Bale is going to be a massive hit at Spurs will help Mourinho get them into top 4.
Have no idea about Cavani.
Have no idea about Cavani.
Bale or Cavani, which is the better deal?
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Depends on injuries, as a Welsh football fan I can't say that Bale is the same player he once was though.
Thing I like the most about Cavani is the graft I see him put in anytime I've seen him for PSG or Uruguay. I do think he'll be a good influence on Rashford, Greenwood and Martial
Thing I like the most about Cavani is the graft I see him put in anytime I've seen him for PSG or Uruguay. I do think he'll be a good influence on Rashford, Greenwood and Martial
I think Bale.
He's the better player, has better teammates, a better manager and providing he stays fit will start more games. His fitness is a huge question mark though.
Cavani will be excellent in away games against teams like City and Liverpool imo. He's good on the counter and works incredibly hard for the team but I think he might struggle in the home games against the lesser sides because he needs space to be really effective and teams tend to park the bus at Old Trafford and try and hit on the counter. Although if chances are made for him I back him to put more away than Martial will.
He's the better player, has better teammates, a better manager and providing he stays fit will start more games. His fitness is a huge question mark though.
Cavani will be excellent in away games against teams like City and Liverpool imo. He's good on the counter and works incredibly hard for the team but I think he might struggle in the home games against the lesser sides because he needs space to be really effective and teams tend to park the bus at Old Trafford and try and hit on the counter. Although if chances are made for him I back him to put more away than Martial will.
Yeah, i agree with the overall point that Bale's transfer is, from the off, a much higher advantage for Spurs as he was probably brought in to go straight into improving the first XI. Whereas Cavani wasn't, IMO.
It's a bit early to say but didn't Bale admit recently that the tendons in his ankles are hanging on by a thread?
Bale is the better player at this point in time. But Cavani suited us more. We needed another striker.
Bale is a wreck
Ironically, I think Bale would have been more logical for us and Cavani for Spurs.
I'd say Bale hands down, esp if he can get his fitness up and consistently. Bale will slot in perfectly in Spurs front 3 of Son, Kane and Bale.
Although Cavani is obviously better than everyone United have as CF and should easily make that starting role his own, United’s lack of balance in attack will per his effectiveness a bit. They needed a WC right winger to balance things out. A front three of Martial - Cavani - Sancho/Dembele would have been great with Rashford and Greenwood deputising from the bench.
Cavani will be a great asset to United if they can get the balance right, although its funny to see some posters who were getting their knickers in a twist over Chelsea signing Tiago Silva, a CB apparently happy with United signing 33 yr Cavani, a CF to play in the PL. I think both will do just fine though.
Although Cavani is obviously better than everyone United have as CF and should easily make that starting role his own, United’s lack of balance in attack will per his effectiveness a bit. They needed a WC right winger to balance things out. A front three of Martial - Cavani - Sancho/Dembele would have been great with Rashford and Greenwood deputising from the bench.
Cavani will be a great asset to United if they can get the balance right, although its funny to see some posters who were getting their knickers in a twist over Chelsea signing Tiago Silva, a CB apparently happy with United signing 33 yr Cavani, a CF to play in the PL. I think both will do just fine though.
I would say Bale, but, if we had got Bale & Spurs Cavani, then Cavani.
I think that is quite obvious.
I think that is quite obvious.
The question is, by whom. By all indications this transfer was Levy’s idea and not Mourinho’s, for whom it’s very much a public statement of Spurs’ new status. Also, Bale has kicked up a fuss at Madrid for being stuck on the wing and not centrally, do people think that he’ll settle for a lesser role at Spurs?
Overall, I think, it’s a question of motivation. If Bale is motivated, he can still become one of league’s best players. I’m not sure if Cavani has it him anymore, but I think we’ll see more effort from him – and he’s probably going to be available for us for more games. Hopefully.
Too much golf
Whichever one ends up injured less is surely the answer.
Gareth Bale. Loan deal + they are only paying 40% of his wages. Brilliant business.
yes no arguments here, mostly hope and the suspicion Bales body won’t hold up. No doubts Bales ceiling is arguably best player in the league level, although I do think Cavani could make an Etoo at Chelsea type contribution
Winners go on to bigger and better things. Losers go back where they came from.
A loan deal and a one year contract are very similar. In terms of costs, by all accounts they are similar.
Both have a lot to prove. Bale has the greater expectation as a guaranteed starter of fit, Cavani doesn’t have that expectation.
Spot on. Redcafe logic:. Opposition team gets completely obliterated? It's just a blip. We get obliterated? SIGN OF ROT FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. Opposition team signs player who we were linked with spuriously? Utter failure on scouting team, heads should roll. We sign young wonderkid rated by all top clubs across Europe? Literally who are they anyway, we need players -nnnnnnooooow- (Daddy want want want). Opposition team signs free transfer legend? It's a gamble that will probably pay off, no risk after all. We sign free transfer legend? USELESS, WHAT WERE OUR SCOUTING Team doing it's a HUGE RISK.
Spurs aren't paying the full Gareth Bale wages. Madrid will pay most of it. It's very, very low risk signing. Succeeds, great, flops, no problem.
So they are paying 40% of £400-500k per week? By all account Cavani is in the region of £170-200k.
So both are in the same ballpark in terms of costs.
Both are similar, both risks worth taking from both clubs.
I'm not saying Cavani is bad business. I'm actually very excited to see him in our shirt here, but I think Spurs made brilliant business with getting Bale at such terms.
As per Whitwell, Cavani earns around 150-155K per week. Simon Stone said Manutd wont be paying the rumored 10 million agent fee, its less than that.
Bale may have an exceptional season with Spurs. May even win this season's top assists prize.
But I'm fairly sure had he come to United, he would have been a crook ravaged with injuries and actually makes Phil Jones looks fit. We are just...cursed.
I agree. I like Bale, and did think he would have been a good option for us. I’d really like to see him do well, and stick 2 fingers up to his critics and to Real. I was just really trying to point on that the two players are probably costing similar amounts.
If both can play regularly and play well, then they will be very exciting for the PL.
The interesting question around Bale is that if he does well, do spurs have an option to buy him, and will Bale go for a perm transfer on massively reduced wages?
That’s good news. In footballing terms. It’s not a lot of money to be paying.
Question is, if Bale had been available yesterday would we have been taking a punt on him rather than Cavani?
And if so should we have acted sooner knowing BVB’s position on Sancho?
And if so should we have acted sooner knowing BVB’s position on Sancho?
We signed one.
Bale is the better player by far but his legs couldn't support the body of a 2 year old without getting injured, whereas Cavani is a ballerina and is rarely injured so by default will be the better deal
Bale won it all and play well in the big games, but does he have any hunger left? He is automatically picked for his NT.
If he stays healthy he is great and in an environment where he is loved.
Cavani has a hunger to play in the WC and used to be relentless, and a model pro. Hopefully he is still motivated to excell and will bring his best if he stays healthy. He faded out and never reached the glory he deserved.
I'd pick Bale but its a toss up.
Bale for us wouldn't have been as good as he will be for Spuds I'd reckon.
I think Cavani will have a much better season. Bale is an absolute crock, made of glass. Cavani was rarely ever injured in his career up until the last year or so when the game started to catch up with him. I honestly think the fact that Cavani hasn't played in 7 months is a bonus. His body has had plenty of time to recover from season after season of running himself into the ground.
I'm praying we see a fresh and rejuvenated Cavani because he's one of those players who can make others around him look better also. Such a hard worker with the quality to back it up.
I'm praying we see a fresh and rejuvenated Cavani because he's one of those players who can make others around him look better also. Such a hard worker with the quality to back it up.
Too early to say but from the outset I'd say both are potentially very good signings for both clubs but for me Bale has the edge because he is a 100% starter in our first 11 if fit but I'm not sure Cavani is, he is more about squad depth than improving your team.
I'd have to lean towards Bale being a better pickup. He has a lot to prove & will not lack motivation, while Cavani is more likely a sub/stop gap. Yeah, we needed another forward, but Ole wasn't using Ighalo that much and I'm not so sure about Cavani's 'motivation' besides a last big payday. Can he fit a role that this team uses? TBH, I haven't watched Cavani over the years, but my impression was of a poacher, not a creator or someone really involved in the buildup. Does he give the team another way to play or can he improve our attack as it stands?
Bale is in a great position to succeed. If he can get relatively healthy, figure he'd be good for 10+ goals, especially if Mou actually eases up on the reins like he did vs Utd on Sunday. Big IF, but still, he'd be a good outlet.
Bale is in a great position to succeed. If he can get relatively healthy, figure he'd be good for 10+ goals, especially if Mou actually eases up on the reins like he did vs Utd on Sunday. Big IF, but still, he'd be a good outlet.
If Cavani stays fir I think Cavani I honestly think Bale has had it in the general sense he can do the odd magical thing still but not consistent like he used to
Both are has beens.
Guess I am going to say Bale, who will play once a week for 60-70mins or just line up to smash Europa League pub teams. Lets face it his body probably cannot take any more than that. On a financial note for Spurs, it is a loan deal so they are not committed on the purchase, and as people have noted RM are still paying 40% of his wages.
Guess I am going to say Bale, who will play once a week for 60-70mins or just line up to smash Europa League pub teams. Lets face it his body probably cannot take any more than that. On a financial note for Spurs, it is a loan deal so they are not committed on the purchase, and as people have noted RM are still paying 40% of his wages.
Bale will be going home. Surrounded by all his old mates and family. Will not need a settling in period or to learn a new language. I think the signing of Bale has single-handedly saved Jose's ass as it has given the Spurs players a huge lift now that the best player Spurs has ever had is returning.
I think Bale will be a revelation if he stays injury free. I wish we'd signed him.
We have no idea if Cavani will be a Falcao or a Zlatan. Somewhere in between i'd imagine. We haven't had too much luck with South Americans. But physically he is a monster so should be able to handle himself right away.
I think Bale will be a revelation if he stays injury free. I wish we'd signed him.
We have no idea if Cavani will be a Falcao or a Zlatan. Somewhere in between i'd imagine. We haven't had too much luck with South Americans. But physically he is a monster so should be able to handle himself right away.
Hard to tell right now. Bale will be quite content to sit on his arse without playing though. Not sure if Cavani will, or if he'll get upset if he's not on the pitch enough.
I very much doubt that. He didn't swap sunny Spain for an English winter to not play.
There is literally no possible way to know this until we've seen both players play
I guess you've never heard of Jimmy Greaves (for example) ... you know, the man who scored more top flight goals in England than anyone, ever. Or maybe Danny Blanchflower rings a bell? Or Dave Mackay? Or several others I could name.