FA Premier League

Manchester United 2:4 Liverpool

Old Trafford

Kick-off
Thu, 13 May 2021 @ 8:15pm BST
Status

Closed

Discussion Your Lineup Prediction

  • Status
    Not open for further replies.

    Pexbo

    Online influencer who has never watched Star Wars
    Joined
    Jun 2, 2009
    Messages
    54,978
    Location
    Brizzle
    Supports
    Big Days

    Here we go
    They’re going to be moaning about the shitty circumstances leading up to the game if they lose.

    At least I hope they are.
     

    VP89

    Pogba's biggest fan
    Joined
    Dec 6, 2015
    Messages
    19,172
    Are you sure if game doesn't go ahead this time then we won't be punished? Isn't it our responsibility to ensure that it goes ahead unless there is security scare which this isn't. If fans of a football club can get match postponed and that club receive no punishment for it then it sets a bad precedence. What is stopping other club fans to stop games knowing there won't be any punishment? Not sure there are rules to punish us this season but surely this can't go on without any consequence.
    It's our responsibility to ensure it starts on time unless there are elements out of control.

    Events by the public, be it fans or not, that happen miles away from the stadium is outside the club's control.
     

    Random Task

    WW Lynchpin
    Joined
    Feb 7, 2010
    Messages
    26,516
    Location
    Chester
    @VP89

    Also, it's not as if the club had no prior warning of the protests. They've had ample time to prepare security measures to guard against the protesting preventing the game from going ahead. But, unsurprisingly, they have been neglagent.
     

    VP89

    Pogba's biggest fan
    Joined
    Dec 6, 2015
    Messages
    19,172
    @VP89

    Also, it's not as if the club had no prior warning of the protests. They've had ample time to prepare security measures to guard against the protesting preventing the game from going ahead. But, unsurprisingly, they have been neglagent.
    Manchester United have not been negligent. Their remit is the staffing and procedures of their property which is Old Trafford. They have ensured their players turned up something like 2-3 hours earlier than planned.

    It's up to the Greater Manchester Police to ensure the security of players getting to the bus, and to deal with any matters along the way to the stadium. That's got nothing to do with the club itself. By the sounds of the latest developments, the Police did their job, and Liverpool did theirs with the decoy, so it's going ahead on time. But hypothetically if Liverpool didn't plan for any disruption or if the Police failed to escort the team bus adequately, that's not a punishment for Manchester United FC.
     

    pratyush_utd

    Full Member
    Joined
    Aug 30, 2017
    Messages
    3,439
    Not looking good

    And to say it's Liverpool responsibility to arrive early because some people would block their entry is ridiculous. It's our responsibility ( Club and police) to ensure away team reach ground before game. If we failed to inform them that they should have come earlier then it's our fault
     
    Joined
    Dec 21, 2014
    Messages
    9,853
    Location
    Manchester
    Henderson
    Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Bailly Shaw
    McTominay Fred
    Rashford Bruno Pogba
    Cavani​
     

    VP89

    Pogba's biggest fan
    Joined
    Dec 6, 2015
    Messages
    19,172
    I supported the first protest but if Utd ‘fans’ get this game cancelled as well I’m washing my hands of this glazier out movement. It’s just a ridiculous waste of time and frankly I don’t care who the owners are I just want to watch my team play football.
    Gotta listen to those wanting the armchair entertainment :lol:
     

    Sandikan

    aka sex on the beach
    Joined
    Mar 14, 2011
    Messages
    38,562
    Not looking good

    And to say it's Liverpool responsibility to arrive early because some people would block their entry is ridiculous. It's our responsibility ( Club and police) to ensure away team reach ground before game. If we failed to inform them that they should have come earlier then it's our fault
    Or they're much, much smarter than these protesters, and got in comfortably.
     

    lysglimt

    Full Member
    Scout
    Joined
    Jun 1, 2008
    Messages
    11,905
    At the start of the season I bet a friend that we would get more than 70 points in the league. If we lose tonight, I'll start getting nervous, even if losing to Fulham at home would be a decidedly moyesian achievement.
    We will beat either Fulham or Wolves, or quite likely both. But in fairness - I am not sure a bet with a mate is what would make mer nervous - unless the stakes are high :)
     

    pratyush_utd

    Full Member
    Joined
    Aug 30, 2017
    Messages
    3,439

    I hope nobody cross the line this time. Throwing smoke bomb at Police like that could make it ugly.
     

    The Oracle

    New Member
    Newbie
    Joined
    Jun 22, 2020
    Messages
    444
    Jose Mourinho reportedly seen in Manchester earlier today driving a wagon full of linen.

    The Liverpool team have successfully made it into the stadium without their journey being seen by anyone.

    Coincidence?
     

    Gasolin

    Full Member
    Joined
    Dec 22, 2007
    Messages
    5,797
    Location
    NYC
    It's our responsibility to ensure it starts on time unless there are elements out of control.

    Events by the public, be it fans or not, that happen miles away from the stadium is outside the club's control.
    Don't think we can defend that stance if it happens twice. But it looks like Liverpool players will be able to come.
     

    VP89

    Pogba's biggest fan
    Joined
    Dec 6, 2015
    Messages
    19,172
    Don't think we can defend that stance if it happens twice. But it looks like Liverpool players will be able to come.
    It's not a stance. There is a PL handbook and full guide which would state by the written laws as to what constitutes as a failed responsibility from the club, and police issues occurring miles outside of the property are not one of them.
     

    Random Task

    WW Lynchpin
    Joined
    Feb 7, 2010
    Messages
    26,516
    Location
    Chester
    Manchester United have not been negligent. Their remit is the staffing and procedures of their property which is Old Trafford. They have ensured their players turned up something like 2-3 hours earlier than planned.

    It's up to the Greater Manchester Police to ensure the security of players getting to the bus, and to deal with any matters along the way to the stadium. That's got nothing to do with the club itself. By the sounds of the latest developments, the Police did their job, and Liverpool did theirs with the decoy, so it's going ahead on time. But hypothetically if Liverpool didn't plan for any disruption or if the Police failed to escort the team bus adequately, that's not a punishment for Manchester United FC.
    I guess we'll find out before long as it's not looking good by all accounts. Sky could be exaggerating for effect, though.

    I'm all for the protesting so long as it doesn't affect the players or innocent bystanders not affiliated with the Glazers. I'm not entirely sure the flares and smoke bombs are necessary, for example.
     

    United Hobbit

    Full Member
    Joined
    Jan 20, 2019
    Messages
    3,245
    Presumably the game will go ahead as they've got those that are needed in the stadium?

    The only possible risks are ensuring people don't barge the gates and get into the stadium again in the middle of the game, and also Presumably there needs to be a safe emergency exit route in case an ambulance is needed?

    Wonder if the protestors will stand outside the stadium, and hope their chants are picked up on the TV footage?
     

    sebsheep

    Full Member
    Joined
    Jun 1, 2014
    Messages
    4,857
    Location
    Here
    Not looking good

    And to say it's Liverpool responsibility to arrive early because some people would block their entry is ridiculous. It's our responsibility ( Club and police) to ensure away team reach ground before game. If we failed to inform them that they should have come earlier then it's our fault
    Didn't we get moaned at when our bus got attacked by West Ham fans a couple of years back? Don't remember the home team getting into much trouble then.
     
    Status
    Not open for further replies.
Post-match discussion

Player Ratings

4.5 Total Average Rating

Highest Rated Player

Lowest Rated Player

Compiled from 229 ratings.

Score Predictions

103,26,37
  • Man Utd win
  • Liverpool win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 25% Man Utd 2:1 Liverpool
  • 14% Man Utd 1:1 Liverpool
  • 10% Man Utd 3:1 Liverpool
  • 10% Man Utd 2:0 Liverpool
  • 7% Man Utd 1:2 Liverpool
  • 5% Man Utd 2:2 Liverpool
  • 4% Man Utd 1:0 Liverpool
  • 4% Man Utd 4:1 Liverpool
  • 3% Man Utd 0:2 Liverpool
  • 2% Man Utd 0:0 Liverpool
  • 2% Man Utd 3:2 Liverpool
  • 2% Man Utd 5:0 Liverpool
  • 2% Man Utd 3:0 Liverpool
  • 2% Man Utd 0:1 Liverpool
  • 2% Man Utd 2:3 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 1:3 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 4:0 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 5:1 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 4:3 Liverpool
Compiled from 166 predictions.
Show more results Score Predictions League Table

Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Liverpool
Possession
53% 47%
Shots
18 17
Shots on Target
3 8
Corners
6 4
Fouls
10 12

Referee

Anthony Taylor