middle and young on rw. 4231 .
That's what I said.Lots of energy in their midfield 3, really wish we had players available for our own midfield 3.
Herrera will have to pull a Ji-Sung-Ironlung performance today.
Camera has frozen the action .. LVG is slapping him.Never change Katie
I've been good this season.12:03
Landmark day for Valencia
A solid performer for United over the years.
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Hmm, quite possibly. He did play once on the right on the wing. So yeah I can see that.
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Valencia Jones Smalling Darmian
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LVG straight back to Wings last night
Didn't realise I'd be so pleased to see the mad old bastard back, had a good record against them I hope he brings with him too.If we end up sitting deep Darmian over Blind is going to look a bit daft I think.Seeing as how my BPM seems to be skyrocketing with less that 30 mins to go I'm glad I got my annual medical out of the way yesterday.Looks like fan park in Bangalore is super fun. Shame I will be travelling just after the game so didn't even bother checking it.
Announcer said nearly 20K people at the screening. Shearer and Ronny Johnsen are here. ManUtd so easily outnumbered Liverpool fans.Expecting us to employ similar tactics to those we used against Ajax. Play it long, bypass the press. Liverpool aren't as defensively good as Ajax but far better at scoring goals (obviously). It'll be a scrappy game typical of games right after the international break.
Hope to christ we can win this. It would be huge for morale.
Liverpool were arguably the better team until the sending off and should've been ahead by that time anyway. I'd be very wary of this team.
Surely it's this as you say @MyOnlySolskjaer.
Would be amazed to see Mourinho suddenly fielding Ashley Young as a RW.People if we should happen to lose today please try and chill the feck out and remember its October. If you keep that in the back of your head then it takes some pressure off. Thats what ive done and it seems to be working.Hope lvg is in our corner.The mods should temp ban the most annoying Liverpool posters if we lose, they will be unbearable.
You missed the tldr off the endI think we should really be looking forward to this game. When we went to Anfield at this point last season the team was struggling a little bit and Liverpool were flying and seems the other way round this time. United have made a decent start and realistically 4 points from the next 3 games in October would not be a disaster for our title challenge, so I think the pressure is not massive on this game. The press love to hype this game up, but I like the way Mourinho is very business like about the match and i expect that to transfer to the players. "I understand the tradition, the emotions around with supporters, but I look at it in a professional way, to tell my players from the start of the season that every match is important. Every point is important, there’s no easy match, there is no matches that you prepare more carefully than others. I am not going to be here now and say this match is more important than another other." It is really interesting to see Jose's approach to these matches in contrast to Sir Alex Ferguson, I thought it was interesting this week when Gary Neville said that Ferguson used to get very intense ahead of these games and considering United never really played that well at Anfield under Ferguson I wonder if Mourinho's 'another match' approach to these big games may actually help the players more. Ferguson obviously had an emotional attachment to beating Liverpool (knocking them off their perch etc) which is great, but maybe that desperation effected the players a little bit in a lot of games at Anfield.
I am looking forward to see how this United side match up against the first genuinely high quality side we have faced this season. Mourinho is right when he says there are no easy games in the Premier League, but it's hard to see how you measure up until you play someone with genuine quality. Liverpool may be struggling results wise with just one win in seven, but they haven't played that badly in most of the games, at Anfield they will play with a big determination to win this game no doubt about it. I think we are better equiped this season for this challenge than we were last season, we have more confidence and less pressure and a manager who demands the rigt level of intensity in every game. Jose feels United are in a better shape than this time a year ago, when the Reds played out a goalless draw in the corresponding fixture. “We’re in a better position in the table, I think we are playing better, you are more confident because when you have better results, you have more confidence to play than if not,” he said. “It’s a very difficult match for us, and I think it’s a very difficult match for them.”
Tactically I will be surprised if United don't sit deep and play on the counter in this game. It is Jose's approach for big games and he will also know that Liverpool, famously have problems breaking down a deep defence. United used this approach at Anfield last season and were fairly comfortable in the 0-0 draw. What I want to see from our performance this season is more of counter-attacking threat from us. Klopp's system depends upon winning possession quickly preferable in the opposition half. Liverpool fans have, by and large, bought into Klopp's philosophy -- they understand the idea behind counter-pressing, they cheer any examples of successful turnovers particularly fervently. United's quality in the defence-attack transition will be key, I don't expect us to try and build attacks, I expect us to use direct balls in-behind the Liverppol defence. This approach will stop Liverpool winning the ball back in dangerous area's but also could help expose Liverpool defence. Last season we knocked long-balls upto Ibrahimovic who had to battle on his own to win possession, but this season with Lukaku up-front with a genuine counter-attacking threat. Liverpool's back line is, in Premier League terms, no better than average. Klopp generally pushes his full-backs forwardand therefore space will open up in the channels for Lukaku to drift into. The space behind the perennially-out-of-position Alberto Moreno, and on the outside of the unconvincing Dejan Lovren, will be particularly crucial and United should target that zone.
The midfield zone will be spiky, Liverpool will use three energetic players that will look to press United's midfield players hard. Herrera and Matic who certain to start because of injuries are quite press resistant because of their quality in possession and are good recovering the ball themselves so expect plenty of tackles in this zone. Mkhitrayan may cause Henderson problems if he can be found in pockets of space. Henderson isn't a natural defensive midfielder and will leave space for United to counter-attack into, but this would require United playing through Liverpool's pressing which may be difficult to do as Liverpool are so well drilled at doing it.
Sadio Mane was Liverpool’s outstanding performer last season, scoring 13 league goals by storming inside from the right flank to run in behind the opposition defence. His injury is a big blow to Liverpool but the arrival of Mohamed Salah, who plays best from the right, still gives Liverpool a main goal threat. He will look to exploit the space created by Firmino’s movement into deeper positions, between the lines to tempt United's centre-backs out with Salah streaking past on the outside. United's left-back zone is a problem area and Salah could cause Young problems because he is not a natural defender and Blind problems if he plays there because of his lack of pace. I think Darmian might be the best option in this zone, because he defends the inside channel really well and is a fairly mobile defender.
Elsewhere I think Lingard will be a good option on the right instead of Mata. Mata may struggle to track Moreno's runs forward. Lingard is disciplined enough to deal with that as well as having the intelligence and speed to run in-behind Moreno when he gets caught out of position. Otherwise I would expect Bailly to return alongisde Jones and Herrera to replace the injured Fellani in midfield.
Subs - Romero, Smalling, Blind, Tuanzebe, Young, Mata, Martial.
Pity Bailly has missed out. Makes us weaker, hopefully Smalling and Jones will step up to the plate.
Why? He brings that balance of work rate , defensive contribution and abilities to run from defense to attack in counter and the crosses to lukaku. Would make coutinho play deeper.What happened to Bailly, just read he is not included? Has he suddenly injured?
That has Young on the left wing. Only way Young can play on the right would be with a 4-2-3-1- Status
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Score Predictions
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- Man Utd win
- Liverpool win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 22% Liverpool 1:2 Man Utd
- 15% Liverpool 0:2 Man Utd
- 14% Liverpool 1:1 Man Utd
- 11% Liverpool 1:3 Man Utd
- 7% Liverpool 0:1 Man Utd
- 5% Liverpool 0:3 Man Utd
- 4% Liverpool 2:2 Man Utd
- 4% Liverpool 2:1 Man Utd
- 4% Liverpool 0:4 Man Utd
- 3% Liverpool 0:0 Man Utd
- 2% Liverpool 2:3 Man Utd
- 2% Liverpool 2:0 Man Utd
- 2% Liverpool 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 1:4 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 3:1 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 1:0 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 5:0 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 2:4 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 3:2 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 3:0 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 1:5 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 3:4 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 4:0 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 4:3 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 5:1 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Liverpool
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 62% 38%
- Shots
- 19 6
- Shots on Target
- 5 1
- Corners
- 7 3
- Fouls
- 7 13
Referee
Martin Atkinson
Man Utd Lineup
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