How do we know he had a choice. Fergie pushed it and Woodward creamed himself for Ronaldo.
FA Premier League
Manchester United 1:3 Brighton & Hove Albion
Old Trafford
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- Sat, 16 September 2023 @ 3:00pm BST
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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His football is pretty dull though. Very much like Van Gaal from my memories of that time.
To be honest you could be on to something but I still think if all that was different a lot of them would still have another excuse to be a bunch of spineless and spoilt children.
Did you not see him in the back 4 trying to stops multiple attacks?
That's an entirely different debate, and unrelated to your comment about Hojlund coming off being "unacceptable". Do you take it back given now you know it was necessary?
I think they are a bit spoilt. They turn on or more switch off from managers at the drop of a hat. Although I am not sure what system we are trying to play. It is like put eleven players out there and hope it clicks. We should be a well drilled side by now.
Haha touche.
It seems like that over the pitch.
We have one player going Hollywood ball when we need composure, another taking on so many people when a pass might be a better option to keep up momentum, defending edge of the box
You’re right, the injury crisis and drama off the pitch are not ten Hag’s fault. However, his decisions today were baffling. When we went down 2 nil it was time to respond and make changes. Pellistri and Garnacho were decent enough options off the bench, which could have provided some sort of attacking outlet on the right. It was terrible management from ten Hag today.
He didn't. Ronaldo was clearly a club signing. Ole could do nothing about it. We had ex players getting involved as well.I wonder about how United we are now. I wonder how many people were stung by Ten Hag saying he was brought in to sort out the club's bad culture. He is having to rely on players who would have been hurt by those remarks.
We have lazy players. Hardly anybody willing to break a sweat to get into that position. And likewise the other way, their first goal we have people jogging back or just stopped runningBrighton better in every department.
Too many passengers in this team
Who cares, we lost.
Exactly and unfortunately that gives me slight concerns over the manager also. Going to be a very long season for sure.
Problem is the idiots running the club. No sane person will give half a billion to a manager who never bought players before.
We have a lot of injuries, he needs those players back and quick or unfortunately his job might be at risk.Nothing will change while the Glazers own the club
Observation of a pattern of misguided/brainless aggression? E.g. melee that ended in Case's red last year. Yeah, they chucked him to the boards, but the situation would have been quickly defused if he didn't rush in with his chest and start all that machoman bravado.
It doesn't work well for us. I don't want wimps, sure, but don't want out of control bellends turning games into fights, that's for relegation fodder and midtable sides. But then, it suits where we are I guess.
That is the point. Our owners just don't care. ETH did his best work with Marc Overmars at Ajax. Yet we have been silly enough to just let him chose who to buy in the main part. Without new owners nothing will change at all, that is what it is down to.
Precisely.
The adult thing to do here is to hold your hands up, admit you said something reactionary and inaccurate due to frustration. It's fair enough, happens to the best of us, but sticking to your guns over something you're clearly wrong about simply undermines any other potentially valid points you may raise.
He wasnt wrong. i remember when mourinho was sacked roy keane said that these players would throw the next manager under bus and guess what? they done it to Ole. the players have been cuddled by the club for far too long, it needs to stop.
Not sure. You always find 'injuries' when players are unhappy. And the drama off the pitch talks to whether we are looking at the personalities of the players we bring in. Greenwood, Antony and Ravel Morrison had-have major issues in their personal lives. But we also have had players with bad attitudes in the dressing room like Pogba and now Sancho.
Exactly what my hubby said
The adult thing to do is understand that someone doesn’t agree with you and move on. Hojlund should have stayed on.
The adult thing to do here is to hold your hands up, admit you said something reactionary and inaccurate due to frustration. It's fair enough, happens to the best of us, but sticking to your guns over something you're clearly wrong about simply undermines any other potentially valid points you may raise.
The club backed poisonous Pogba over Mourinho. One many many mistakes.
That’s why I won’t blame managers anymore. Every player at the club know that as well. So it’s an impossible job for the managers here.
The club think it’s enough to give money and leave the manager take all responsibilities. They are just throwing them into the bin one after an other. Instead of putting a coherent structure clear for everyone at the club, the owners and CEO are just making excuses : « look, we are giving a lot of money, it’s not our fault. » This fecking incompetence make me sick.
Ah rubbish. You're making serious inferences based on one incident. It was Casemiro who literally throttled a player immediately after, and he's had a glittering career. Antony has issues with his output at the moment, but his 'aggression' has nowt to do with it.
You aren't disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with a fact. Hojlund is carrying an injury, and can't play full matches at the moment, that's clear. So no, he shouldn't have, and stubbornly sticking to that opinion like a flat-earther means that the adult thing to do is safely disregard your opinions as those of someone who is incapable of altering them despite proof to the contrary.
I sometimes think we may be slightly blinded by the obsession with seeing the owners out. It is more about how the club is run but when it all comes down to it, yes, they pull all those strings. It is painful to have so much money spent by people who shouldn't have that power.
Make no mistake the money has been spent. But much of it might as well have been flushed down the toilet.
And it doesn't seem to matter who is in the dugout we are incapable of getting recruitment right.
The owners make the decisions about who spends that money, so it is down to them.
Turns out that knob ref gave us only 6, grrr.
So when teams don't press....
Opinions, everyone has one.
Where does this level of expectation come from? I’m presuming you watched us towards the end of last season and during pre season? There were zero signs we were capable of anything.
Oh I know - just cursing our luck
Apparently that idea never crossed anyone’s mind.
I believe a lot of those previous issues have been addressed and those personalities moved on apart from Martial. The issue now seems to be a lack of confidence and resilience. We seem to flounder and lack the fight when we go down or a moment doesn’t go our way. Fine it was another shit VAR call but a strong minded team will find a way to equalize before the half, instead we find ourselves down 3 nil in the 2nd half. No spine, confidence, leadership etc.
It’s really amateurish isn’t it.. you’re right, it can’t be just on the manager, 4 consecutive managers can’t just be telling our players to do whatever they like.. we’d do well to start targeting really disciplined players to try and turn the tide, also as a club as big as United they need to take a serious look at teams like Brighton and how they operate their football side, and maybe even poach their set up.. it worked for City when they essentially brought Barcelona to the premier leagueUnited weren’t good today. There are things to factor in: injuries and dressing room upheaval, even uncertainty around ownership. There will be improvements once key players are back. I looked forward to this … was mildly entertaining in the first half. Lady Luck seems to have checked out for us as well. I didn’t get back till it was 3-1. Brighton were alright, but didn’t look all conquering. Good that Bayern are up next. I still think highly of ETH. We go again.- Status
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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27%
Sergio Reguilon
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11%
Rasmus Hojlund
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6%
Marcus Rashford
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5%
Diogo Dalot
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1%
Bruno Fernandes
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1%
Andre Onana
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1%
Christian Eriksen
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1%
Lisandro Martinez
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 245 ratings.
Score Predictions
158,77,33
- Man Utd win
- Brighton win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 28% Man Utd 2:1 Brighton
- 10% Man Utd 3:1 Brighton
- 10% Man Utd 2:0 Brighton
- 10% Man Utd 1:2 Brighton
- 8% Man Utd 1:3 Brighton
- 6% Man Utd 2:2 Brighton
- 6% Man Utd 1:0 Brighton
- 6% Man Utd 1:1 Brighton
- 3% Man Utd 0:2 Brighton
- 3% Man Utd 3:0 Brighton
- 2% Man Utd 0:3 Brighton
- 2% Man Utd 2:3 Brighton
- 2% Man Utd 3:2 Brighton
- 1% Man Utd 0:1 Brighton
- 1% Man Utd 0:9 Brighton
- 1% Man Utd 0:4 Brighton
- 0% Man Utd 4:0 Brighton
- 0% Man Utd 0:0 Brighton
- 0% Man Utd 4:1 Brighton
- 0% Man Utd 5:1 Brighton
- 0% Man Utd 1:4 Brighton
- 0% Man Utd 0:5 Brighton
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Brighton
- Possession
- 43% 57%
- Shots
- 14 10
- Shots on Target
- 4 8
- Corners
- 8 1
- Fouls
- 8 9
Referee
Jarred Gillett
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Aaron Wan-Bissaka
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replaced by Alejandro Garnacho
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replaced by Hannibal Mejbri
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replaced by Facundo Pellistri
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replaced by Anthony Martial
