Good post.
Refs & VAR 2020/2021 Discussion
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I know it wasnt, but they initially looked at it to see if it was, before they looked at it in the context of the build up to the goal.
They didn't look at the challenge on Rashford at all.
Yeah, exactly. If it was a hard rule like you suggested, I'd be frustrated but I could accept it. But it's the inconsistency that kills me, especially when there are no excuses with VAR. They have time, all the angles and a second pair of eyes to help out and still wind up with stuff like this being overturned but Lindelof's or the Newcastle player being kicked in the face earlier in the area being kept as is despite being more egregious.
So if Rashford stays down and cries and gets all the docs attending to him, the team hammers the ref then it gets looked at right?
It wasn’t deemed violent conduct so couldn’t be checked as it wasn’t inside the box. It was just a standard foul that got missed. The difference with our goal was the goal and buildup is always checked and again was a standard foul but this time they are allowed to pull it back in that scenario.
Absolutely embarrassing. Live football is dead.
Just intent is sufficient. Look at Markovic red card against Basel.
I’d love to know how far back they can go in the review of the phase of play.
Clear and obvious. feck off.
Var had destroyed the game.
If you were new to football, why would you watch this, it’s shit entertainment.
They check it in Stockley Park to see if it is violent conduct before notifying the ref. Forget the goal build up, before that they were checking McTominay for violent conduct and a red. At least according to the commentary I'm watching. They didn't look at Rashford at all.
I think we’re all just fed up with the inconsistency of it right? You’ll see VAR reviews overturn something one week then leave it the next.
There’s no common sense either. Sometimes it’s like they feel like they have to impact a decision once it’s gone for a review, otherwise people might not see the point.
There’s no common sense either. Sometimes it’s like they feel like they have to impact a decision once it’s gone for a review, otherwise people might not see the point.
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Was I the only one who celebrated our first goal (the Son eyelash incident) and then didnt celebrate the next one?
Completely ruled Freds goal out as I thought it looked borderline offside and VAR would definitely feck us over again. It really does take something out of celebrating
Completely ruled Freds goal out as I thought it looked borderline offside and VAR would definitely feck us over again. It really does take something out of celebrating
The sooner we can hear the conversation the better.
We need accountability.
VAR are acting with complete impunity.
Didn't celebrate. Thought they over rule for a cavani offside.
Exactly. You can’t celebrate. You can’t actually be happy when you score. That’s not entertainment, that’s not football.
Football is nothing without supporters, and it’s the supporters who are being screwed.
The cancelled goal even have me somehow overall numb now. Even when Fernandes is close to scoring from the distance i feel meh. When you feel wronged by VAR it takes the overall joy out. I fecking hate what theyve done to the beautiful game it was.
It's more important to get the correct* decision than enjoy watching football
How can we get our frustration out for the people in charge to see it?
How about a protest from every fan who dislikes VAR to turn off the telly for 1 minute at a certain time? Should be doable, seeing how many people dislike it
How about a protest from every fan who dislikes VAR to turn off the telly for 1 minute at a certain time? Should be doable, seeing how many people dislike it
of course it does. that's really the worst thing about it
Yeah I agree. It’s help understand the decision making process.
It will improve consistency. In the same way as cricket. You go through a process, and they will get called out when we hear them making it up on the fly, which is clearly what happens now.
Check that
Luke Shaws yellow was strange to me. He commits the foul, the ref has the yellow in his hand but allows Spurs to take a quick free then books Luke after that move breaks down.
How is that correct? Can you blame a Utd player if he switched off when he saw this?
How is that correct? Can you blame a Utd player if he switched off when he saw this?
Chris Kavanagh's (and his team's) performance today was hands down the worst I've seen in our matches this season.
Spurs diving all over the place and we get 6 yellows and a disallowed goal.
Should have his licence stripped.
Spurs diving all over the place and we get 6 yellows and a disallowed goal.
Should have his licence stripped.
It was a clear yellow. Refs go back and book players all the time
It should be scrapped. It’s been a disaster. Managers, fans and players hate it.
Yup, think it was vs WBA when someone puts his hand over Lindelofs eyes and it does not get looked at even, where now we have a limp wrist on the cheek in the build up (that had no bearing on the goal whatsoever) and it results in a FK and the goal being overturned.
The technology itself is just fine, its the idiots using it and the inconsistent results thats the problem
When play has stopped already? He gave the foul, it wasnt an advantage. Refa stopping quick free kicks because they are handing out a yellow happens every game.
What if Shaw fouls and stops the next phase? A red without being shown the first yellow?
Is it even allowed? He is supposed to book Shaw before restarting the play or not book him at all?
Yep, it's a mistake. If the ref is booking a player he can't let a free kick be taken before it i don't think
Im not sure,.maybe there is a rule there, but it was def a yellow though
It's not the technology, it's the monkeys using it. If you have halfway competent refs and a transparent decision making process (like rugby does), it works.
Unfortunately, the halfway competent refs bit is a challenge. I'd settle for not entirely arbitrary, anal, easily duped, and spineless.
Pogba does to Dier exactly what Mctominay did to Son. Only Dier didn't go down like a Son. Just goes to show that play acting is all that counts.
I'm absolutely disgusted at the disallowed goal in the first half. I'd have celebrated it if it let us off the hook in a random game, but I'd have thought the same thing - football is a contact sport, McTomminay is entitled to shrug off his opponent, Son tries to grab McTomminay, McTomminay shrugs him off, he's ahead of Son so can't see where his hand is going to flick him.
To make matters worse, the ref doesn't give the foul, then on the monitor he overturns the decision as a clear and obvious error. Absolute shambles and could have cost us the game.
To make matters worse, the ref doesn't give the foul, then on the monitor he overturns the decision as a clear and obvious error. Absolute shambles and could have cost us the game.
I love the arguement its not VARs fault its the refs.
So blinkered.
If the ref isn't pulled to the side by three geezers in a van 100 miles away and told to look at it 5 times in slo mo he sticks with the original correct call.
Its an absolute disaster. Anyone defending it enjoys a different sport. With fans in the ground it will become even worse.
So blinkered.
If the ref isn't pulled to the side by three geezers in a van 100 miles away and told to look at it 5 times in slo mo he sticks with the original correct call.
Its an absolute disaster. Anyone defending it enjoys a different sport. With fans in the ground it will become even worse.
That's Jose for the goal should have stood 
This can’t be stressed enough. They’re getting a pass because it’s such a weird season but when you have packed stadiums full of people wondering what the flying feck is going on you’ll properly see how much this is ruining the game.
I came here to ask about this. I'd be very surprised if you are allowed to take a quick free kick before the yellow card is issued, and this is the literally the first time I've ever seen it happen so I'd be very interested to hear if anyone knows the rule?
Almost every other game you see the ref stop the play after a quick free kick has been taken to give the player who committed the foul a yellow card, as it's for obvious reasons very important to notify the player that he's on a yellow before letting play go on.