Newcastle United now owned by the PIF | PL receives "legally binding assurances that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will not control NUFC" ;)

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Alot of bitter people here. Let's be honest of course newcastle fans don't care about the social or political aspects of the Saudi takeover. The same way you don't care that your new iPhone was made in child labour factorities. Trying to act like you have some sort of moral high ground in the western world is a joke to be honest. Just say fair play no one is embarrassing themselves here.
 

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I think Newcastle will be challenging quicker than people think, after seeing what Man City have done they will cut out the getting established phase and jump right in I think 2-3 years I’d expect..
 

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Alot of bitter people here. Let's be honest of course newcastle fans don't care about the social or political aspects of the Saudi takeover. The same way you don't care that your new iPhone was made in child labour factorities. Trying to act like you have some sort of moral high ground in the western world is a joke to be honest. Just say fair play no one is embarrassing themselves here.
Nah I won't thanks.

Yeah no one is embarrassing themselves. :lol:

 

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Correct, they aren't They have just been fed up for 15 years of having an owner like Ashley. The fans are passionate as anything about their club, don't know why that makes them entitled or anything of the sort.
To see what entitlement actually means, you only need to spend a few minutes reading the quotes on the Bluemoon Meltdown thread :eek::lol:
 

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Nah I won't thanks.

Yeah no one is embarrassing themselves. :lol:

You won't because your bitter not because Newcastle fans are embarrassing themselves because they don't care about politics. As I said we in the western world enjoy the fruits of all sorts of products and services which come off the backs of terrible social issues yet we happily look over everyday. It's embarrassing to me people here typing about having the moral high ground whilst typing off a mobile phone made in child labour factorities.
 

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I guess Super league doesn't look all that bad if competition is State backed football club. Whole argument was competition but when your competition is Saudis, I guess I will prefer closed competition. Both are soulless but atleast it's not tainted with human suffering
This is such an overlooked point! In a few years, the only 'competiton' will be between the state owned oil clubs.
 

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I guess we’ll soon find out if FFP is well and truly dead. Newcastle’s revenue’s can’t be that high so if they start throwing crazy money about they’ll surely be in breach of the rules, although I’m sure they’ll offset all that through dodgy sponsorships as City have done.
 

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You won't because your bitter not because Newcastle fans are embarrassing themselves because they don't care about politics. As I said we in the western world enjoy the fruits of all sorts of products and services which come off the backs of terrible social issues yet we happily look over everyday. It's embarrassing to me people here typing about having the moral high ground whilst typing off a mobile phone made in child labour factorities.
Bitter? Yeah ok mate. :lol:

Wrong on almost every count but don't let get in the way of your whataboutism, carry on.
 

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I think Newcastle will be challenging quicker than people think, after seeing what Man City have done they will cut out the getting established phase and jump right in I think 2-3 years I’d expect..
Added to the fact that a lot of clubs in the bracket below City, Liverpool and Chelsea all have issues that make them a bit vulnerable to being overtaken by a rich and ambitious club.

We have our own Ole issues to navigate, by the time the management catches on to the conclusion that he just isn't good how many seasons would we have wasted.

Spurs are in need of a major rebuild and don't really have the money.

Arsenal are, well Arsenal.

Everton are really stuck in midtable and Benitez is limited in what he can achieve with them.

Leicester will soon need to replace Vardy and they can be weakened by the same Newcastle. We saw how Brendan jumped ship from Celtic, he can do the same and Newcastle can suddenly afford the big fees needed to attract the likes of Maddison, Ndidi etc.

Once they get to a level where they can attain top 4 then it's done.
 

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So you don't own a phone made in child labour factories?
No of course not mate because if I did own a phone it would invalidate my opinion on every other evil in the world and make me a hypocrite.

Am I right?

Give over.
 

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I guess we’ll soon find out if FFP is well and truly dead. Newcastle’s revenue’s can’t be that high so if they start throwing crazy money about they’ll surely be in breach of the rules, although I’m sure they’ll offset all that through dodgy sponsorships as City have done.
We know it is.. UEFA demonstrably have no means to enforce it against the best lawyers money can buy.

The PL could easily become a Newcastle, City, Chelsea top 3 with the new "doing a Leicester" being finishing in 4th.
 

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Another state owned club i see. I just don't get how fans want this, a foreign power a literal criminal state is taking over your home town club and you cheer towards your own (and footballs) demise. I'd never accept my club which i grow up with being in the hands of some foreign head of state, like how do you moraly justify continuting your support after that, i really don't understand that.

Imagine your club being run by it's members and people who live, eat, sleep and die for the club.
Over many years I’ve seen our club become a tourist centre - if you go to home matches you’ll be aware that it’s a myth to say the fans are locals………
 

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Just as well i have Rugby to keep me occupied outside of Football, because let's be honest here, football and especially the PL has 100% lost it's soul. State run clubs are absolutely disgusting. Having venture capitalists owning social institutions in the UK is disgusting. But having sports washing going on? well that's just abhorrent. The UK government and EPL should be ashamed at what they have done. The Glazers started it and it should never have been allowed happen.
 

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Alot of bitter people here. Let's be honest of course newcastle fans don't care about the social or political aspects of the Saudi takeover. The same way you don't care that your new iPhone was made in child labour factorities. Trying to act like you have some sort of moral high ground in the western world is a joke to be honest. Just say fair play no one is embarrassing themselves here.
I agree. I'm happy for Newcastle fans, their clubs going to be playing fantasy football.
 

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Added to the fact that a lot of clubs in the bracket below City, Liverpool and Chelsea all have issues that make them a bit vulnerable to being overtaken by a rich and ambitious club.

We have our own Ole issues to navigate, by the time the management catches on to the conclusion that he just isn't good how many seasons would we have wasted.

Spurs are in need of a major rebuild and don't really have the money.

Arsenal are, well Arsenal.

Everton are really stuck in midtable and Benitez is limited in what he can achieve with them.

Leicester will soon need to replace Vardy and they can be weakened by the same Newcastle. We saw how Brendan jumped ship from Celtic, he can do the same and Newcastle can suddenly afford the big fees needed to attract the likes of Maddison, Ndidi etc.

Once they get to a level where they can attain top 4 then it's done.
It doesn’t bare thinking about, I feel so sorry for my mates that support other sides like Spurs etc they have been struggling along trying to climb their way up the table and suddenly a super power comes along and will basically never see them get even top 4 again, no CL football or title challenge ever again, it’s painful to think about.
 

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For those who don't want to make Saudi Arabian companies richer you should:
  1. Stop consuming fuel, their main source of income. (already happening though at UK)
  2. Stop consuming Disney products (merchandising, series, movies, etc)
  3. Stop going into every social Networks
  4. Stop travelling with Uber or ordering through Uber eats
the list could go on
 

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I Aint watchin another PL game after this, this was the last blow tbh, its all plastic These days, even our Own club is owned by persons with no Connection to fotball or UK.

UEFA, FA, FIFA.. all turned rotten to the core in their exploitation & raping of this fine sport.. They all want 2 things only..$$$ & influence..

Shearer cheering… He should be punished by having all his Female relatives sent to saudi for the ”saudi Arabian women experience”..

& so should all the lunatics on here who Wanted those wicked & disgusting owners near our amazing brand of a club. PLASTIC LEAGUE. Plastic silent Crowd…

PL is just like NFL/NBA/NHL Etc with its greedy owners, power hungry organisations & dead Silent stadiums.. But what you’d expect when its only tourists watching, eh?
 

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You won't because your bitter not because Newcastle fans are embarrassing themselves because they don't care about politics. As I said we in the western world enjoy the fruits of all sorts of products and services which come off the backs of terrible social issues yet we happily look over everyday. It's embarrassing to me people here typing about having the moral high ground whilst typing off a mobile phone made in child labour factorities.
There are two simple rebukes to that.

1. Because something bad happens in one place we should ignore all the bad things that happen everywhere else?
2. What the Saudis do is far worse than anything the West does.
 

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For those who don't want to make Saudi Arabian companies richer you should:
  1. Stop consuming fuel, their main source of income. (already happening though at UK)
  2. Stop consuming Disney products (merchandising, series, movies, etc)
  3. Stop going into every social Networks
  4. Stop travelling with Uber or ordering through Uber eats
the list could go on
All great ideas.
 

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Given, Kompany, De Jong, SWP, Elano, B Bellamy were all bought after the Sheikh was the owner. You are trying to argue your point whilst being factually wrong. The team was garbage before Shinawatra arrived in 2007, then he started bringing decent players in. He was also only the owner for a year until Mansour arrived on the scene.
And City fans get accused of being bitter…. We’ve always had an advantage over other clubs and stripped them of their best assets whenever we felt like it while claiming to be a bigger and better club. Now the finances are even we better stop moaning and just SUPPORT our club like every other ‘fan’ does whether they’ve won anything or not - or go and support Chelsea.
 

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You won't because your bitter not because Newcastle fans are embarrassing themselves because they don't care about politics. As I said we in the western world enjoy the fruits of all sorts of products and services which come off the backs of terrible social issues yet we happily look over everyday. It's embarrassing to me people here typing about having the moral high ground whilst typing off a mobile phone made in child labour factorities.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...progress-in-supply-chain-no-child-labor-cases
 

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Not only that, the owners have had previous links to terrorist funding and support, not to mention the regime is full of murder, rape, child molestation, homophobia and sexism. Gay people are known to be killed for being gay, and there is no legal age of sexual consent in the country as long as a child is married to a man.
Yep, any dirty money will do so long as they get rid of Mike Ashley and get some expensive new players in.
 

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Am I missing something or is the "they're not owned by KSA but PIF" line just the same as me saying Chelsea isn't owned by Roman Abramovic but Fordstam Limited (the name of Roman's firm in the UK)?

In that it's technically true but ultimately not really worth mentioning?
They have to mention it every opportunity otherwise the PL comes off as utter c****. It is being bought by most people on Twitter as well and that is what matters. Perception is more important than reality.
 

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Anything they win from now on will be utterly meaningless....just like City

Try playing Football Manager on a game console in cheat mode and there is not much gratification.
 

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They have to mention it every opportunity otherwise the PL comes off as utter c****. It is being bought by most people on Twitter as well and that is what matters. Perception is more important than reality.
I might start using it to deflect when people criticise Roman. "We're not owned by Roman you idiot, what are you even talking about".
 
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It's just a job, eventually. Does it mean that the likes of KDB, Silva, and all City, PSG, and Chelsea players and all people that work for those clubs are not men/people of strong principals?
I don’t mean principles in that he wouldn’t work for the saudis, I just mean that he for example said no to United because he a) had a contract with Dortmund (still never broken one) and b) didn’t like the sales pitch.
No doubt United were offering a shed load more wages than Dortmund or even what he eventually got from Liverpool.
I just doubt he has the personality to leave Liverpool and go work in this kind of project. I mean, as if PSG haven’t sounded him out already.
 

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All great ideas.
They proably would make the world a better place. The bad thing is that until the governements make a 100% self-sufficient energetic country, we would go back decades.
TO be honest that investment should already happened: the UK has probably the best conditions in whole Europe to take advantadge of sea waves energy, which is a very efficient renewable energy. Yes, the investment would be huge, but in the middle to long term you would recover all that money by not importing fuel.
Off course this doesnt happen due to lack of funding, but rather that the oil sharks distribute some richness to people in charge of this decisions.
 

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I might start using it to deflect when people criticise Roman. "We're not owned by Roman you idiot, what are you even talking about".
You should mate if it works for the PL.

''We're not owned by Abramovich, we're owned by a company that is owned by Abramovich. Completely different.''
 

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There are two simple rebukes to that.

1. Because something bad happens in one place we should ignore all the bad things that happen everywhere else?
2. What the Saudis do is far worse than anything the West does.
At number 2 absolutely hell no. The atrocities the West has been involved in over the last 500 years is no way better than Saudi. Only difference is the west has become better at hiding what they do under different disguises.

Point 1 you are saying someone is embarrassing for celebrating the fact they will have money to finally spend on their club. As if you don't understand that and saying they are celebrating the bad things the Saudis do. That's ridiculous so I am gonna make a ridiculous point as that's exactly what you guys are doing. You sound ridiculous