Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)

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Keefy18

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Cal? said:
Sir Alex & Ronaldo clearly has a special bond, it's not like he's getting asked to go convince Frenkie to give up his 17m. That'd be a situation more like Dalglish getting invovled with Salah.
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He shouldn't be involved at all.


*If Ronaldo asked to speak to Fergie - It undermines ETH - Meaning Ronaldo will only stay for SAF and not the current manager, its hugely disrespectful!
*If the board asked Fergie to show up - It again undermines ETH
*If Fergie bullied his way in himself - It again undermines ETH
*If ETH involved him and asked him to talk to Ronaldo - This is the worse scenario of the lot... he's just massively undermined himself.

The craziest, strongest person in a club should always be the manager.

If the manager is having to rely on outside resources it is telling.

Currently we don't know which option of the 4 above it is, but it doesn't matter. All 4 make the manager look weak.
 

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Keefy18 said:
It's mind boggling folks saying its perfectly fine for SAF to be involved.

Whatever way it is spun it is a feckin horrendous look for the club / ETH.

*If Ronaldo asked to speak to Fergie - It undermines ETH - Meaning Ronaldo will only stay for SAF and not the current manager, its hugely disrespectful!
*If the board asked Fergie to show up - It again undermines ETH
*If Fergie bullied his way in himself - It again undermines ETH
*If ETH involved him and asked him to talk to Ronaldo - This is the worse scenario of the lot... he's just massively undermined himself.

Do folks not understand the psychology involved in sports at all?

If you're a United player in that squad and you see / hear this today, it makes the manager weak and there's no two ways about it.
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yep
 

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No one wants him so I don’t really why what the meeting is about. Sure, he might want CL (so do we as fans!) but unless he buys himself out of his contract - which would be amazing - its time to knuckle down and stomach the EL Ronnie.
 

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Keefy18 said:
It's mind boggling folks saying its perfectly fine for SAF to be involved.

Whatever way it is spun it is a feckin horrendous look for the club / ETH.

*If Ronaldo asked to speak to Fergie - It undermines ETH - Meaning Ronaldo will only stay for SAF and not the current manager, its hugely disrespectful!
*If the board asked Fergie to show up - It again undermines ETH
*If Fergie bullied his way in himself - It again undermines ETH
*If ETH involved him and asked him to talk to Ronaldo - This is the worse scenario of the lot... he's just massively undermined himself.

Do folks not understand the psychology involved in sports at all?

If you're a United player in that squad and you see / hear this today, it makes the manager weak and there's no two ways about it.
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True, its a loose -loose for ETH anyway you look at it. How i wish he club never put this burden on ETH.
 

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Reading the Bayern forum on reddit, most don’t want him because of this perceived idea that has generated like wildfire that he’s a cancer to the dressing room and also because of his wages and age. Otherwise, they seem intrigued by the idea. So it really isn’t a question of his quality on the pitch on why he’s getting rejected.

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Omg! Does Ronaldo really think Bayern would want him? He'd have to take a 75% wage reduction to convince them and he'd not play in 75% of their matches. Bayern are a sensible club.
 

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So nice of Mendes to accompany Ronaldo after his difficult time xxx
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People belittling his personal circumstances without knowing the facts just a few months after he lost a child are utter cnuts. Especially those who sympathise with Pogba's injuries.
 

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The man himself (SAF) said it, he had to be top dog!

He had to be seen as the scariest, baddest, most feared but respected person in the locker room.

Pretty sure I recall him saying it in one of his many documentaries he got it from Sun Tzu - The Art of War.

How many players did SAF get rid off the minute a player undermined his personal position?
 

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Now would have been the time to move him on as the club is rebuilding. He had his farewell season and he was delusional to think that squad was getting top 4 last season. Instead he's dominated the summer and it's nice of him to turn up two weeks before the season starts with all this negative bullshit during a good pre season for those that bothered to turn up for it. Sack this guy off.
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He wasn't delusional to think we'd get top 4, come on. We had finished 2nd and 3rd in each of the previous seasons. I predicted us to finish 4th that season, but I can tell you because I remember vividly that nearly everybody here was predicting us to finish either 2nd or 1st, and even outside of Utd fans nearly everybody was expecting us to finish within the top 3. I'd say he was delusional to think we could genuinely win the league which obviously seemed to be his main reason for joining, to be able to say he led Utd to their 1st league post-SAF which would undoubtedly have big accomplishment for his football legacy.
 

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Think it's too risky letting him go to another PL team but I'd sell if a foreign team was interested.
 

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Keefy18 said:
He shouldn't be involved at all.


*If Ronaldo asked to speak to Fergie - It undermines ETH - Meaning Ronaldo will only stay for SAF and not the current manager, its hugely disrespectful!
*If the board asked Fergie to show up - It again undermines ETH
*If Fergie bullied his way in himself - It again undermines ETH
*If ETH involved him and asked him to talk to Ronaldo - This is the worse scenario of the lot... he's just massively undermined himself.

The craziest, strongest person in a club should always be the manager.

If the manager is having to rely on outside resources it is telling.

Currently we don't know which option of the 4 above it is, but it doesn't matter. All 4 make the manager look weak.
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You are reading far too much into it.

Sir Alex has helped Ronaldo through personal issues before and is the closest person at the club to Ronaldo. Ronaldo is fairly only just taking time to properly work through losing a child after returning to work nearly instantly when it happened. If Ten Hag thought it would be a good idea to have Sir Alex join them for a chat considering ETH barely knows him then it would just seem like a bit of a nice touch for me. Not everything is about "I MUST SHOW MY AUTHORITY!".
 

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Ronaldo needs to stay...the man is a beast...even as a largely substitute this season, in this more organised and attacking side, he's banging in 20 goals
 

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Keefy18 said:
It's mind boggling folks saying its perfectly fine for SAF to be involved.

Whatever way it is spun it is a feckin horrendous look for the club / ETH.

*If Ronaldo asked to speak to Fergie - It undermines ETH - Meaning Ronaldo will only stay for SAF and not the current manager, its hugely disrespectful!
*If the board asked Fergie to show up - It again undermines ETH
*If Fergie bullied his way in himself - It again undermines ETH
*If ETH involved him and asked him to talk to Ronaldo - This is the worse scenario of the lot... he's just massively undermined himself.

Do folks not understand the psychology involved in sports at all?

If you're a United player in that squad and you see / hear this today, it makes the manager weak and there's no two ways about it.
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I do think SAF would go and see him anyway as there has been some kind if family issue as well to be fair and they are close. I also don’t buy SAF would have any influence now on a transfer, he can’t put United in the CL, he can’t make other clubs interested in paying/being interested.

Even if it is somehow related. ETH hasn’t got Ronaldo in mind long term either so he might literally be washing his hands of the player and the drama. He wants to coach the team and build for the future, if Ronaldo (and old player with 1 year left) wants a circus on the side let him be pampered by other people and not waste ETH’s time.
 

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You are reading far too much into it.

Sir Alex has helped Ronaldo through personal issues before and is the closest person at the club to Ronaldo. Ronaldo is fairly only just taking time to properly work through losing a child after returning to work nearly instantly when it happened. If Ten Hag thought it would be a good idea to have Sir Alex join them for a chat considering ETH barely knows him then it would just seem like a bit of a nice touch for me. Not everything is about "I MUST SHOW MY AUTHORITY!".
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I'm not at all.

If SAF is there for any other reason other than a goodbye, its a mistake.

ETH needs to follow SAF's mentality, he has to be top dog in that locker room to those players.
 

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Oranges038 said:
People belittling his personal circumstances without knowing the facts just a few months after he lost a child are utter cnuts. Especially those who sympathise with Pogba's injuries.
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His wife was modeling in her panties this morning on instagram, I think they are all fine.
 

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This is the annoying aspect, I don't think SAF, Arnold would be rocking up at Carrington if Shaw wanted out.
They feed his ego and you wonder why he acts the way he does.
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I really don’t want him back now. I know it’ll leave us short up front but hopefully we can get someone in.

I can just see the trouble ahead with Ronaldo if he stays. Firstly, he’s going to create trouble if he’s not starting. It’ll invite constant media questions about him. It’ll add unnecessary pressure to ETH who has handled everything perfectly till now.

The biggest problem will be if Ronaldo does play, we can forget all the fluid football we’ve been seeing pre-season. Because Ronaldo can’t play like that. He just wants crosses and chances for him to tap in.
 

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Keefy18 said:
I'm not at all.

If SAF is there for any other reason other than a goodbye, its a mistake.

ETH needs to follow SAF's mentality, he has to be top dog in that locker room to those players.
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He needs to form relationships with his players.

Asking the closest person to him to be involved when it is a very sensitive time is sensible when you don't know him. It in no way undermines Ten Hag.
 

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Oranges038 said:
People belittling his personal circumstances without knowing the facts just a few months after he lost a child are utter cnuts. Especially those who sympathise with Pogba's injuries.
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That was tragic. But let’s be honest, this has nothing to do with that.

Ronaldo and his agent have been quite active in a transfer move more than anything else. He’s not been on pre season tour due to him not wanting to stay. Utd have been happy with that arrangement too as they are open to letting him go.
 

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That was tragic. But let’s be honest, this has nothing to do with that.

Ronaldo and his agent have been quite active in a transfer move more than anything else. He’s not been on pre season tour due to him not wanting to stay. Utd have been happy with that arrangement too as they are open to letting him go.
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It has nothing to do with that?

Thanks Dr Phil.
 

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Everyone that's suggesting Fergie is here to convince Ronaldo, there is no evidence that is the case.

The club do this sometimes, they wheel out Robson and Ferguson to watch the new manager in action do a brief interview for MUTV and then go home.

So there's that scenario.

Then there is the fact that any decision to be made with regards Ronaldo is not only a player transfer but has commercial ramifications. Maybe this requires a board meeting.
 

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Keefy18 said:
It's mind boggling folks saying its perfectly fine for SAF to be involved.

Whatever way it is spun it is a feckin horrendous look for the club / ETH.

*If Ronaldo asked to speak to Fergie - It undermines ETH - Meaning Ronaldo will only stay for SAF and not the current manager, its hugely disrespectful!
*If the board asked Fergie to show up - It again undermines ETH
*If Fergie bullied his way in himself - It again undermines ETH
*If ETH involved him and asked him to talk to Ronaldo - This is the worse scenario of the lot... he's just massively undermined himself.

Do folks not understand the psychology involved in sports at all?

If you're a United player in that squad and you see / hear this today, it makes the manager weak and there's no two ways about it.
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Exactly. Ferguson's meddling has become problematic but most United fans don't want to admit it.
 
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