Lingard gifted coats and few other items to Whalley Range afc

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People calling him for giving stuff to a football team, maybe he shouldn’t have done it then he wouldn’t get all this abuse by so called fans. Feck the kids.

Ties in with some of the abuse Young gets by our fan base, personally I don’t consider any of you united fans and would love for you to go and support someone else.

If you really hate someone because they don’t play well for your football team then you need to grow up. I understand not thinking he’s good enough but hating him when you don’t even know him is ridiculous, I’m from the same town as Jesse and know for a fact he does a lot more for charity and local communities than you will hear about online.
 
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stepic said:
He gave £38 equivalent and got filmed doing it. If you think that’s worthy of praise and adoration then so be it. Lots of people give more than that to charity earning a hell of a lot less and they’re not marketing their own brand by doing so. People get suckered in by pound values way too much. He’s a freaking millionaire, this is small change to him.

If you base things on pure financials only, then someone donating 0.2% of their weekly income to charity is more generous than someone giving 20% just because they happen to earn more money by doing some arbitrary thing. That’s ridiculous.
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What other people give and how little they earn compared to Lingard doesn't make his gift any less worthy of praise. I also don't see anyone wanting to throw him a parade for what he did, pretty much everyone who is able to see the positive in this have barely gone above a "that's nice".
 

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He gave away some kit, and the lads in the non-league team had a good time meeting him. There's nothing wrong with any of that.

Lingard is obviously no Einstein, but he's a footballer, not a scientist. He's done nothing wrong by making a kind gesture.
 

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Penna said:
He gave away some kit, and the lads in the non-league team had a good time meeting him. There's nothing wrong with any of that.

Lingard is obviously no Einstein, but he's a footballer, not a scientist. He's done nothing wrong by making a kind gesture.
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Exactly.

Honestly if you have an issue with this you are a utter pr*ck.
 

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Nick7 said:
[Irrelevant point] actually did kill someone, through his own negligence. Yet most posts on here are positive about him.

Lingard posts images and videos of him having fun on Instagram. Yet most posts about him are about how much of a "dickhead" he is.

Weird, that.
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Most posts are calling him shit or a murderer or making jokes about him being a drink driver.

I'm not complaining about negative posts by the way but to say "most posts are positive" is the most wrong statement in the history of language.
 

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Some utterly miserable bastards about! I'm no lingard fan, I think he sucks as a player and is an irritating little shit, but he is a decent lad under all that, who regularly does decent things for fans and the community, and all credit to him for it.
Flytan said:
That's not just limited to charities and rich people. Not a single person on earth does it for any reason other than to make themselves feel good.
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Rish Sawhney said:
Everyone is selfish and self absorbed. The difference is that some are honest and others deny this for a false sense of virtue.
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First of all that's utter shit, and how arrogant are you to claim to know the intentions and motivations if everyone on earth?
 

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stepic said:
I find the platitudes a little much. He’s on what, £100k a week? Which is roughly what you would earn in 2 years on a pretty decent salary. That’s something like £750 a week.

What’s the cost of the kit and stuff? £2k? Let’s say it’s £5k for kicks. That’s the equivalent of giving £38 to charity.

Add to that they’re wearing his brand and he’s being photographed for doing it. What a hero.

Working class people give far more than this millionaire, comparatively speaking. And do it anonymously. They are the heroes.
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Oh shut up.
 

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Rish Sawhney said:
That doesn't make it not selfish. I may give my life to protect my country or my child, but that's a completely selfish act as well. Anyways my point wasn't to diminish what Lingard did - it was a response to the people criticizing Lingard saying he's doing this as a selfish act for publicity. I think this was a genuinely nice thing to do - he really doesn't get much out of it apart from a couple of nice tweets but those people were probably helped a lot - but its not really that altruistic.
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Debating altruism. An absolutely pointless thought experiment that doesn't make you look any wiser.
 

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Great stuff from Lingard.
This on top of the story posted last page about the kid, and the part last season or the one before where he went to hotel football and bought a round for every fan there.
And that's just the things I have seen in the media, I'm sure he does a lot more than that.

I tend to not write much about Jesse because I don't rate the footballer and I don't care for twitter or Instagram, but there is no doubt that he is a huge positive for the people he interacts with.
 

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He's trying to whitewash his image. This probably cost him a couple of hundred quid, in the mean time he's made £70k this week. If he keeps doing this for a couple more years so that people ignore his football he'll retire rich. It's like Mata and his common goal charity. No different really to what Qatar and Abu Dhabi are trying to do with PSG and Man City.
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marktan said:
He's trying to whitewash his image. This probably cost him a couple of hundred quid, in the mean time he's made £70k this week. If he keeps doing this for a couple more years so that people ignore his football he'll retire rich. It's like Mata and his common goal charity. No different really to what Qatar and Abu Dhabi are trying to do with PSG and Man City.
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The difference between a joke and trolling is that the former is funny. There's enough nonsense on this forum without this kind of mindless white text gag every other post.
 

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The difference between a joke and trolling is that the former is funny. There's enough nonsense on this forum without this kind of mindless white text gag every other post.
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As opposed to the posts being genuinely annoyed at a bit of charity. Right. My bad.
 

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That's the thing. It used to be that nobody cares about your Friday or any other night. But now if you wind up on social media having sex with a blow up doll, mouthing off to a police officer of show up to a costume party in offensive attire your employer is entitled to fire or reprimand you. That's the reality of this digital era with cameras everywhere. And it is more responsibility on public figures like athletes. You may disagree about whether it's pertinent and okay for an employer to react to an employee's life outside of work if it's not directly affecting it. In the end it's a club matter, the rest of our opinions are like I noted 'to each their own'

Also, thank you for having a very reasonable and appropriate opinion. I was worried it might be another numpty telling me I can't get annoyed with anything Jesse does because Marcus Alonso killed someone in a DUI incident.
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Why would Alonso killing someone while being drunk have anything to do with your ability to get annoyed with Jesse? If anything Alonso's actions should help us all to see that there is a line between enjoying yourself and going too far. Driving while under the influence is always going too far in my opinion.

I feel that doing something that could potentially cause others harm is always overstepping the mark, either physically or mentally but doing something that is in bad taste but isn't going to hurt someone else should be okay.

On a side I would never bad mouth or constabulary because I have family members who serve our country diligently while receiving dogs abuse in response for their efforts.
 

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WireMUFC said:
People calling him for giving stuff to a football team, maybe he shouldn’t have done it then he wouldn’t get all this abuse by so called fans. Feck the kids.

Ties in with some of the abuse Young gets by our fan base, personally I don’t consider any of you united fans and would love for you to go and support someone else.

If you really hate someone because they don’t play well for your football team then you need to grow up. I understand not thinking he’s good enough but hating him when you don’t even know him is ridiculous, I’m from the same town as Jesse and know for a fact he does a lot more for charity and local communities than you will hear about online.
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Young's abuse always has and will turn my stomach. He try's his hardest every time he goes on the pitch whether he is good enough is up for debate. Young is not and has never been the manager so doesn't pick himself to play for United so how is it his fault that he is on the pitch?
 

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Why would Alonso killing someone while being drunk have anything to do with your ability to get annoyed with Jesse? If anything Alonso's actions should help us all to see that there is a line between enjoying yourself and going too far. Driving while under the influence is always going too far in my opinion.

I feel that doing something that could potentially cause others harm is always overstepping the mark, either physically or mentally but doing something that is in bad taste but isn't going to hurt someone else should be okay.

On a side I would never bad mouth or constabulary because I have family members who serve our country diligently while receiving dogs abuse in response for their efforts.
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Ah I thought you had seen the previous responses and the crap I was replying to. My involvement in this thread goes back to me saying something along the lines of, I hope we hear more of such things from Jesse and less of the nonsense. And that things like that Snapchat video are frustrating to see. I was warmly greeted by one caftard that felt I had no right to be frustrated with Jesse in any way when Alonso was out there, a killer playing football. Out of the blue (no pun intended). When I said it was a ridiculous, non sequiter, another jumped in defending Jesse's social media indiscretions with Alonzo's DUI manslaughter.

@Nick7 @Inigo Montoya I saw someone put a glass bottle into the regular trash instead of recycling. But I let it go because at least he didn't drive drunk like Alonso. Beans. That's how to do it, right? Beans. How to be a clown? Beans.
 

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He's done plenty of stuff like this before for other clubs & just being generally decent to people. The rush to see the negativity in everything or put a negative spin on positive things these days is a joke. If people don't like him as a footballer then fine but this desire some seem to have to demonize him & anything he does is bizarre.
 

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stepic said:
He gave £38 equivalent and got filmed doing it. If you think that’s worthy of praise and adoration then so be it. Lots of people give more than that to charity earning a hell of a lot less and they’re not marketing their own brand by doing so. People get suckered in by pound values way too much. He’s a freaking millionaire, this is small change to him.

If you base things on pure financials only, then someone donating 0.2% of their weekly income to charity is more generous than someone giving 20% just because they happen to earn more money by doing some arbitrary thing. That’s ridiculous.
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Christ. Pathetic post.
 

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Fully Fledged said:
Young's abuse always has and will turn my stomach. He try's his hardest every time he goes on the pitch whether he is good enough is up for debate. Young is not and has never been the manager so doesn't pick himself to play for United so how is it his fault that he is on the pitch?
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People let their frustrations get the better of themselves unfortunately and the less talented players end up taking the brunt of it.
 

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People often slate others for sharing a picture of themselves doing some charity work and helping others, as if it was purely done to show how nice they are, and ok with a high profile person there may be an element of PR, but consider that a) it's far better than people sharing selfies, paid ads etc. This has much more value. If someone's allowed to share those things they're surely allowed to share when they do something good, and b) it influences others to help where they can too.

I know this first hand from putting a picture and some words up about a dog rescue charity I've volunteered with. Multiple people showed interest and asked how they can get involved and maybe others saw it and thought about doing something similar. It's not the same as videoing yourself giving a homeless person some food or something.
 

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Flytan said:
That's not just limited to charities and rich people. Not a single person on earth does it for any reason other than to make themselves feel good.
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Even if there is a feel good aspect to charity, why are you inferring it's wrong that people choose to feel good by helping others? Surely that's a fantastic thing for everyone?
 

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With Lingard, it's always polemic. I thought some of the criticism was tongue-in-cheek but some caftards are dead serious :lol:
Publicity stunt or not, I don't care, these things are nice. Don't let the (legitimate or not) dislike for the footballer poison your brain
 

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VeevaVee said:
Even if there is a feel good aspect to charity, why are you inferring it's wrong that people choose to feel good by helping others? Surely that's a fantastic thing for everyone?
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Didn't say it was. Just saying the person who was singling out celebrities about it.
 

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He could donate an organ and someone would pipe up with, "Yeah, but it's not like he donated both kidneys..."

And we all know what shape kidneys are.
 

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Sterling Archer said:
If you look back to what I quoted, it's a poster expecting people to find fault with Jesse for this. That's a bit melodramatic. And I'm merely emphasizing that the criticism of Jesse's off the field persona and the questionable news about him warrant the fuss.

As for his age, technically Lingard is in his 27th year of existence. So saying he's 26 not 27 (especially when it's 26 and almost 9 months) is kind of pointless mate :)
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He's 26 til he's 27
 
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