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Dutch publication De Telegraaf first reported the investigation. Horner has denied any wrongdoing, and the complaint is allegedly about his aggressive management style.
 

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I figured this would be the case. He's a cnut but never struck me as a sexual creep.
 

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are red bull later than everyone else so horner can take more photos on it?
 

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A statement from Red Bull Austria - the Austrian energy drinks firm which owns the F1 team - confirmed a probe was ongoing. It said: 'After becoming aware of recent allegations, the company initiated an independent investigation. This investigation, which is already underway, is being carried out by an external specialised lawyer.

'The company takes these matters extremely seriously and the investigation will be complete as soon as practicable. It would not be appropriate to make any further comments at this time.'


Confirmation of the probe on Monday follows 36 hours of denials from the team based in Milton Keynes of any alleged wrongdoing. Horner has also described the accusations as 'nuts', in a message protesting his innocence to MailOnline.

According to Horner loyalists, he is the victim of an internal fight within the broader Red Bull family.

Once protected by Red Bull founder Dietrich Mateschitz, the claim he is now exposed to forces out to do him down since Mateschitz died in October 2022, aged 79.

Horner's defenders say the accusations are smears aimed at unseating him from power in an attempt to wrest control to Salzburg, the home of the fizzy drinks company that lends its name to the F1 team – the dominant force of the current era with Max Verstappen winning the last three world titles.
 

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Genuinely think if Horner goes that team could unravel.

Newey is getting on and although red bull pretty much let him do what he wants he has nothing left to achieve there.

He's always wanted to work at Ferrari but retirement or stepping away from F1 altogether could easily be his next step. From what I understand he is pretty close with Horner and hasn't been afraid to walk away from winning teams in the past when things he didn't like happened (mansell and hill being let go at Williams without his say, Ron Dennis playing politics at McLaren).
 

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Sprint weekend races schedule has changed.


Friday: Free Practice 1 and Sprint qualifying

Saturday: Sprint and Grand Prix qualifying

Sunday: Grand Prix

The six weekends Sprints are due to take place in 2024 are in China, Miami, Austria, Brazil, Las Vegas and Qatar.
 

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DRS activation to change and power unit allocation to increase
To try and encourage more overtaking the F1 Commission announced that DRS [drag reduction system] overtaking would be activated after one lap of a start or restart, rather than after two laps as had previously been the case.

Alongside that, with the F1 calendar expanding to a record 24 races, an approval to increase each driver’s power unit allocation from three to four has happened for 2024 and 2025, before the sport’s reset in engine regulations in 2026.
 

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The Williams looks good, but is completely overshadowed by the Sauber. The green looks great.
 

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If the complaint is about Horner being aggressive or mean then it's a nothing burger.
 

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Unfortunately lots of black seems to be thing with most cars on the grid these days :(
Yeah everyone's weight saving. FIA should have been smart enough to nip this in the bud last year when these partial carbon liveries started showing up, now its like 60% black or something
 

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Seems like serious shit stirring from inside the RB corporation.
Hasn't there been reports of a power struggle between a few of them up top in that team for a while? I think they just want him out. Saying that I think Jonathan Wheatley will be a good replacement if it's true he could take over.
 

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hearing set for friday. he’s toast.
 

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Again not saying Horner is innocent (or guilty for that matter) - but this type of shit unfortunately is so common at the tops of organizations when power struggles happen. Everyone has skeletons in their closet, especially the closer to the top you get - it's just a matter of when some parties decide they don't care about protecting you and feel secure in having support around them to protect their own skin. Everyone knows that being able to protect yourself against claims of harassment and discrimination is neigh impossible these days. There were long rumors of power struggles within RB even before Dieterich's passing.
 

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If Horner does get the sack as it looks like some of the higher ups in the European side of the operation want him out, how long will Fred vasseur last at ferrari, because it would be a no brainer and hilarious to see Hamilton being bossed by Horner
 

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The investigation into Red Bull team principal Christian Horner reportedly centres around his aggressive management style.
If this is the case and its what I have read from a few outlets, would this be enough to be sacked ?
I am no fan of his, but I suspect we have all worked for manager that has been aggressive and wanting results, arsehole yes, but cant deny he gets results.
 
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The investigation into Red Bull team principal Christian Horner reportedly centers around his aggressive management style.
If this is the case and its what I have read from a few outlets, would this be enough to be sacked ?
I am no fan of his, but I suspect we have all worked for manager that has been aggressive and wanting results, arsehole yes, but cant deny he gets results.
There is a limit for how aggressive you can be. Abusive or threatening behavior to straight up physical and you're done in my book. I don't know where Red Bull draws their line for what they can accept from an employee at one of their marketing ventures. It can be any number of things and it's all speculation and guesswork for now.
 

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The investigation into Red Bull team principal Christian Horner reportedly centres around his aggressive management style.
If this is the case and its what I have read from a few outlets, would this be enough to be sacked ?
Obviously not. But it's probably someone being used as a pawn in RB corporate power games.

Though if Horner has made enough enemies for this sort of thing to happen then he could end up forced out regardless.
 

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Yeah I agree, colours could work but a very lazy generic livery.

It actually infuriates me how bad 90% of liveries are when people on the internet can create incredible ones, particular the backmarker teams who could create fans just by having amazing liveries.
 

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Just a grid full of black carbon fibre cars at this rate.