Romelu Lukaku claims he was scapegoated with two other players at Manchester United

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Thats ironic tbh as there inst a bigger cry baby than him.
Yeah, he was constantly giving it large about how determined he is and how he is a grown ass man. The fact that Pogba who even now still get along with Morrison couldn’t find it in himself to wish his former ‘bestie’ luck after a mere 2 years playing together is proof enough how toxic he is.
 

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There's no real connection between the 3 he's mentioned. Pogba definitely has been a scapegoat at times but Sanchez? People have basically forgotten about him. He was given about a years worth of 'maybe he'll come good now' before going straight to forgotten, there was no real scapegoating of him at any point. Most players have been scapegoated at one point or another in recent years, so you could pick out pretty much any 3. Lukaku is closer to Fellaini really, he wasn't a very good player so was never going to be that popular. I grew to like Fellaini though for the same reasons I'm growing to dislike Lukaku.
I think the connection is that he's Lukaku's best buddy and they both have an axe to grind for some reason.
 

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Yeah, he was constantly giving it large about how determined he is and how he is a grown ass man. The fact that Pogba who even now still get along with Morrison couldn’t find it in himself to wish his former ‘bestie’ luck after a mere 2 years playing together is proof enough how toxic he is.
Yeah, he must have pissed off everyone. Mata in his blog wished good luck to Fellaini but nothing on Lukaku.
 

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Want to have big salary, want to be a big star.

But don't want to be one of scapegoat when something went wrong. That's loser !!

A star that accept critics and blame and fight back with right attitude is the real star.
 

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nah Rom, you were criticised because you were pure rubbish with the touch of a trampoline, Pogba because he was unbelievably inconsistent and treated alot of games like a kick about in the park, and Alexis because he's being paid a scandalous amount of money to do sweet f.a and possibly earn the title of worse signing ever.

Stop your crying Rom, dont act like you were hard done by. You along with some other players brought the level of our play down quite a bit when we were on our run. We simply were not going to be a top team with Rom leading the attack. Im glad Ole learned that quick enough
 

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Want to have big salary, want to be a big star.

But don't want to be one of scapegoat when something went wrong. That's loser !!

A star that accept critics and blame and fight back with right attitude is the real star.
When you are a big player on big wages you have to accept that when things are going well, you will see praise through the roof.

However; when things are going bad there will be criticism on the big players. Big wages comes with responsibility.
 

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There's no real connection between the 3 he's mentioned. Pogba definitely has been a scapegoat at times but Sanchez? People have basically forgotten about him. He was given about a years worth of 'maybe he'll come good now' before going straight to forgotten, there was no real scapegoating of him at any point. Most players have been scapegoated at one point or another in recent years, so you could pick out pretty much any 3. Lukaku is closer to Fellaini really, he wasn't a very good player so was never going to be that popular. I grew to like Fellaini though for the same reasons I'm growing to dislike Lukaku.
Fellaini left with my respect, he stood tall when many would have crumbled. He gave his all for supporters who wanted someone else in the shirt (for the majority, myself included).

Lukaku was never going to be Roberto Baggio, but he had the potential to be very effective.

In the end, he didn't have the mental strength to play for Manchester United, and he'll be forgotten for all but his price-tag.
In years to come we'll remember Sanchez the way we currently do Falcao & Schweinsteiger, and think about Lukaku in the same way I think about WWE (not often, because even when it was physically impressive, it was still ultimately fake).
 

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That is the pitfall of playing for Man Utd, every single little things is reported in the news and blown out of proportion. If he can't live with the fact that he will be made scapegoat because of his price tag, then he should be living a bless life now in Milan, i hope.
 

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When you are a big player on big wages you have to accept that when things are going well, you will see praise through the roof.

However; when things are going bad there will be criticism on the big players. Big wages comes with responsibility.
Exactly, and it's the same in the real world to a lesser extent.
 

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Fellaini left with my respect, he stood tall when many would have crumbled. He gave his all for supporters who wanted someone else in the shirt (for the majority, myself included).

Lukaku was never going to be Roberto Baggio, but he had the potential to be very effective.

In the end, he didn't have the mental strength to play for Manchester United, and he'll be forgotten for all but his price-tag.
In years to come we'll remember Sanchez the way we currently do Falcao & Schweinsteiger, and think about Lukaku in the same way I think about WWE (not often, because even when it was physically impressive, it was still ultimately fake).
Good metaphor for Lukaku, I like it :)
 

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Exactly, and it's the same in the real world to a lesser extent.
Sometimes players seem to think there is an agenda against them.

Lukaku saying he was the scapegoat with Sanchez and Pogba, but when you actually look at it.

Lukaku - The less said about his touch is better, granted he is a goalscorer, but there have been games where he is clear and should be scoring and totally fecks it up. If he looks at himself, he surely cannot think he is a complete player? apparently United used him incorrectly from his podcast, he likes to be a player facing the goal.

Sanchez - If you are earning what he is on, you have to be the best player on the pitch 9/10 times. But 9/10 he cannot get into the starting line up should say something.

Pogba - This one I do feel sorry because there are times he does get unjust criticism.
 

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No wonder he fitted in so well with Mourinho - Lukaku's another one who thinks his achievements mean that he shouldn't ever be criticised.
 

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No wonder he fitted in so well with Mourinho - Lukaku's another one who thinks his achievements mean that he shouldn't ever be criticised.
What are his achievements though!? He's won nothing! deserves to be scapegoated because he came back a fat & unfit feck from the World Cup and contributed to our 6th place finish, along with his dog walker best mate.
 

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What are his achievements though!? He's won nothing! deserves to be scapegoated because he came back a fat & unfit feck from the World Cup and contributed to our 6th place finish, along with his dog walker best mate.
Have you not heard? Belgiums all time record goalscorer and became a pro aged 16. So he's literally dining out on a 10 year old accolade and outscoring the legendary household name that is Bernard Voorhoof.
 

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I know a few Belgians and they all seem to agree that Lukaku is one of the most precious twats to ever grace Belgian football.

Just some overwhelming scientific evidence I wanted to share about his personality.
 

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Is he not criticised by the Belgium fans as well?

I guess he is the Belgian scapegoat too.

I really want to play Inter next season.
 

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Is he not criticised by the Belgium fans as well?

I guess he is the Belgian scapegoat too.

I really want to play Inter next season.
It would be interesting to see the kind of reception he gets. I think it'll be Di Maria-esque. The way he has gone about his exit has been thoroughly unprofessional and some of his words come across as extremely bitter.
 

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For all the talk of his supposed insecurity, he just seems incredibly complacent to me.
 

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It would be interesting to see the kind of reception he gets. I think it'll be Di Maria-esque. The way he has gone about his exit has been thoroughly unprofessional and some of his words come across as extremely bitter.
I think he'd definitely be booed.

He was shite here but more than that his behaviour in his last few weeks have ensured he'll be very unpopular.
 

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It would be interesting to see the kind of reception he gets. I think it'll be Di Maria-esque. The way he has gone about his exit has been thoroughly unprofessional and some of his words come across as extremely bitter.
I have no doubt the reception will be Di Maria esque. Thing is he could have left mutually, no one would have minded. But he has said some bitter words, fans dont forget easily.
 

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I fear for San Siro's structural integrity with this clown waddling around there next season.
 

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Hey, we gave it a punt with the big man up top. It didn't work out in the end. In his first season he was lithe and everybody played to his strengths. He is at his best running onto balls over the top. When he put on all that lumber and stopped running, he pretty much became a hindrance. He didn't have the skills to hold up the ball and create assists, he just wants to turn and shoot all the time, but what is the point of that when the opposition had enough time to plug in a concrete mixer and build a wall behind him. He may be quick in a sprint, but he wasn't quick in making decisions, or one touch passing. He slowed our attacks down and made us lose momentum. In many cases, his second touch was a tackle.
 

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Being the record scorer for your country is impressive, but on closer inspection it’s also very similar to his league record in that he pads his statistics against minnows, and also in this case often in Friendlies. The only top teams he’s scored against are Portugal, Holland and Croatia and 2 of them games were friendlies.
 

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All the while I've never thought he showed a bad attitude on the pitch, there's some good examples there of how he did his best for us while he was here. It just soured badly in his second season when he turned up unfit, looked too often to be struggling to do the basics then popping up in the media talking about Serie A. I don't hate the bloke but it's so telling that most of us are happy to see him leave, pleased with recouping the money and looking forward to seeing who we get next. The move has got all the hallmarks of one that works for all parties.
Fair enough. I felt the writing was on the wall from day 1. This is how Jose described Lukaku:
"For the characteristics of the Premier League, we need a target man, which is not Martial, which is not Rashford. We have options, good options, good players, but the target man, the clear nine, the one that is comfortable to play in the box and the defensive line, we thought Romelu would be a good option for us."

Lukaku isn't a target man. Therefore, it was inevitable for Lukaku to find it exceedingly difficult. When you hear target man, what words come to mind sir? Hold up play perhaps? Maybe for you, its battling with centre backs? Dominant aerially? In any case, it was evident at Everton that Lukaku:

- Thrived in the transition phase
- Had a propensity to run the channels particularly from the right hand side so when he receives it he can use the momentum to try and have a shot on goal
- He predominantly used his athletecism to get on the end of early crosses, as opposed to meeting crosses from a stationary position
- Benefited from width
- Required support in the attack. Barkley was a designated player to supply him as much as possible, and in his penultimate season Kone was very much in close proximity to him acting as a foil for Lukaku to increase his goal scoring exploits

In terms of width,Lukaku is used to having an offensively orientated full back. At Everton, he had that luxury in Baines and Coleman. At international level, Belgium played with Vertonghen at left back. Therefore, he gravitated to Meunier in terms of on the pitch chemistry. Higher up the pitch, he found it advantageous to have the likes of Bolasie, Lennon, Deulofeu, and even Barkley providing genuine width. At international level, he has Meunier and they have a cohesive partnership, and also De Bruyne inherently capable of making world class crosses. In contrast at Manchester United where he played in a set up which was very much lopsided, and thus a paucity of both width and offensive full backs.

Lukaku was right to seek out as he's not a systematic fit for Ole. Whether Inter is the right team for him, I'm not quite sure.

Concerning his standing with United fans, he joined when Rashford had experienced his best run of games under Jose. Therefore many United fans were already waiting for him to fail and any mistake would be a case of confirmation bias. You had another section of fans that wanted Morata. Then a section of fans that wanted Martial and Rashford to start at the same time. Those that felt he encapsulated everything that was wrong with Mourinho. Those that simply don't like a striker of his ilk. I don't think there was ever a period when he was exceedingly liked by the United faithful for any sustained period. I feel Jose protected him often baring the one anomaly when he criticised Lukaku for missing a final via injury. Jose repeatedly called the fans to get off his back, and when he wasn't in the starting berth, then Jose would criticise Martial and Rashford as exemplified by:

“Maybe now you will not ask me why A, B and C do not play so much. People always ask: ‘Why always Lukaku?’ Well, now they know why always Lukaku, and why always this player and why always that player."
 

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Fair enough. I felt the writing was on the wall from day 1. This is how Jose described Lukaku:
"For the characteristics of the Premier League, we need a target man, which is not Martial, which is not Rashford. We have options, good options, good players, but the target man, the clear nine, the one that is comfortable to play in the box and the defensive line, we thought Romelu would be a good option for us."

Lukaku isn't a target man. Therefore, it was inevitable for Lukaku to find it exceedingly difficult. When you hear target man, what words come to mind sir? Hold up play perhaps? Maybe for you, its battling with centre backs? Dominant aerially? In any case, it was evident at Everton that Lukaku:

- Thrived in the transition phase
- Had a propensity to run the channels particularly from the right hand side so when he receives it he can use the momentum to try and have a shot on goal
- He predominantly used his athletecism to get on the end of early crosses, as opposed to meeting crosses from a stationary position
- Benefited from width
- Required support in the attack. Barkley was a designated player to supply him as much as possible, and in his penultimate season Kone was very much in close proximity to him acting as a foil for Lukaku to increase his goal scoring exploits

In terms of width,Lukaku is used to having an offensively orientated full back. At Everton, he had that luxury in Baines and Coleman. At international level, Belgium played with Vertonghen at left back. Therefore, he gravitated to Meunier in terms of on the pitch chemistry. Higher up the pitch, he found it advantageous to have the likes of Bolasie, Lennon, Deulofeu, and even Barkley providing genuine width. At international level, he has Meunier and they have a cohesive partnership, and also De Bruyne inherently capable of making world class crosses. In contrast at Manchester United where he played in a set up which was very much lopsided, and thus a paucity of both width and offensive full backs.

Lukaku was right to seek out as he's not a systematic fit for Ole. Whether Inter is the right team for him, I'm not quite sure.

Concerning his standing with United fans, he joined when Rashford had experienced his best run of games under Jose. Therefore many United fans were already waiting for him to fail and any mistake would be a case of confirmation bias. You had another section of fans that wanted Morata. Then a section of fans that wanted Martial and Rashford to start at the same time. Those that felt he encapsulated everything that was wrong with Mourinho. Those that simply don't like a striker of his ilk. I don't think there was ever a period when he was exceedingly liked by the United faithful for any sustained period. I feel Jose protected him often baring the one anomaly when he criticised Lukaku for missing a final via injury. Jose repeatedly called the fans to get off his back, and when he wasn't in the starting berth, then Jose would criticise Martial and Rashford as exemplified by:

“Maybe now you will not ask me why A, B and C do not play so much. People always ask: ‘Why always Lukaku?’ Well, now they know why always Lukaku, and why always this player and why always that player."
I don't disagree at all. I think Jose's comments such as that last one, which was horrible to hear as it's United's coach hanging United players out to dry in public to score points with the press, hardened many a United fan's heart against Lukaku. He doesn't look great technically, doesn't seem to be fitting the system even under Jose for the reasons you mention, goes on barren runs which naturally get us a bit twitchy and then the coach is bagging Rashford and Martial to pump him up.
 

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That's a good thing for him to have done
I feel you can see where he's coming from irrespective if you agree with him or not. Human beings like to feel a sense of achievement so its understandable that Lukaku refused to even touch the cup when Chelsea won the Champions League in 2012 as he was not part of the list. In that sense, his behaviour in that particular incident is consistent with his view about those celebrating the France World Cup. I can see how his comment can come across as polemical, and rub fans off the wrong way. Fans fundamentally watch from the sidelines so to criticise players for celebrating without playing an integral role can create a sense of disconnect and with disconnections comes divisions. Fans predominantly gain satisfaction vicariously thus when a team they identify with does well, they also feel achievement. It's the same with the players that Lukaku referred too, they may not have played physically but it was the vicarious experience which positioned them to celebrate with the trophy.
 

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Apparently, he recorded the podcast while he was still a Man Utd player...unbelievable!
 
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