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Android1974 · Oct 1, 2017

Could also be a long ball game for Fellaini as #10 in 4-2-3-1, like the Europa League final. I remember Pogba playing there in the corresponding game last season.

el3mel · Oct 1, 2017

sammsky1 said:
I'd play Lingard for this specific game as he provides faster, better and more reliable defensive work.

Away from home vs a Klopp team means we'll be defending alot and will have to win the game on the counter attack: Lingard and Martial provide the speed required to deliver such.

Agree about Darmian over Young for Left Back.

Android1974 said:
Yeah, but Mkhitaryan won't/can't play this game in the middle as #10, where is more vulnerable to pressing.

Well, I don't like Mikhi as a RW and he hasn't been good there but if we're talking about prediction then for sure Jose will play him IMO.

For me this is one of the few games that I'll like to see Rashford as a RW over Mikhi while Martial on left just to provide pace in dribbling up front in the counters, but we'll need to have a super sub in the bench if the game got complicated

But prediction wise it'll be Rashford - Lukaku - Mikhi attacking line up no doubt for me.

Android1974 · Oct 1, 2017

el3mel said:
Well, I don't like Mikhi as a RW and he hasn't been good there but if we're talking about prediction then for sure Jose will play him IMO.

For me this is one of the few games that I'll like to see Rashford as a RW over Mikhi while Martial on left just to provide pace in dribbling up front in the counters, but we'll need to have a super sub in the bench if the game got complicated

But prediction wise it'll be Rashford - Lukaku - Mikhi attacking line up no doubt for me.

I also think it's the more probable, although I see Martial having a chance and even Lingard, just not Mata. Could also depend on the minutes and the rest they get from internationals, besides a very particular game plan from Mourinho who could well make him drop Mkhitaryan (for instance, if we go 3-5-2, or relying on Fellaini's).

Mike09 · Oct 1, 2017

First big test finally. I'm looking forward.

And we can't use international break as an excuse IMO. Liverpool has more American & African players in their team which likely to have more fatigue travelling than us (Coutinho, Firmino, Mane, Matip, Salah) & (Bailly & Valencia).

sammsky1 · Oct 1, 2017

el3mel said:
Well, I don't like Mikhi as a RW and he hasn't been good there but if we're talking about prediction then for sure Jose will play him IMO.

For me this is one of the few games that I'll like to see Rashford as a RW over Mikhi while Martial on left just to provide pace in dribbling up front in the counters, but we'll need to have a super sub in the bench if the game got complicated

But prediction wise it'll be Rashford - Lukaku - Mikhi attacking line up no doubt for me.

Lingard has often been used in these sorts of games to perform a specific job. I dont rate Mhkitariyan on the right flank and think even less of his defensive capacities.

Anyways, we'll find out on the day: long time to go and all sorts of injuries and mishaps may happen during next 2 weeks

Android1974 · Oct 1, 2017

Mike09 said:
First big test finally. I'm looking forward.

And we can't use international break as an excuse IMO. Liverpool has more American & African players in their team which likely to have more fatigue travelling than us (Coutinho, Firmino, Mane, Matip, Salah) & (Bailly & Valencia).

Yeah, but they play at home, going to attack, with their crowd… Not the same context for fatigue.

GrandJury · Oct 1, 2017

This is where Jose reveals that he told Lukaku, Martial and Rashford to train together for the big away matches.

1-0 to us, Fellaini 99th minute from an offside cross please.

groovyalbert · Oct 1, 2017

Young and Lingard will start. It'll be 0-0, or 1-0 either way.

Dazzmondo · Oct 1, 2017

Android1974 said:
He's our anchor, can't go about doing that. Herrera's the guy for that job.

Fellaini could also do the job and in reality if Pogba was fit Fellaini would start anyway. So if a player is man marking it would probably be Fellaini. Herrera might start but if Pogba was fit I doubt he'd be playing so I'm not convinced. Mata has also been very good this season so I don't think he's easily taken out of the team.

Listar · Oct 1, 2017

Looking at city form, there I see pressure on us to win this.

Lawman · Oct 1, 2017

Wednesday at Stoke said:
Hopefully Pogba is healthy by then. Otherwise:

Rashford Lukaku Mata
Fellaini Herrera
Matic
Darmian Jones Bailly Valencia
deGea

I can't believe anyone picks a team and actually wants Darmain to start!

AgentP · Oct 1, 2017

Expected line-up:

De Gea
Valencia Bailly Jones Young
Matic
Herrera Fellaini
Mkhi Lukaku Martial

Martial has to play this game as he'll get plenty of chances to run against defenders in one-on-one situations. Mkhi has to be the creative outlet releasing the ball to Lukaku and Martial on the counter. Fellaini will be making runs into the box with Matic and Herrera providing cover for the defense. I'm feeling a bit confident about this game mainly because we have been devastating on the counter.

whatwha · Oct 1, 2017

Now we'll see how much we've improved from laat season. We haven't played any very good teams yet. Just a shame we're going into this test without Pogba.

Herrera must start.

LuisNaniencia · Oct 1, 2017

Android1974 said:
If Valencia arrives very late and tired, Darmian has a chance on the right.

Maybe we will go halves on a private jet for the South Americans like City and Liverpool did?

Siorac · Oct 1, 2017

If there's ever a guaranteed defeat, this is it. Away at Anfield where we almost never play well, after an international break when we almost never play well, against a team that is perfect for punishing our weakness at the full-back positions... We're going to park the bus, concede after increasing pressure and then concede one more when we're chasing the game. 2-0 Liverpool.

I hope I'm wrong but I feel we have as much a chance of winning as Martial has of starting.

All 3 United · Oct 1, 2017

Their weakness is in defence. We should go with an attacking team and they simply won't be able to handle it.

Park the bus and we're playing into their hands.

This shouldn't even be our first real test, they look poor and are there for the taking.

Hernandez - BFA · Oct 1, 2017

Red Katie said:
Hate international break with a passion.

Normally I do, and it's annoying having to wait 2 weeks until we play again - but I feel as if we need this break. Hopefully there won't be any injuries over the break, but I just see it as a week less to play without Pogba.

marukomu · Oct 1, 2017

I think we will struggle a bit here. If we lose, at least we can take pleasure in knowing that for them it will be on again. Then we can laugh when the fail.

Djemba-Djemba · Oct 1, 2017

Siorac said:
If there's ever a guaranteed defeat, this is it. Away at Anfield where we almost never play well, after an international break when we almost never play well, against a team that is perfect for punishing our weakness at the full-back positions... We're going to park the bus, concede after increasing pressure and then concede one more when we're chasing the game. 2-0 Liverpool.

I hope I'm wrong but I feel we have as much a chance of winning as Martial has of starting.

That's the spirit!

We have a good record at Anfield in recent years. Much better than any other big club that's for sure.

Jerch · Oct 1, 2017

I am quite pissed we play against Liverpool after international break. We never play well after that.

Wooly Red · Oct 1, 2017

Personally I'm not looking forward to this. I might feel a bit better after the Newcastle game... or not.

Also, yet another international break, really, they can all feck off.

Pexbo · Oct 1, 2017

I know it’s Anfield but I can’t help but think this will be a convincing win.

Their defence is a shambles and our attack has every tool to cause it real damage.

Our wide players should give their fullbacks more than enough to think about and limit the support for their attacking players. Lukaku will score a header or two.

All the while our defence should limit their chances.

0-3

Kush · Oct 1, 2017

BluesJr said:
What is our record after international breaks in the last 2 or 3 years? I have a feeling it’s bad. We are always sloppy after them for some reason.

I think I read somewhere that we haven't won a single game in PL coming off an International break under Mourinho, the only points we've dropped this season were at Stoke after an Int'l break.

This is the worst possible place to go to, you know they'll be up for it. Expect their dodgy defence to play out of their skins and contest every second ball as if their lives depended on it. Big test of our title credentials.

Also, why are people advocating dropping Mkhitaryan in favor of Lingard? Rashford is absolutely nailed to play as a LW to help the full back cope with the pace of Salah. Having Lingard would completely take away any threat on counter. Mkhi is frustrating as he loses a lot of possession but with Pogba out he's the only guy who can set us up for a quick break.

Formation is a big question, Fellaini's form is too good for him to be dropped but we also need Herrera's tenacity in the middle. I think he'll go with a normal back four with Darmian as a LB and Matic, Herrera, Fellaini in the middle. Rashford, Lukaku, Mkhitaryan up top.

Pexbo said:
I know it’s Anfield but I can’t help but think this will be a convincing win. Their defence is a shambles and our attack has every tool to cause it real damage.

Our wide players should give their fullbacks more than enough to think about and limit the support for their attacking players. Lukaku will score a header or two. All the while our defence should limit their chances.

0-3

I hope so but when have we turned up at Anfield and rolled them over? Whenever either side turn up at Anfield thinking it's their to lose opposite happens. See 2014/15 fixture under LVG and also last season under Mourinho.

They always always raise their game for us whenever we play them, very much like City. I still remember City midgets winning lots of aerial duels and almost every 2nd ball when we played them early last season. This lot will be no different, it's not been a great start for them but a win over their biggest rival and everything will be forgotten.

ayushreddevil9 · Oct 1, 2017

Kush said:
I think I read somewhere that we haven't won a single game in PL coming off an International break under Mourinho, the only points we've dropped this season at Stoke were after an Int'l break.

This is the worst possible place to go to, you know they'll be up for it. Expect their dodgy defence to play out of their skins and contest every second ball as if their lives depended on it. Big test of our title credentials.

Also, why are people advocating dropping Mkhitaryan in favor of Lingard? Rashford is absolutely nailed to play as a LW to help the full back cope with the pace of Salah. Having Lingard would completely take away any threat on counter. Mkhi is frustrating as he loses a lot of possession but with Pogba out he's the only guy who can set us up for a quick break.

Formation is a big question, Fellaini's form is too good for him to be dropped but we also need Herrera's tenacity in the middle. I think he'll go with a normal back four with Darmian as a LB and Matic, Herrera, Fellaini in the middle. Rashford, Lukaku, Mkhitaryan up top.

We are an in-form team because of very stable first xi with very few changes. Although I think there will be changes to cope with Liverpool's attack, I don't believe that we should tinker with our setup to handle opposition. Our opponents used to do that under SAF era and not us. We will be paying way too much respect to them if we play like lets say Darmian, who hasn't featured recently or Herrera who is also not much involved.

We go in this fixture with momentum and with us trying to fix something which ain't broken, would be an indication to pool to have a real go at us.

Adisa · Oct 1, 2017

I don't think I've ever looked forward to a Liverpool game.
I'm always so frightened of defeat.

Wednesday at Stoke · Oct 1, 2017

Lawman said:
I can't believe anyone picks a team and actually wants Darmain to start!

Jose will pick the team and start Darmian. He won't let Young or Blind mark Salah or Mane.

Catt · Oct 1, 2017

I'm having good feelings about this game so that obviously means we'll lose in a horrible way.

MadMike · Oct 1, 2017

Niall said:
First big test of the season. A lot of questions about how good we actually are this season will be answered in this game.

I don't think all those questions will be answered in that one match to be honest. I mean at the end of the day you can just have a bad game, like any other day, without that defining your quality or your season.

I don't really rate the Scousers as a team overall (good going forward, shit at the back) but they have a knack for raising their performance against the other big teams. They were even playing well at the Emptihad till Mane got sent off. So yeah I agree that it's the first real test.

Catt · Oct 1, 2017

Liver_bird said:
Off the back of an international break it's going to be shit. Hope we don't pick up anymore injuries.
Same thing every year, would be nice if they at least put a couple buffer games in for once. We have zero form atm.

Aren't you playing quite well? Think you'll thump Newcastle later and that would help the confidence a bit.

Catt · Oct 1, 2017

marukomu said:
I would love it to be a windy day and for us to win with an offside goal.

Defensive lineup, wind and an offside goal for us would be great

golden_blunder · Oct 1, 2017

SuperiorXI said:
Big Rom will have a field day against that "defence".

The few times that I've watched rom for Everton in the Merseyside derby, he was anonymous. So let's wait and see

Crashoutcassius · Oct 1, 2017

Expecting a highly tactical game...

The White Pele · Oct 1, 2017

Feck, it's going to feel like a long wait for this.

I hope we can go there with a fit first XI (minus Pogba I guess).

A draw wouldn't be the worst result given that we are doing the business against the rest of the league.

Di Maria's angel · Oct 1, 2017

Whatever happens, I hope we don't play that 6-3-1 formation.

marukomu · Oct 1, 2017

International football should be abolished. It's shite and boring. I haven't watched an International since I came to Japan 12 years ago. Being on TV at 3am doesn't help, I suppose.
2 weeks until the next game because if that nonsense.

MThomas · Oct 1, 2017

Pexbo said:
I know it’s Anfield but I can’t help but think this will be a convincing win.

Their defence is a shambles and our attack has every tool to cause it real damage.

Our wide players should give their fullbacks more than enough to think about and limit the support for their attacking players. Lukaku will score a header or two.

All the while our defence should limit their chances.

0-3

We allowed a dodgy Everton side to have 3 one on ones vs De Gea and we hardly looked rock solid that second half against Southampton either. Both teams caused us plenty of problems in midfield as well. I'm not sure why people are so convinced that our defense is solid...

Now we'll play against a Liverpool side with a Coutinho who gets to roam freely between our midfield and defense, with Mane, Firminio and Salah being more then capable of causing us problems at the back. Our ability to hold on to the ball without Pogba is limited when we're under pressure. We'll soon find out if our defense is solid or not.

I think Mourinho will push Fellaini higher up the pitch as an outlet.

Android1974 · Oct 1, 2017

Dazzmondo said:
Fellaini could also do the job and in reality if Pogba was fit Fellaini would start anyway. So if a player is man marking it would probably be Fellaini. Herrera might start but if Pogba was fit I doubt he'd be playing so I'm not convinced. Mata has also been very good this season so I don't think he's easily taken out of the team.

Mata was dropped for the 4-3-3 at Stoke, he'll be the first out if we abdicate possession.

Android1974 · Oct 1, 2017

Lawman said:
I can't believe anyone picks a team and actually wants Darmain to start!

I would, but on the other wing, where Mané is more dangerous.

goin4glory · Oct 1, 2017

People thinking we're going to press high and keep them in their own half must be delusional. Have you ever watched Mourinho play at anfield?

Android1974 · Oct 1, 2017

All 3 United said:
Their weakness is in defence. We should go with an attacking team and they simply won't be able to handle it.

Park the bus and we're playing into their hands.

This shouldn't even be our first real test, they look poor and are there for the taking.

This is a soak pressure/long balls game, if there ever was one. Mourinho was clear about how to deal with Ajax pressing, just skip midfield altogether.

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