Congratulations goes to Sadio Mane

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So after she blew out 18 candles she most likely blew something else as well.
 

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Also as a side note, how fecking creepy are the Germans? 14 as the age of consent? Really?!
This is kind of ironic when you think about it
Just following the contrarians «law abiding» perspective. 18 is adulthood (physically), and at least better than 14-17 yo wouldn’t you say? I don’t like the CEO much, and if he’d told me the same I’d probably tell him to do one. However, I respect his honesty. It was simple as «doesn’t look good for the company». Your choice
 

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To be fair, with "not on social media and prays well" as requirements, his options were limited.
 

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According to the three strike system he's still good!

Strike 1: Played for Liverpool
Strike 2: Grooming
Strike 3: ?
Doesn't he get a strike back for punching a former Man City player?
 

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Also as a side note, how fecking creepy are the Germans? 14 as the age of consent? Really?!

Just following the contrarians «law abiding» perspective. 18 is adulthood (physically), and at least better than 14-17 yo wouldn’t you say? I don’t like the CEO much, and if he’d told me the same I’d probably tell him to do one. However, I respect his honesty. It was simple as «doesn’t look good for the company». Your choice
I'm just saying it's a bit weird to get arsey about who his employee is dating as it seems a bit controlling, which is probably the biggest worry you'd have about the age gap factor.

Hopefully the guy's next date was vetted by HR thoroughly.
 

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You know the age of consent is different in different countries right?
"Millionaire grooming the teen is fine lads, move one!" (x10)
You know that the age of consent has nothing to do with the fact a 16 or 18 year old is not an adult. I'm frankly very surprised and slightly disgusted with what determination you are insisting that being a borderline pedo creep is totally fine as long as the law says it's fine. Clearly laws are always completely correct and never need to be updated as society moves one. (Especially laws that are created by old men to allow old men to shag teens)
I really hope you don't have access to be around teenagers a lot.
 

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Which is also weird
Probably weirder, much bigger age gap and no waiting.

In time 21 and 34 won't seem that weird or say 27 and 40 years old. When it starts is the creepy part but Macron and Brigitte have been together a long time. The 25 year gap always remains weird for me though.
 

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Probably weirder, much bigger age gap and no waiting.

In time 21 and 34 won't seem that weird or say 27 and 40 years old.
I'm of the opinion he was groomed by her but it's worked out for them so nobody is really questioning it.
 

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The age gap isn’t the issue in itself, by the way. That would be fine if this wasn’t an obvious instance of grooming. Couldn’t give a shit if they were 60 and 30.
 

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I'm just saying it's a bit weird to get arsey about who his employee is dating as it seems a bit controlling, which is probably the biggest worry you'd have about the age gap factor.

Hopefully the guy's next date was vetted by HR thoroughly.
Haha, I get you. It’s all about money with these guys. He was just looking at the optics. These guys aren’t just working together, it’s like a creepy incestous «family». Also, the guy in question showed his mettle there I think, folding like a house of cards. Anyway, I thought it was interesting, because I’ve never heard anything comparable, if anything there’d be high fives or some such.
 

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Also as a side note, how fecking creepy are the Germans? 14 as the age of consent? Really?!
When puberty hits and you feel the urge, you can legally become sexually active here, yes. And by simply having rules that an adolescent may not be exploited normal relationships are never in legal trouble. And legally it's just no difference if one is 18 or 81 under German law, so what's allowed for an 18 yo is allowed for everybody.

Rules and limits only exist to prevent exploitation or abusing a position of power, like a teacher with his/her student would not be allowed.
 

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When puberty hits and you feel the urge, you can legally become sexually active here, yes. And by simply having rules that an adolescent may not be exploited normal relationships are never in legal trouble. And legally it's just no difference if one is 18 or 81 under German law, so what's allowed for an 18 yo is allowed for everybody.

Rules and limits only exist to prevent exploitation or abusing a position of power, like a teacher with his/her student would not be allowed.
Huh, I always believed the Internet story that Germany has two-tiered system for age of consent (14-21 being one tier, and over 16 another). Is that a myth or just more complicated than people on Internet make it out to be?
 

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that's your opinion, doesn't mean the whole world is obliged to agree to it.
no shit sherlock

have you ever met anyone who believes the whole world should agree with their opinion?
 

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When puberty hits and you feel the urge, you can legally become sexually active here, yes. And by simply having rules that an adolescent may not be exploited normal relationships are never in legal trouble. And legally it's just no difference if one is 18 or 81 under German law, so what's allowed for an 18 yo is allowed for everybody.

Rules and limits only exist to prevent exploitation or abusing a position of power, like a teacher with his/her student would not be allowed.
Yes, I don’t know why you did the copy paste of the letter of the law? I’m saying that a 30 yo is good to bang a 14yo is more than a little creepy imo. Even 16 is a child. I realize people have to make their own choices based on their conviction, but I’m 34 now, have lived a life, and I can’t picture myself finding something meaningful with anyone under ~26 myself.
 

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That's a lovely way to just brush some garden variety noncing under the rug.
On the other hand it's trivializing a serious issue by using it as an accusation in a situation which is actually your personal disagreement with someone's personal choice.

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Doesn't concern me.

Actually I just read and you're also classified as a minor in Senegal under the age of 18. So it wouldn't matter if you are in the UK, Germany or Senegal. In each situation Mane has courted someone who wasn't an adult and clearly, by this thread, most people think it's odd to do so.
So why hasn't he been charged for it?
 

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Being with a teen in your 20s isn't that unusual. I was with a 19 year old when I was 20.
Not sure if you are taking the piss to be fair. Comparing a one year age gap from a grown man dating a girl that's just left school and reached the legal age for sexual intercourse is absolutely insane.
 

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How large must a religion/culture become before we forgive grooming?

Relativism is the death of debate.
 

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So why hasn't he been charged for it?
Why does he need to be charged for it to be weird behaviour? If you don't think it's odd and you're liable for moral judgement for being an adult and courting a minor then I think that says more about you. There are plenty of things that are legal that shouldn't be and some things that are illegal or have been that shouldnt be/have been. Largely, people morally agree that an adult pursuing a 16 year old is wrong.
 
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