Manchester United 0:1 Real Sociedad

Telsim · Sep 7, 2022

High chances Dalot starts considering he was at the press conference alongside Ten Hag?

Red the Bear · Sep 7, 2022

Redderp said:
I’m pretty sure it matters a lot. As i understand it getting first in groups means you skip a round. The runners up in groups have to play an extra game against the third places in the CL groups. So not only do you enter later in the knockout phase, but you also get to play the last game at home. So you get advantages until you reach the quarter finals.

Correct me if i’m wrong, but getting first in groups is huge.

I checked and no one seemed to get a pass for one round so doesn't seem like it.

Maybe they changed it recently.

Pavl3n · Sep 7, 2022

Redderp said:
I’m pretty sure it matters a lot. As i understand it getting first in groups means you skip a round. The runners up in groups have to play an extra game against the third places in the CL groups. So not only do you enter later in the knockout phase, but you also get to play the last game at home. So you get advantages until you reach the quarter finals.

Correct me if i’m wrong, but getting first in groups is huge.

First time I hear that.

Redderp · Sep 7, 2022

Red the Bear said:
I checked and no one seemed to get a pass for one round so doesn't seem like it.

Maybe they changed it recently.

I think they changed it last season when they also introduced the conference league. I think it’s to incentivize getting first place in groups, sorta like how you also get CL if you win EL. More reason to not coast in the EL matches and to award teams that take the competition seriously.

Gator Nate · Sep 7, 2022

DeGea
Dalot - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
Casemiro - Fred
Antony - Bruno - Rashford
Ronaldo

Subs: Sancho - van de Beek - McTominay

MyOnlySolskjaer · Sep 7, 2022

Getting serious Goldmember vibes in this tracksuit.

Red the Bear · Sep 7, 2022

Redderp said:
I think they changed it last season when they also introduced the conference league. I think it’s to incentivize getting first place in groups, sorta like how you also get CL if you win EL. More reason to not coast in the EL matches and to award teams that take the competition seriously.

Yeah, you're right in which case let's hope we do get first.

TheRedDevil'sAdvocate · Sep 7, 2022

Pavl3n said:
First time I hear that.

It's true, though. The 8 winners of their respective groups will automatically qualify for the R16, and the other 8 spots will be decided after a knock-out round, in which the 8 runners-up will face the 8 third-placed clubs from the CL groups.

kundalini · Sep 7, 2022

kundalini said:
Next day after a match you'd normally see players who started either doing recovery or very light training, while subs and not involved train more seriously.

No sign of Shaw, Martial, Wan-Bissaka, Van de Beek in Monday's training pics or video.

Zidane Iqbal and Garnacho were training with Ronaldo, Fred, Casemiro, Lindelof, Elanga, Maguire.

Jones and Brandon Williams are not on United's A list for the Europa League group stage due to the timeframes of their respective injuries. Pellistri and Tuanzebe are included so could feature when fit.

No sign of Shaw, Martial or Van de Beek in Wednesday's training, according to article (+ video) on official website. I think you can reasonably assume they will miss Thursday's match as they didn't train with the group on Monday either.

Zidane Iqbal and Garnacho again training with first team group. Also Mainoo, Fredricson and McNeil.

My guess would be a largely rotated team but with PL starters filling in for the missing Shaw and Van de Beek and Antony getting another start. Not sure about keeper. I expect Iqbal and Garnacho to be on the bench, with a reasonable chance of getting mins.

lex talionis · Sep 7, 2022

For all the reasons discussed already here, it's important to start a strong squad and get the home win over the toughest opponent in this group. When it comes to rest, I always think of midfielders first as they do the most work on the pitch. Eriksen clearly needs to sit this one out. So Fred on for Eriksen and Casemiro on for McTominay. I'd stick with Bruno. Assume Martinez is out so Maguire. And yeah, Shaw for Malacia.

RedIan · Sep 7, 2022

Shaw hasnt trained doubt hes playing

DJ_21 · Sep 7, 2022

lex talionis said:
For all the reasons discussed already here, it's important to start a strong squad and get the home win over the toughest opponent in this group. When it comes to rest, I always think of midfielders first as they do the most work on the pitch. Eriksen clearly needs to sit this one out. So Fred on for Eriksen and Casemiro on for McTominay. I'd stick with Bruno. Assume Martinez is out so Maguire. And yeah, Shaw for Malacia.

Martinez was in training today. But ye id leave him out for this one. I’d go with Elanga, Bruno, Antony and Ronaldo as the front 4. Antony needs more minutes so maybe give him 60 mins then sub him of. Agree that eriksen needs a rest and Casemiro needs minutes so he should 100% start.

MyOnlySolskjaer · Sep 7, 2022

Telsim said:
High chances Dalot starts considering he was at the press conference alongside Ten Hag?

Amount of times I used to see Herrera go to press conferences with Van Gaal and Mourinho and not even be in the squad. Sometimes it's just someone who's not remotely controversial and good with media.

Samid · Sep 7, 2022

RedDevilRoshi · Sep 7, 2022

Samid said:

Who’s that in front of Eriksen?

Samid · Sep 7, 2022

RedDevilRoshi said:
Who’s that in front of Eriksen?

Tyler Fredricson

BorisManUtd · Sep 7, 2022

Wanted to say it'll be Januzaj back at Old Trafford again just like 2 seasons ago but he actually joined Sevilla last Wednesday from Sociedad.

NLunited · Sep 8, 2022

No one has Eriksen in their line ups. He injured?

MyOnlySolskjaer · Sep 8, 2022

NLunited said:
No one has Eriksen in their line ups. He injured?

A lot of people think he's fragile. When in fact he is our best runner.

Pronewbie · Sep 8, 2022

NLunited said:
No one has Eriksen in their line ups. He injured?

Rested.

the_cliff · Sep 8, 2022

Gator Nate said:
DeGea
Dalot - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
Casemiro - Fred
Antony - Bruno - Rashford
Ronaldo

Subs: Sancho - van de Beek - McTominay

That's a good lineup, would like to see Iqbal for Bruno but I reckon DVB will probably start.

NLunited · Sep 8, 2022

Pronewbie said:
Rested.

Who says? I say he plays tomorrow.

Ibi Dreams · Sep 8, 2022

Ten Hag's first real test

Kidding aside I don't get people writing this off. Top 4 is absolutely not guaranteed and we really should be able to win this cup.

De Gea
Dalot Martinez Lindelof Malacia
Casemiro Fred
Bruno
Antony Ronaldo Sancho

tenpoless · Sep 8, 2022

RedDevilRoshi said:
Who’s that in front of Eriksen?

Tiny head version of Maguire
Magtiny

city-puma · Sep 8, 2022

Ibi Dreams said:
Ten Hag's first real test

Kidding aside I don't get people writing this off. Top 4 is absolutely not guaranteed and we really should be able to win this cup.

De Gea
Dalot Martinez Lindelof Malacia
Casemiro Fred
Bruno
Antony Ronaldo Sancho

Need to play the no.2 goalkeeper.

Ole'sattheWheel · Sep 8, 2022

—————Dubravka
AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw

—————-Casemiro
———-Iqbal————Fred

Elanga ——————— Garnacho
———————CR7

Desert Eagle · Sep 8, 2022

Ole'sattheWheel said:
—————Dubravka
AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw

—————-Casemiro
———-Iqbal————Fred

Elanga ——————— Garnacho
———————CR7

That would be my preferred lineup too.ETH will probably put mctom in for Zidane though.

nau05194 · Sep 8, 2022

Samid said:

Scott McTominay was leading that part of training I think. It reminded me of when I was in the Army and one of the gym queens (not me) would take part of a session.

GreatDane · Sep 8, 2022

I expect to see:

Dubravka
Dalot Maguire Martinez Shaw

Casemiro Fred
DVB

Antony Elanga
Ronaldo

I want to see Iqbal and Garnacho

In Rainbows · Sep 8, 2022

NLunited said:
Who says? I say he plays tomorrow.

It's just people's preference given that he's 30. Not that he's old, but he's not 23.

I can understand why people would prefer to save his legs for the PL.

Dans · Sep 8, 2022

I say play strongest team. Winning this competition is much easier than winning the prem and provides a CL berth.

JJ12 · Sep 8, 2022

Real Sociedad means Royal Society apparently

red_de_pologne · Sep 8, 2022

My prediction

DDG
AWB Maguire Martinez Malacia
Casemiro
Fred Bruno
Antony Ronaldo Elanga

giggs-beckham · Sep 8, 2022

Dubravka

AWB Maguire Lindelof Shaw

Zidane Casemiro Fred

Antony Ronaldo Garnacho

NoPace · Sep 8, 2022

red_de_pologne said:
My prediction

DDG
AWB Maguire Martinez Malacia
Casemiro
Fred Bruno
Antony Ronaldo Elanga

I agree. Don't think Ten Hag will want to risk a really bad result, but rests for Dalot (young but we don't trust his backup), Eriksen, Varane, Sancho and Rashford make sense.

The 4th place team in the group finished 7th in Cyprus last year so that should be 2 games we can play an entirely 2nd XI and win, so it's really just 4 extra games (presume Sheriff are dangerous after their win vs Madrid last year) and if we finish 2nd to Sociedad in the group, which is probably only slightly less likely than us winning it, that's 2 tough extra games against a 3rd place CL team (right now that's Liverpool/Napoli/Ajax, Brugge, Inter, Marseille/Frankfurt, Salzburg, Leipzig, Sevilla and Benfica/Juve so odds are a tough matchup.

Could also split the difference a bit and use Sancho or Antony for a half each.

Troozi · Sep 8, 2022

Ibi Dreams said:
Ten Hag's first real test

Kidding aside I don't get people writing this off. Top 4 is absolutely not guaranteed and we really should be able to win this cup.

De Gea
Dalot Martinez Lindelof Malacia
Casemiro Fred
Bruno
Antony Ronaldo Sancho

Agreed!

This is probably the team I would put out too.

I love that I'm excited for match days again.

SoCross · Sep 8, 2022

There’s an article in the guardian about a Martin Zubimendi who’s at Real Sociedad - apparently a player who closely resembles Xabi Alonso.

Any regular La Liga viewers have any opinion on him?

horsechoker · Sep 8, 2022

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/deta...ign=ManUtd&utm_medium=post&utm_source=twitter
ERIK'S MATCHDAY Q&A IN FULL

Firstly Erik is there any team news and can we expect to see Anthony Martial back?

"No, Martial is not back. He’s progressing which we’re happy with, but he’s not ready to come in the games."

Four wins in a row – what do you think has changed in those matches and how pleased have you been with the performances and results?

"We are progressing but that is already behind us, we must look forward to the next game. And we are looking forward to it."

It’s matchday one of six, so it’s not as pressurised as a knockout game, but nevertheless how important is it to make a big impact in the first game?

"Huge because as you said it’s the first game in the group stage. We want to win every game and in the group stage we have to get into the top two [positions] to get to the next stages. So the first win is really important."

You’ve had lots of experience in Europe – do you enjoy European games?

"Always. European nights are always special. It’s great to compete with good clubs from different clubs with different styles and systems. I’m really looking forward to it."

What kind of game do you expect when you go up against a team from La Liga?

"Spanish football is always really skilful and technical and you see the great abilities of the players. You have to be aware of that and make a good plan to fight them and to win that game."

You mentioned about the different teams and styles you face in Europe - how much do you look forward to that challenge and how much does it help the team to face those different tests?

"It’s always good for the development of the team to face different systems and styles and to find answers and solutions. We come into Europe now and into the next phase of the season and it will help us as a team and we will get better from it and improve."

What is the next test for your players? Their effort and attitudes are very good, they’re starting games better, they’re scoring nice team goals, they’re tougher to score against – what do you want to see next?

"There is still a lot to work on. You see that in the games and the results are good because we are hard to beat in this moment and we must keep that going. That attitude as a team and supporting each other is really important to be successful, but of course when you see the games you can see we can improve a lot still in all moments – possession, building up play into attack and into the final third, from the transition, defending the pressing… there is still a lot to do. But from game to game we will improve, I’m sure of that."

DRJosh · Sep 8, 2022

Think Erikson will start. He is our main creative outlet beyond Bruno

Real Name · Sep 8, 2022

Is Ericssen starting this one?

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