Manchester United 0:1 Real Sociedad

groovyalbert · Sep 6, 2022

theyneverlearn said:
Dubravka
Dalot Maguire Martinez Shaw
Casemiro Fred
Antony Bruno Rashford
Ronaldo
_____________________

Hard lineup to predict, I expect something like the above, 6 changes from the team that started Sunday, but looks very strong. Gives minutes to Casemiro and Antony to ready them for the weekend, plus keeps the others ticking over.

Wouldn't be surprised if Martinez is rested after coming off this weekend

angak · Sep 6, 2022

Why is no one talking about Rashford hamstring injury. He will be out for at least 3 weeks. Mark my words!

BusbyMalone · Sep 6, 2022

I'd change the entire back four for this game. Give the first-teamers a rest. And Eriksen definitely needs a rest. And who knows - maybe Donny will get a game.

peridigm · Sep 6, 2022

Valencia Shin Crosses said:
This is probably reasonable, except I think Elanga will be in over Rashford. And possibly resting Bruno. But everything else I think is accurate based on what I’ve seen.

It's our first EL game so I don't know how ETH will treat it as far as respect of the opposition. We could see Donny in for Bruno and as you said Elanga for Rashford. Any word on Martial's status? Could be fit enough to be used as a late sub for Ronaldo. I think we'll see Varane/Maguire or Lindelof/Maguire if Lindelof is fit. No idea on his status either.

DJ_21 · Sep 6, 2022

Don’t be surprised to see us not perform as well in this game. Apparently Maguire, and Shaw are gonna be recalled to give other players a rest. The first 11 that’s performing well in the league have had time to work together so will understand the system a lot more.

Houdini · Sep 6, 2022

SamVimes said:
If the rumours are true, you won't see Jones play for the first team again. Apparently he has been relegated to the U23 squad permanently.

Levi1 · Sep 6, 2022

Eriksen and Varane need a rest. But Maguire needs an extended period out. Martinez and Lindelof at center back.

Momochiru · Sep 6, 2022

@Niall can you add Zidane and remove Amad?

Momochiru · Sep 6, 2022

--------DDG
Dalot--Lindelof--Maguire--Malacia
-----Casemiro--Fred
Antony--Bruno---Sancho
------------Ronaldo

It's still very strong side, while giving minutes to Lindelof, Maguire, Casemiro, Fred, Antony and Ronaldo; Sancho hasn't been very fit, so he needs more minutes too. Dalot, Malacia, Bruno and Sancho to come off in the second half. I think it's too soon for Dubravka, maybe he can play next Thursday. Ronaldo will have chances to score.

hobbers · Sep 6, 2022

Dubravka
AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Casemiro Fred
Elanga Bruno Rashford
Ronaldo

Have to rest quite a few on Thursday. Hope we change the whole back 5, however hideous that defence is.

Martinez was hobbling at the end, Malacia and Dalot have put in an insane amount of work for the last 3 games. Varane also needs to be kept on ice for the Prem.

Casemiro should get his first start, probably alongside Fred.

TheReligion · Sep 6, 2022

hobbers said:
Dubravka
AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Casemiro Fred
Elanga Bruno Rashford
Ronaldo

Have to rest quite a few on Thursday. Hope we change the whole back 5, however hideous that defence is.

Martinez was hobbling at the end, Malacia and Dalot have put in an insane amount of work for the last 3 games. Varane also needs to be kept on ice for the Prem.

Casemiro should get his first start, probably alongside Fred.

Agree with most of this but would like to see Garnacho

Fortitude · Sep 6, 2022

diarm said:
Ronaldo, Casemiro and Varane waiting for the team bus on Wednesday night and wondering where the feck everyone else is?

Fortitude · Sep 6, 2022

Ajax fans, what was ten Hag like during congested periods of your season and the run of games around European competition? Did he rotate, and if yes, to what degree?

BeforeKeanetherewasRobson · Sep 6, 2022

Fortitude said:
Ajax fans, what was ten Hag like during congested periods of your season and the run of games around European competition? Did he rotate, and if yes, to what degree?

Going to be a huge challenge next month. Nine fixtures?! (and a lot tough/European games in there).

Hasnt made many bad decisions to date, hopefully carries on

bosnian_red · Sep 6, 2022

hobbers said:
Dubravka
AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Casemiro Fred
Elanga Bruno Rashford
Ronaldo

Have to rest quite a few on Thursday. Hope we change the whole back 5, however hideous that defence is.

Martinez was hobbling at the end, Malacia and Dalot have put in an insane amount of work for the last 3 games. Varane also needs to be kept on ice for the Prem.

Casemiro should get his first start, probably alongside Fred.

It'll be Antony with Elanga on the left so Antony can build fitness. Donny if fit will start too but probably Bruno.

RedDevilRoshi · Sep 6, 2022

Fortitude said:
Ajax fans, what was ten Hag like during congested periods of your season and the run of games around European competition? Did he rotate, and if yes, to what degree?

@AjaxCunian
@Terranova
@Amsterdam90s
@Thoms

Stobzilla · Sep 6, 2022

Dubravka

AWB
Lindelof
Maguire
Shaw

Casemiro (Savage '80)
Fred

Antony (Iqbal '80)
VdB
Elanga (Garnacho '70)

Ronaldo

Alemar · Sep 6, 2022

A-man said:
DDG
AWB Maguire Lindelof Shaw
Casemiro Fred
Antony Bruno Elanga
Ronaldo

Dubravka and Garnacho would be better

Somehow Zidane is not in the selection, whereas Amad is still in @Niall

dutchred · Sep 6, 2022

I think Diogo and Antony will play so they can start building an understanding. I think Elenga will start left with Garnacho coming on at some point

Dubravka
Diogo Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Casemiro (Savage)
Fred vd Beek (Iqbal)
Antony Ronaldo Elenga (Garnacho)

George The Best · Sep 6, 2022

Dubravka
Dalot Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Casemiro Fred DvdB
Antony Rashford Sancho

JustinC00 · Sep 6, 2022

Fortitude said:
Ajax fans, what was ten Hag like during congested periods of your season and the run of games around European competition? Did he rotate, and if yes, to what degree?

I looked at Ajax's schedule from last season to see if they had a similair run of games to get an idea of ETH's rotation. This was 3 games in 7 days and 1 was a CL match and they were 4 games into their season.

1st match CL
Pasveer, Blind, Martinez, Timber, Mazraoui, Alvarez, Gravenbach, Berghuis, Tadic, Antony, Haller

2nd match
Pasveer, Tagliafico(Blind came on at '60), Martinez, Timber, Mazraoui, Alavrez, Gravenbach, Berghuis, Tadic, Neres, Haller
(Antony was on the bench but wasn't used)

3rd match
Pasveer, Blind, Martinez, Schuurs, Mazraoui, Alvarez, Gravenbach, Berghuis, Tadic, Antony, Haller
(Timber was unfit)

So not much rotating.

Red the Bear · Sep 6, 2022

I'm hoping for a big scoreline here but they're no pushovers and besides, Spanish teams always seem to be our kryptonite so wouldn't be surprised if we lost.

Coming first doesn't really matter in Europa so as long as we qualify for the knockouts its ok.

AjaxCunian · Sep 6, 2022

RedDevilRoshi said:
@AjaxCunian
@Terranova
@Amsterdam90s
@Thoms

Ajax was usually playing CL, very important matches so not much rotation. If they were playing EL, it was knockouts.

This is a new situation.

Robindinho · Sep 6, 2022

Dubravka

Dalot Maguire Lindelof Shaw

Casemiro Fred

Bruno

Antony Ronaldo Elanga

Donny to start instead of Bruno if he's fit... Garnacho and Iqbal off the bench hopefully.

Thoms · Sep 7, 2022

RedDevilRoshi said:
@AjaxCunian
@Terranova
@Amsterdam90s
@Thoms

He didn’t rotate during the CL runs mate. I do think however with the packed schedule he will rotate for the EL a lot.

Doracle · Sep 7, 2022

I’d go with:

DDG

Dalot
Maguire
Martinez (if fit)
Shaw

Casemiro
Fred

Antony
Bruno
Sancho

Ronaldo

Longshanks · Sep 7, 2022

Dubrakva
A.W.B Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Casemerio Fred
Elanga V.D.B garnacho
Ronaldo

3-1 to United.

klsv · Sep 7, 2022

Sociedad are a Spanish team, good enough to reach Europe from La Liga. We don't want to play our second string against this lot. Lose this and our mentality monsters will need to be highly motivated against the weaker sides in our group, which from previous years' experience, doesn't seem to come too easy for them. Strong squad, rotate a few players who have featured in all the matches, rest can still play. We're six games into the season, should be fit enough. Can't imagine it's 2008 and we expect Fergie to rest the entire starting eleven. Need to win this shite cup.

PeteManic · Sep 7, 2022

De Gea
Dalot Maguire Lindelof Shaw
Casemiro Fred
Sancho Bruno Elanga
Ronaldo

2 man midfield · Sep 7, 2022

Dubravka

Wan Bissaka
Lindelof
Maguire
Shaw

Casemiro
Fred
Van De Beek

Elanga
Ronaldo
Garnacho

Olecurls99 · Sep 7, 2022

Dubravka
Bissaka
Maguire
Lindelof
Shaw
Casemiro
Fred
Donny
Antony
Sancho
Ronaldo

That teams more than good enough to win and it gives players minutes and our starters a rest

mitchmouse · Sep 7, 2022

Not going to predict the score but it's so nice not to be dreading watching United play (let's hope that doesn't jinx things). Can't see ETH making wholesale changes (a few possibly, four or five at most I'd guess) because I'd like to think he is targeting this trophy and Sociedad can't be underestimated even though they'v had a very ordinary start to their season

BrilliantOrange · Sep 7, 2022

TheReligion said:
Agree with most of this but would like to see Garnacho

He didnt rotate much, especially not in Europa.. But that was ofcourse because we were in the Champions League and we needed to be top every CL game.. He rotated a bit in the Eredivisie, but not much. What he often did though was in our Cup games rotate everyone..

I therefore see him going for the below option ór rotating no-one rather than him rotating 4 or 5 players..

Dubravka
AWB Lindelof Maguire Malacia
Casemiro Fred
Elanga Donny Garnacho
Ronald

But yeah we'll see.. I could be way off haha

Terranova · Sep 7, 2022

Fortitude said:
Ajax fans, what was ten Hag like during congested periods of your season and the run of games around European competition? Did he rotate, and if yes, to what degree?

Ten Hag and rotating :lol:

Ten Hag only has like 11 players he trust and that number grows a bit when someone get injured and the replacement plays well. Only when he has more than 11 players he'll sub between those. At Ajax he always made the same subs, every match. So not even a little rotation

horsechoker · Sep 7, 2022

Is the prematch presser at 11:45 BST?

Fortitude · Sep 7, 2022

Terranova said:
Ten Hag and rotating
Ten Hag only has like 11 players he trust and that number grows a bit when someone get injured and the replacement plays well. Only when he has more than 11 players he'll sub between those. At Ajax he always made the same subs, every match. So not even a little rotation

Thanks to you and the others who provided info.

So do you think he'll continue with this approach at United, or that he'll respect the intense demands of the calender?

Pavl3n · Sep 7, 2022

groovyalbert said:
Wouldn't be surprised if Martinez is rested after coming off this weekend

I think coming off was his rest. And the little minutes for Maguire were so he can have some game time before playing a full game this Thursday.
I think Varane will be rested, or at least I hope so. He's injury prone and I hope he's well managed.

Up top I expect to see Antony and Ronaldo starting, Casemiro and Fred also.
For the rest I can't be sure.

Fabio Rochemback · Sep 7, 2022

I'd like to see this:
DDG

AWB
Lindelof
Maguire
Shaw

Casemiro
Fred
Bruno

Antony
Ronaldo
Garnacho

I think there's very little chance Garnacho starts over Elanga though. DDG probably won't play too.

Redderp · Sep 7, 2022

Red the Bear said:
Coming first doesn't really matter in Europa so as long as we qualify for the knockouts its ok.

I’m pretty sure it matters a lot. As i understand it getting first in groups means you skip a round. The runners up in groups have to play an extra game against the third places in the CL groups. So not only do you enter later in the knockout phase, but you also get to play the last game at home. So you get advantages until you reach the quarter finals.

Correct me if i’m wrong, but getting first in groups is huge.

YikesSchmeics · Sep 7, 2022

With the schedule as it is, momentum as it is and as such ETH possibly wanting to keep going with the continuity, combined with the need to get match fitness into a lot of players, I expect to see a heavily rotated team.

Dubravka
AWB Maguire Martinez / Lindelof (fit?) Shaw
Casemiro Fred
Antony Donny Elanga
Ronaldo

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