Swap deal for Lingard? I feel having two inexperienced young talents in the same team will be too much.
The complete capitulation of Delli Ali - what happened to him?
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I thought he had 3 great seasons but he carried an injury into the world cup and was never given time to recover. He's not had a run of consistency since then through injury and poor form but to say he's gone as a footballer is a bit mad. He just needs to recharge and get a run of 20 games under his belt and then he will come back. He also needs to rest more as he's had a few hamstring injuries and you need proper recovery time.
Lingard isn't hyped at all.
Why? He's been really bad and playing like that he's wouldn't make out team better.
Doesn't help the team as a whole aren't looking functional.
Dele is not inexperienced though, he's a full fledged international who's going through a rough patch on a team that is going through an even rougher patch. I don't think they'd swap him for Lingard.
What would you say his actual strengths were.
He always seemed to be one of those unusual players, like a Thomas Muller that it's hard to tell.
Not quick, not creative, not a tackler, not good at delivering the ball etc.
Muller just had that knack of positioning to score quite a few.
He’s a very good player. Put him in the right system and he’ll flourish. It’s like fans outside of United don’t rate Pogba and calling him crap and overrated but we all know he’s not
I think Spurs bought him from MK Dons for 4M but how much is he worth now if say City buys him tomorrow?
I think Spurs bought him from MK Dons for 4M but how much is he worth now if say City buys him tomorrow?
He's a Jack Wilshere on dancing slippers
- Always picks up a fight
- Has a puncable face
- World class once upon a time
- Shite statistics
- Both have played for north london clubs
- Fortnite players
Nobody with any sense compared him to those 2, as he was at his best in a much more advanced role. He wasn't even playing in midfield.
Like you said, the Platt comparisons are more apt. An OK footballer who comes alive round the box and chips in with a decent number of goals.
Muller is a good comparison.
His movement off the ball was world class. The amount of times he slipped his marker and popped up in awkward positions was so impressive. He also opened up space for Kane by making said runs, and generally made us less predictable.
Was also accurate with his headers and a very good finisher. Probably our second best after Kane, and yes better than Son in terms of putting away the chances you would expect.
His passing was also really underrated imo. He played a hell of a lot of defence splitting through balls in for Kane and 17/18 showed he was starting to pick up more assists. His clever little flicks etc go nowhere now, but at his best they made us unpredictable and it was mostly fun to watch.
Mostly though he had a fantastic relationship on the pitch with Kane and we badly miss that chemistry they had. His weaknesses were pretty clear (often tried too much, lost the ball too often, short passing could be erratic, not always the most mature player) but this idea he was just a nothing player who had a good patch of form is nonsense. He was clearly a big talent, still is, not on the level of a Gerrard/lampard but certainly that of a very good attacking midfield player.
The way the team are right now isn’t exactly set up for an out of form player to sort himself out.
I think the title is a bit ott and he'll come good again. Certainly better than Mata/Pereira/Matic/Fred/Lingard. So that's something
It's been downhill ever since he was allowed to just coast through games for club and country.
In his current shockingly bad state he's not. He's that badI think the title is a bit ott and he'll come good again. Certainly better than Mata/Pereira/Matic/Fred/Lingard. So that's something
OK, I'll watch a couple of Spurs games. I haven't really seen him lately.In his current shockingly bad state he's not. He's that bad
This thread is partly, "ignoring his performances as summarized by his statistics, here is my unbiased perspective on Alli"
He will get a hattrick tomorrow now.
Agree 100%.
A points based reddit like system would work great here actually, would certainly decrease the embarrassing, over the top reactionary comments.
Always overrated, never as good as hyped during a very purple patch when poor decisions got lucky.
Ariiiise, Delli?
So if you play a player out of position for over a year they lose form and turn shit, you start him in his natural position and he starts playing very well again. Who knew?
He’s got a long way to go before he impresses a coach like Jose. Got a lucky goal last night but sometimes that’s the break you need. Let’s see how he shapes up.
Think he’ll have the fear factor now that he didn’t under Poch
That pass near the touch line the other day which lead to the goal was pretty sick I gotta admit
You have hit the nail on the head, he has been toilet for nearly 2 seasons yet Poch kept picking him over and over, no pressure from Poch to improve. He has done more in the last 2 games than I have seen from him this season.
It's so awesome to rewrite history and praise anything a new shiny toy does 
What ya mean?It's so awesome to rewrite history and praise anything a new shiny toy does
He was played out of position, who knew playing him in natural position would do the trick, posts like that taking cheap shots on the manger who was sacked and trying to give credit to the new manager as if he reinvented the player.
Still I don't understand how he was played out of position.
He has been deployed to wider left positions, and I think he is much more effective centrally. He has also been plying as a CM, when hes much more effective advanced.
He was picked when it was clear he was either out of form/injured and should have been dropped, I've been saying that since last season. I do Think Jose has simplified our style of play and Dele has had for what ever reason a kick up the ass. I don't think Jose has done much differently than what Poch was doing when we were good, back to playing a 4-2-3-1 and pressing.
Few times and it wasnt as if he was playing him as wide left consistently.
Players were tired of the methods and exhausted, change was needed and they got that. All of a sudden there is a new energy in the team.
Agree with all of that.
Looks like his form is picking up recently
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/131519/Show/Dele-Alli
I think he's the kind of player that Mourinho likes. He's a competitor and handily 6ft 2ins as well.
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/131519/Show/Dele-Alli
I think he's the kind of player that Mourinho likes. He's a competitor and handily 6ft 2ins as well.
Spot on. It's the same reason Pep usually leaves after 3-4 seasons. And Klopp will, as well.
He's had two good games.
At least they spend money to refresh the squad, making players compete for the positions. Spurs just failed to do that. Parting ways with manager was the right decision in the end. Needed new energy to the team and you always get that with managerial change.
Also tbf to Spurs they were in this mixed position, where they had good team. To improve first 11 they would have had to spend insane money and the players they signed weren’t good enough to challenge the senior players.
Yeah, Poch did a great job whilst that stadium was being built/funded, managing that team on a small budget, iirc.
His two best games in probably 2 years. It's worth noting.
Its more his workrate and actually giving a feck that has been more apparent.
Dele really suffered from the emergence of Son, as Poch tried playing him deeper and not directly on the shoulder of Kane as he had in the past and had Son (or Lucas) more centrally. Mourinho seems to be playing Son and Lucas both as purely wide players and letting Dele have his preferred central role where he can overlap with Kane and get himself into the box constantly.
My guess is we'll see Son's stats fall off a bit, and Dele's pick up.
My guess is we'll see Son's stats fall off a bit, and Dele's pick up.
Jose is basically just copying Pochs tactics from when we actually worked, its really simple football so far with the press back and a work rate.
Turns out he just needed a good manger. 