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A right-wing Israeli mob came to my family’s home yesterday to search for me, threatening close family members who fled to another town in the middle of the night. I am still getting death threats and had to cancel my flight home. This happened after Israeli media and German politicians absurdly labeled my Berlinale award speech - where I called for equality between Israelis and Palestinians, a ceasefire and an end to apartheid - as ‘antisemitic’. The appalling misuse of this word by Germans, not only to silence Palestinian critics of Israel, but also to silence Israelis like me who support a ceasefire that will end the killing in Gaza and allow the release of the Israeli hostages - empties the word antisemitism of meaning and thus endangers Jews all over the world. As my grandmother was born in a concentration camp in Libya and most of my grandfather’s family was murdered by Germans in the holocaust, I find it particularly outraging that German politicians in 2024 have the audacity to weaponize this term against me in a way that endangered my family. But above all else, this behavior puts Palestinian co-director Basel Adra’s life in danger, who lives under a military occupation surrounded by violent settlements in Masafer Yatta. He is in far greater danger than I am. I’m happy our award winning film, No Other Land, is sparking an important international debate on this issue - and I hope that millions of people watch it when it comes out this year. Sparking a conversation is why we made it. You can have harsh criticism of what me and Basel said on stage without demonizing us. If this is what you’re doing with your guilt for the holocaust - I don’t want your guilt.
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Who does the administration think this is winning over ? At this point it seem every leak or news is designed to piss off voters.
i think Dem partisans like it because they can point to this stuff (without bothering witbh the specifics) and say biden is minimizing the damage.
 

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i think Dem partisans like it because they can point to this stuff (without bothering witbh the specifics) and say biden is minimizing the damage.
I did see someone on the forum today describe the genocide as a “policy disagreement”. The Dem partisans still going strong.
That's exactly what I felt.
I guess at end of the day comedians even the ones that still behind desks in suits are just clowns. When they have to talk about serious issues it really shows how useless their platform is.
 

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I did see someone on the forum today describe the genocide as a “policy disagreement”. The Dem partisans still going strong.

I guess at end of the day comedians even the ones that still behind desks in suits are just clowns. When they have to talk about serious issues it really shows how useless their platform is.
I personally think that comedians can be a powerful voice that can reach very far, when they've got knowledge and a backbone.

This clown has neither.
 

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I personally think that comedians can be a powerful voice that can reach very far, when they've got knowledge and a backbone.

This clown has neither.
The thing is Jon Stewart has shown before that he can approach important topics with the degree of seriousness and emotional depth that they require. That's part of the reason he's so popular in the first place. Take his work to get healthcare coverage for 9/11 first responders, when congress was stalling on providing the funding. When it's something he cares deeply about, he can be incredibly effective. So the conclusion one could be lead to is that he simply doesn't care deeply about this. Or he has just lost a step.

I personally think the first two segments since his comeback were quite good, but they dealt with topics that are more in his wheelhouse - the absurdity of the Biden/Trump choice and the Tucker Carlson interview. You just can't apply the same comedic approach to a genocide and expect it to work. But again, maybe it's because Stewart thinks of this as a conflict and not a genocide (I'm not going to check if he used that word, but I don't think he did).
 

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I don't think this is truem
I haven’t made my mind up personally, but he did say, before his protest suicide, that he doesn’t want to be complicit in it which could suggest something we’re not privy too. There’s also been a few disparate reports of Gazans fleeing having seen US forces. Who knows in any case.
 

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This seems wildly speculative since the source is a "buddy" interviewed by the N.Y. Post. It could be true, but if it was, why wouldn't Aaron Bushnell not either leak evidence to news outlets, or at the very least mention more explicitly in the intro to his video?
 

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The New Antisemitism

Another attempt to whitewash zionist crimes in a major paper, will any Palestinian be invited for a rebuttal?

This is a good one even if it doesn't have the same reach.

 

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Four children die of malnutrition: Gaza Health Ministry

The ministry says the four children died of extreme dehydration of malnutrition at the Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza, while seven others remain in critical condition.
 

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This seems wildly speculative since the source is a "buddy" interviewed by the N.Y. Post. It could be true, but if it was, why wouldn't Aaron Bushnell not either leak evidence to news outlets, or at the very least mention more explicitly in the intro to his video?
Yep.


“Aaron has not been doing his military job for like four months so there's no way he has had access to any intelligence. Also I don't think there being American troops on the ground in Gaza would be the thing to push him to do this. He had a strong enough analysis to recognize the US role regardless of whether or not there were literal Americans soldiers on the ground.”
 

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This seems wildly speculative since the source is a "buddy" interviewed by the N.Y. Post. It could be true, but if it was, why wouldn't Aaron Bushnell not either leak evidence to news outlets, or at the very least mention more explicitly in the intro to his video?
Yes, its basically red meat among pro-Hamas accounts, but almost certainly not likely grounded in any reality, particularly among those who understand how the military works. Klippenstein's piece was pretty balanced though I thought.
 

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Four children die of malnutrition: Gaza Health Ministry

The ministry says the four children died of extreme dehydration of malnutrition at the Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza, while seven others remain in critical condition.
This number will probably increase exponentially now
 

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Four children die of malnutrition: Gaza Health Ministry

The ministry says the four children died of extreme dehydration of malnutrition at the Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza, while seven others remain in critical condition.
 

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A huge massacre happened, and the scenes are harrowing which is why I won't post any tweets.

They fired on thousands waiting for aid, at least 77 Palestinians were killed and 250 wounded.
 

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The number of casualties is likely much higher than this.

Aid trucks turned to ambulances carrying the dead and injured.
 
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Aaron Bushnell, your name will truly live on!! He left all his possessions to a Palestinian children fund. His death is breathing life into humanity.

 

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The number of casualties is likely much higher than this.
It already reached over 100 murdered and 700 injured. These are the official numbers, people on the ground say the number of victims is over 1000.
 

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Do you want to hear what the first excuse from the zionist scum for this massacre is?

"They came close to us while receiving aid, so we shot at them".
 

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Watching the images of men and children dying in the sea or the offshore while trying to get to the aid and food is not only heartbreaking, but also a disgrace on every single human being in this world that lectures us on human values but turn their eyes on these people. It's a disgrace and a setback on humanity. The western world are in no fecking position to lecture the Eastern world on morality.

I know I sound emotional and not at all sensible, but how can I not be emotional seeing this, it made my blood boil.
 

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Victims of Gaza City attack say they were ambushed

The more we talk to people about what happened during the attack near Gaza City this morning, the more it becomes clear they feel it was a trap, an ambush.
As soon as people approached incoming trucks carrying food aid, they were shot at. There were attack drones in the sky. There was also fire from naval forces and armoured vehicles in the vicinity.
All at once, these military forces fired at a group of people who were hungry, traumatised and displaced. People who were just trying to get their hands on whatever they could to feed their families and stay alive.
The number of dead from the attack has now risen to 104 and there are still, unfortunately, injured people left on the road. Paramedics, civil defence crew and volunteers are trying to help get these people to hospitals, but are finding it very difficult to get to the area. We are expecting the number of casualties to increase even more in the coming hours.
This is what is left for people in northern Gaza – face starvation or risk one’s life trying to get aid.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/live...of-children-in-slow-motion-ngo?update=2740245