Manchester United 2:1 CSKA Moscow

Ballache · Dec 4, 2017

-----------------Romero------------------
-------Lindelöf-Smalling-Tuanzebe-------
Darmian-----------------------------Blind
------------Pogba-Fellaini---------------
-----------------Mikhi---------------------
----------Rashford---Lukaku-------------

Should be more than enough to get a draw at home.

doomy20 · Dec 4, 2017

I´d like to see our home record going on, so a win should be the only acceptable outcame here. Even our second string should easily beat CSKA

I´d like to see Pogba going the distance as he has a 3-week-break upcoming anyway.

Up front I´d love to see Rashford linking up with Ibra, feeded by Miki and Mata. Fellaini should get playtime as well to be prepared for the derby.

Maybe Lingard should be given a 20min spell as well, just to not put him out of his current run completely.

Make sure to rest all others (DDG, Valencia, Young, Romelu, CBs)

roonster09 · Dec 4, 2017

None of the players who will play against City should take part in this game. We have already played 5 games in 15 days (many of them played for their National teams too), so it's good time to rest before the start of very busy schedule starting from very difficult fixture against City (8 games in 21 days)

Lukaku, Martial and Smalling played 5 out of 5 games.
De Gea and Valencia played 4/5 games
Matic started 4 games and also played as sub in 5th game.
Young started 4 games.

So it's better to give all the first team players break, would go with

--------------------Romero
-------Tuanzebe - Lindelof - Blind

Darmian Pogba McTominay Shaw

----------------Mata*

---------Zlatan - Rashford

* or Mkhitaryan

Or we can just go with Blind in the midfield instead of McTominay and 4 at the back (will never happen though).

minoo-utd · Dec 4, 2017

We need some news on our injured players?

Hellboy · Dec 4, 2017

Expect muscular injuries if we play our full strenght team. Valencia, Smalling, Young, Matic, Martial and Lukaku should all be rested

roonster09 · Dec 4, 2017

minoo-utd said:
We need some news on our injured players?

Press conference at 2 PM, so we might hear something.

Bastian · Dec 4, 2017

------------------de Gea
Darmian----Lindelof--Rojo----Blind
----------Herrera-------Pogba
Mata------------Micky--------Rashford
-----------------Zlatan

McTominey and Tuanzebe to come on for Ander and Rojo if we are fine at HT. Probably Zlatan coming off around 60min, possibly for a non-scoring Rom who needs confidence.

MyOnlySolskjaer · Dec 4, 2017

Zlatan rested for this match.

groovyalbert · Dec 4, 2017

Romero; Darmian, Smalling, Lindelof, Blind; Herrera, McTominay, Pogba; Mata, Rashford, Lukaku.

4-3-3 and get Lukaku and Rashford back scoring. Also, let Pogba get forward as much as possible allowing Herrera marshal the midfield - needs to pick up form for the weekend.

Billy Jim · Dec 4, 2017

Sounds like quite a few changes - rest everyone pls Jose:

Romero
Darmian Lindelof Blind Shaw
Pogba McTominay
Mata Mkhitaryan Rashford
Zlatan

Kapardin · Dec 4, 2017

groovyalbert said:
Romero; Darmian, Smalling, Lindelof, Blind; Herrera, McTominay, Pogba; Mata, Rashford, Lukaku.

4-3-3 and get Lukaku and Rashford back scoring. Also, let Pogba get forward as much as possible allowing Herrera marshal the midfield - needs to pick up form for the weekend.

Ain't going with a 4-3-3 against a team like CSKA at home. We aren't gonna be thrashed.

Jose won't start McTominay. He will want to give some minutes to Mkhi to prove himself.

Mickson · Dec 4, 2017

All I want is to see Tuanzebe. Make it happen, José.

Havak · Dec 4, 2017

Main points that I think the presser has given us:

Romero starts in goal. Lindelof will start. Pogba will start. Zlatan will be on the bench, Shaw is in the squad. Matic and de Gea are not in the squad, nor Fellaini, Jones, or Bailly. Judging from this, squad is likely:

Romero
Pereira

Smalling
Lindelof
Rojo
Darmian
Blind
Shaw
Tuanzebe

Pogba
Herrera
McTominay
Mata
Mkhitaryan
Lingard

Lukaku
Ibrahimovic
Rashford
Martial

Young or Carrick potentially in, I am almost certain Valencia will be rested, he has been for most mid-week games and played every Premier League game so far.

Damien · Dec 4, 2017

I'd say team will be:

Romero

Darmian Smalling Lindelof Blind
Pogba Herrera
Rashford Mata Martial
Lukaku

Bench: Pereira Shaw Rojo Carrick/McTominay Lingard Mkhitaryan Zlatan

Maybe Mkhitaryan in the starting lineup but Martial has started every CL game so far. Don't think Zlatan is yet fit enough to start games. Martial, Herrera and Rashford the probable players subbed off.

pauldyson1uk · Dec 4, 2017

MyOnlySolskjaer said:
Zlatan rested for this match.

why ? he has only played a small part in the last few games, I think this is an ideal game for him to start, if he is fully match fit that is.

No Idea For Nickname · Dec 4, 2017

Havak said:
Main points that I think the presser has given us:

Romero starts in goal. Lindelof will start. Pogba will start. Zlatan will be on the bench, Shaw is in the squad. Matic and de Gea are not in the squad, nor Fellaini, Jones, or Bailly.
Young or Carrick potentially in, I am almost certain Valencia will be rested, he has been for most mid-week games and played every Premier League game so far.

Zlatan on the bench? Didn't see Jose' presser, but the quote was "not available for tomorow". Hope Luke plays, give Young some rest. Carrick might play too. Maybe what Jose said was a hint. So far I have 3/11 for CSKA game: Romero, Lindelof and Pogba. Val might get rest, agree. So Darmian? It will be nice to rest Lukaku too.

No Idea For Nickname · Dec 4, 2017

------------------Romero
Darmian----Lindelof--Rojo----Shaw
----------Herrera-------Pogba
Mata------------Micky--------Martial
-----------------Rashford

Maybe Smalling instead Rojo, too many games for him in short period of time?

MyOnlySolskjaer · Dec 4, 2017

pauldyson1uk said:
why ? he has only played a small part in the last few games, I think this is an ideal game for him to start, if he is fully match fit that is.

He's spent all summer rehabilitating, he started his training long before the club got back for pre-season. Mourinho says he's got some fatigue and is getting a break for this one and will be back straight after CSKA. (By the looks of things he was given a 2 week break)

Santoryo · Dec 4, 2017

Maradona10 said:
Mourinho wont change too much, he never does. He also loves the home record so, he wont want to lose no matter what. United 2-1 moscow .
Romero, bailly, lindelof,rojo, Blind, darmian, Pogba, mctominay, Mkhi, mata, Rashford.

So you say Mourinho won't change too much then you proceed to give an almost entirely changed line up.

oLeSoLsKjAeR20 · Dec 4, 2017

Santoryo said:
So you say Mourinho won't change too much then you proceed to give an almost entirely changed line up.

Treble · Dec 4, 2017

Rest as many players as possible. We'll get a good result anyway.

Havak · Dec 4, 2017

No Idea For Nickname said:
Zlatan on the bench? Didn't see Jose' presser, but the quote was "not available for tomorow". Hope Luke plays, give Young some rest. Carrick might play too. Maybe what Jose said was a hint. So far I have 3/11 for CSKA game: Romero, Lindelof and Pogba. Val might get rest, agree. So Darmian? It will be nice to rest Lukaku too.

I might have misheard, but I thought he said 'Zlatan is not ready'. I thought that meant he wasn't ready to start, but I didn't even realise he wasn't on the bench at Arsenal so you're probably right!

Gambit · Dec 4, 2017

Lukaku hat trick! You heard it here first.

pauldyson1uk · Dec 4, 2017

MyOnlySolskjaer said:
He's spent all summer rehabilitating, he started his training long before the club got back for pre-season. Mourinho says he's got some fatigue and is getting a break for this one and will be back straight after CSKA. (By the looks of things he was given a 2 week break)

fair enough , not seen that anywhere.

nemanja15 · Dec 4, 2017

Damien said:
I'd say team will be:

Romero

Darmian Smalling Lindelof Blind
Pogba Herrera
Rashford Mata Martial
Lukaku

Bench: Pereira Shaw Rojo Carrick/McTominay Lingard Mkhitaryan Zlatan

Maybe Mkhitaryan in the starting lineup but Martial has started every CL game so far. Don't think Zlatan is yet fit enough to start games. Martial, Herrera and Rashford the probable players subbed off.

Think this is quite likely but Shaw for Blind a possibility and Mkhitaryan as you say. Pretty certain Martial didn't start away at Benfica.

Treble · Dec 4, 2017

Would be madness not to rest Lukaku. He has played more than any other CF in the league. Zlatan isn't ready to replace him if something happens. This game means feck all. Even the U23 couldn't lose 0:5 or something.

bosnian_red · Dec 4, 2017

Romero
Tuanzebe Smalling Blind
Darmian Pogba Carrick Shaw
Mata Mkhitaryan
Rashford

Thinking this right now actually. Full rotation pretty much, apart from Smalling.

Mickson · Dec 4, 2017

bosnian_red said:
Romero
Tuanzebe Smalling Blind
Darmian Pogba Carrick Shaw
Mata Mkhitaryan
Rashford

Thinking this right now actually. Full rotation pretty much, apart from Smalling.

Carrick isn't ready according to Mourinho.

pauldyson1uk · Dec 4, 2017

Treble said:
Would be madness not to rest Lukaku. He has played more than any other CF in the league. Zlatan isn't ready to replace him if something happens. This game means feck all. Even the U23 couldn't lose 0:5 or something.

I have him on the bench.

whatwha · Dec 4, 2017

Matic won't be out just because he is rested, he's injured according to Mourinho.

Maradona10 · Dec 4, 2017

Santoryo said:
So you say Mourinho won't change too much then you proceed to give an almost entirely changed line up.

That is what i want the line up to be.

Gerald G · Dec 4, 2017

Romero
Darmian--Smalling--Tuanzebe--Shaw
Herrera--Pogba--McTominay
Mata--Rashford--Mkhitaryan

subs: Pereira, Rojo, Lindelof, Blind, Lingard, Martial, Lukaku

or

Romero
Tuanzebe--Smalling--Blind
Darmian--Herrera--Pogba--Shaw
Mata--Rashford--Mkhi

Canagel · Dec 4, 2017

whatwha said:
Matic won't be out just because he is rested, he's injured according to Mourinho.

What happened? He played the whole game against Arsenal. We can't afford Matic to miss City with Pogba already suspended. Let's hope it's nothing serious then.

Motorman · Dec 4, 2017

PoTMS said:
Yes H2H between all three teams. A mini-league gets created between United, Basel and CSKA if all three finish on 12 points and all results against Benfica are discounted.

At the moment, United’s GD is +5, Basel’s is -1 and CSKA’s is -4. Basel’s GD can’t be changed as they play against Benfica on MD6 so their result will have no impact on the mini-league. They could win 20-0 and it’d make no difference.

The game against United and CSKA does however count and so it would take a 7 goal swing for us to go out because we would have a lower GD than both Basel and CSKA. (CSKA +3, Basel -1, United -2)

Similarly, if we only lose by 4, we’d still be going through as our GD would be +1, and CSKA’s would be 0. In that case Basel, would instead go out as their GD of -1 would be less than both United and CSKA.

That's interesting. Feel a lot more confident now

Thanks a lot for the explanation.

whatwha · Dec 4, 2017

abdo99 said:
What happened? He played the whole game against Arsenal. We can't afford Matic to miss City with Pogba already suspended. Let's hope it's nothing serious then.

I don't know. He was an injury doubt ahead of the Arsenal game, maybe he aggravated something. We're quite screwed if we are without our two best midfielders against City.

tidraKS · Dec 4, 2017

We will definitely play with 4 at the back, as we need to rest someone from CBs. My pick:

Romero
Darmian--Lindelof--Smalling--Shaw
Herrera--Pogba
Mkhitaryan
Mata--Lukaku--Rashford

Class of 63 · Dec 4, 2017

Time to wrap Matic and Herrera in cotton wool with Sunday in mind, Antonio Valencia as well probably....

Romero
Darmian Tuanzebe Rojo Blind
McTominay Pogba
Mkhitaryan Mata Young
James Wilson

Pereira Lindelof Shaw Kehinde Rashford Lukaku Martial

BootsyCollins · Dec 4, 2017

Hope to see
---------------Romero--------------
Darmian---Victor--Tuanzebe--Shaw
----McTominay--Herrera--Pogba---
-Mata---------Rashford------Miky-

Giggsy92 · Dec 4, 2017

Romero
Darmian Lindelof Rojo Shaw
Herrera Pogba
Mata Mkhi Rashford
Lukaku

Subs: Pereira, Tuanzebe, Blind, McTominay, Lingard, Martial, Ibrahimovic

Rojo, Herrera and Lukaku will presumably all start the derby but I think all three could do with playing an hour or so. Playing Lukaku might be unnecessary but with Zlatan not fully fit it's not like we have too many other options up front.

Alabaster Codify7 · Dec 4, 2017

------------------------Romero------------------------
Darmian----------Smalling----Rojo-------------Blind
------------------Pogba------Herrera-----------------
Mata--------------Mkhitaryan--------------Rashford
---------------------Zlatan--------------------------

SUBS - Fellaini (Herrera), Lingard (Mata), Martial (Rashford)

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