Marko Arnautović | United have pulled out

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The most concerning part is that someone at the club identified this man as a possible solution.

Whoever it was should get zero say in transfers going forward(even if it was ETH).
 

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I’m not for this guy at all. But playing devils advocate.. when Conte wants his players… we all say the clubs should do it. ETH wanted this guy.
I agree to an extent, maybe if your manager wants Arnautovic then he’s not the right one. :lol: :nervous:
 

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ETH can surely sign players he doesn't know personally already. Him having, and us allowing, this sort of approach is really worrying.

I thought we were supposed to be going down the route of signing players to get a squad that doesn't need ripping up everytime we get a new manager anyway.
Correct. Not even through 1st window and we have reverted to type. They've lost the plot.
 

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I’m not for this guy at all. But playing devils advocate.. when Conte wants his players… we all say the clubs should do it. ETH wanted this guy.
The problem is, I very much doubt ETH wanted him at the beginning of the window. In fact we know he didn’t as he wanted Nunez. So even though ETH may “want” him now, it’s because he can only take a biscuit from the plate that is put in front of him. It seems the bigger problem we are having with every manager is that the board are putting a shit choice of biscuits in front of every manager. Instead of Foxes assortments, they are being offered Maryland cookies and being asked to choose which of the broken cookies they would like.
 

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Fans should and hopefully will make their feelings about this shitshow of a window abundantly clear online and in the stadium.

Signing Arnautovic is approaching the same sort of defcon levels as back when Brendan Rodgers was favourite to follow Ole. Deserves a full on revolt.
 

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The problem is, I very much doubt ETH wanted him at the beginning of the window. In fact we know he didn’t as he wanted Nunez. So even though ETH may “want” him now, it’s because he can only take a biscuit from the plate that is put in front of him. It seems the bigger problem we are having with every manager is that the board are putting a shit choice of biscuits in front of every manager. Instead of Foxes assortments, they are being offered Maryland cookies and being asked to choose which of the broken cookies they would like.
Nunez wanted Liverpool. So we go back to the manager. He says it’s cool we’ll stick with CR7 and Tony. CR7 says he wants to leave. We go back to the manager. Now we are here.

What exactly do you want us to do. Not being funny but I’m sure if ETH said find my a striker they didn’t comeback and says hey what about Arauntovic?
 

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Maybe this is similar to when we were interested in signing Di Canio.
And what I mean is that hopefully it doesn't happen either.
 

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Nunez wanted Liverpool. So we go back to the manager. He says it’s cool we’ll stick with CR7 and Tony. CR7 says he wants to leave. We go back to the manager. Now we are here.

What exactly do you want us to do. Not being funny but I’m sure if ETH said find my a striker they didn’t comeback and says hey what about Arauntovic?
But I also believe he would have requested a number of forwards before he got to that name which for whatever reason haven’t happened. He wanted Nunez, Anthony, Nkunku, Sesko if reports are to be believed. I’m certain ETH didn’t come into the summer window with Arnautovic on his mind.
 

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Well good, now that they’ve found out he’s a racist, they can move on to our other option, Luis Saurez.
You joke, but Suarez at least is a good player. I obviously wouldn't want him at the club, given the racism, antics, Liverpool history, and age, but he at least has the quality of being able to play football at a high level and score goals.

With Arnautovic, you don't even have that. Zero redeeming qualities whatsoever.
 

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But I also believe he would have requested a number of forwards before he got to that name which for whatever reason haven’t happened. He wanted Nunez, Anthony, Nkunku, Sesko if reports are to be believed. I’m certain ETH didn’t come into the summer window with Arnautovic on his mind.
Two of those are still attainable. Arnautovic is a number 9. Not a forward.
 

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It's bad enough he was genuinely a target whether it's dead in the water or not. What are we playing at?
 

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Like who?
Someone who can score goals, has international experience, is relatively low cost, has a good work ethic, knows the premiership, good in the air and on the ground,
Name one and I'll be impressed.
Giroud
Dzeko
Aubameyang (ok the work ethic one doesn't apply too much here :lol: )
Kramaric
Pukki

I don't think any of those are the answer, but I'd definitely take a few of them over Arnautovic, who's always been very talented but also a dick
If you open it up to players who haven't played in the PL but fit the other criteria then there's actually a few very interesting options
 

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I’m not for this guy at all. But playing devils advocate.. when Conte wants his players… we all say the clubs should do it. ETH wanted this guy.
In theory, the club should have oversight on recruitment. Just as the manager should have a veto. That way you ensure the worst mistakes are avoided.

But this summer I have no issue with the manager having particularly heavy say in recruitment, as the club itself seemed to to recognise that its own recruitment set-up wasn't up to scratch when it shed its two chief scouts as part of an overhaul just weeks before the transfer window opened. So, fine. It reflects terribly on the club, but different rules apply for this transfer window.

The issue I have with the Arnautovic signing isn't that it's an ETH-driven target. It's that I don't believe it could be anything other than a signing right from the very bottom of the list of ETH-driven targets. A signing you only resort to in an emergency situation where the club has failed to secure multiple better options in that position the manager wanted.

In other words it's almost exactly the same thing Van Gaal (and others) complained about. We signed players, we were told they were his choices, then he later pointed out they were his choices after the club failed to secure all the players he wanted more.

ETH wanting Arnautovic once he's put in a situation where its Arnautovic or nothing isn't really the same as him wanting Arnautovic. And to your Conte comparison, I don't think any of Bissouma, Richarlison, Perisic or Lenglet were as far down on his list of options as Arnautovic is for ETH. They actually secured his higher priority targets to a degree we've failed to.
 

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I can't think of a more depressing signing the club has made in my lifetime. Not just the player but what it represents about where we are and what we're clearly about now. I just can't excuse it or make peace with it. I hope it doesn't happen.
 

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Hoped today would be a decent opening day of the season for our new manager. Feck me. Imagine if Netflix had actually commissioned a series filming the goings on at our gaff over the last three years. Highest rated shitshow ever.
 

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Imagine finishing the transfer window with Martinez, Eriksen, Malacia and Arnautovic. Right up there with the Fred, Dalot and Grant window.
 

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I didn't realise Pro Evo's random player-ball signing thing was based on how United conduct transfers.

He said “Jebem ti majku šiptarsku” about 2 or 3 times (to North Macedonia’s player, who is of ethnic Albanian origin), Serbian for “I f**k your Albanian mother”, but using the word “Šiptarsku” for “Albanian”, which is a pejorative racist slur.
Presuming this comes from his family being Serbian and the ill-will between them from Kosovo/the 90's?
 

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I've been willing to give Murtough the benefit of the doubt, but considering he even entertained the idea, let alone pursue it, makes him look like an incompetent fool. A better dof would assert his authority and draw the line here. If he isn't willing to overrule ten Hag on things like this, there is no point to him.

Furthermore, if we are trying to penny-pinch here, surely that means that we are defintely going to spend more money, even if de Jong should sign, right?!