Mourinho always blames the players when things go wrong though and most of that team is not here anymore or weren't even first team players under him, they played the way ole wanted to do but he could not tactically make us work as a possession team and admitted ronaldo messed things up dramatically with our pressing, poor ralf was completely screwed as interim and that was largely down to ronaldo again who was absolutely toxic in undermining our managers
Who replaces Ten Hag?
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I know you’ll find this hard to believe, but shockingly no, I haven’t.
Ole didn't get to execute his plan properly because the players didn't want to run, we were still being outrun by lesser teams during Ole's time here. When he took over one of the first things he said was I want us to run more than all the other teams and be more robust, the players didn't respond to this. They still aren't doing it under Eth either.
Hopefully things change under Ineos but I think this is simply excuses of poor managers.
Every few years another manager comes in & waxes lyrical about what changes they will make. They all took the job knowing it was under Glazer rule so it was pretty clear what a clusterfeck they were coming into.
By the end of each of their times here each manager wasn’t simply unlucky, falling short of winning titles but were missing lowered expectations.
They then leave & all say the same thing but how many of them reflect on themselves? These squads are not title winning but in general none of these managers have been asked to win titles by the time they’ve left but be competent.
This EtH reign has been a clusterfeck on so many levels but not everything wrong has been done to him.
I have coached quite a bit. The amount of progress you can make with almost any kind of team is amazing if your training reflects tactics that you will face during a game.I know you’ll find this hard to believe, but shockingly no, I haven’t.
If, for example, you need to learn to play out of a high press, you have several drills to mimic that exact tactical problem. You can actually get 12 year olds to one-touch their way through that high pressure. If 12 year olds can do that, why can’t top professionals? Watching Ange transform that Spurs team shows it can be done, even at the highest levels.
To me, this is just coaching. Period. And I don’t think Ten Hag is good and installing his ideas, what ever those may be…
Seems like Nagelsmann is up for club football again.
Without a DoF i dont even know how we will decide who to appoint as the next manager.
That was expected. Surprising was only how clearly he voiced how he dislikes the working conditions of a national team coach in that same press conference (too little time to train and work on tactics etc)
Fergie wasn't a counter attacking manager? Sure, he used the tactic occasionally, but he was an attacking football manager first and foremost. This rewriting of Fergie has to stop.
I’m not saying this person should be the next Man Utd manager but after watching them play this season I just love the way they play, keep their shape, pass the ball and the movement of the players.
I give you Coventry City and their long serving manager Mark Robbins, his team look far better set up than United have been this season and what a match it was yesterday.
He has certainly learned his trade and talks very well.
I give you Coventry City and their long serving manager Mark Robbins, his team look far better set up than United have been this season and what a match it was yesterday.
He has certainly learned his trade and talks very well.
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I know it’s only Ogden but it’s concerning this rumour just isn’t going away.
I don't think Southgate is that guy either, but he'd be more respected if had done the same job with Germany/Spain/The Netherlands.
A lot of people are still put off by that spell at Middlesbrough early in his career.
It'd certainly be a massive risk by Ratcliffe.
I seen this in the DM this morning but did not repeat it as i don't think its deserves the oxygen. The only way i would welcome him at Utd is as a new Fred the Red and only then under the condition that the current lad is voluntarily retiring.
All the momentum behind the Ineos takeover would be dead in the water bringing that wet blanket in 
Careful what you wish for Reds.
Bald is best.
Bald is best.
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I cannot believe this to be true. No one can be that thick.
I hope England get bombed out of the Euros in the group stage in humiliating fashion to put to bed any notion that Southgate is an elite manager.
That might just turn some ETH out people onto the ETH in lane
Oh good god please no
Ten Hag may not be the solution but good god Southgate sure as hell isn't
Ineos consistently seem linked with underwhelming managers. Might actually prefer one of their cycling guys to Southgate
Ineos consistently seem linked with underwhelming managers. Might actually prefer one of their cycling guys to Southgate
Southgate? Really? The most overrated manager!
I will be INEOS out if that happens!
The most overrated manager!I will be INEOS out if that happens!
I am dreading this, each time I see this rumour I pray we get some news rebuffing such a rumour, because it would be a mistake we can ill afford to make at this stage in our progression.
Don‘t worry. We will get Potter or a comeback of Mourinho
Even the shattered remains of Jose's career would be better than fecking SouthgateDon‘t worry. We will get Potter or a comeback of Mourinho
There are so many managers I'd rather take than Southgate. I cannot believe any serious person would want him.
Ashworth reportedly a big fan. Sometimes the caf doesn't always know best.
Ah here, this has to be bullsh*t. I’d rather replace ETH with an inanimate carbon rod
I just read that Southgate is tipped to be first choice if ETH is shown the boot and honestly I’d rather be managed by Jamie Carragher than let Southgate anywhere near the managers office.
Why would you carefully bring in all these expert back office types to then finish off the project with the most uninspiring manager to ever walk the face of the earth. It would be like painting everything in grey. Grey carpet, grey walls, grey furniture, grey everything. Just no…. Groups need to get on Twitter and make it known nobody wants him near United.
Why would you carefully bring in all these expert back office types to then finish off the project with the most uninspiring manager to ever walk the face of the earth. It would be like painting everything in grey. Grey carpet, grey walls, grey furniture, grey everything. Just no…. Groups need to get on Twitter and make it known nobody wants him near United.
I'm with you on that.
Based on what? No other reporter is corroborating the same and it's easy to make lazy FA links to grab headlines.
Also whilst accepting the caf isn't always right, the almost unanimous opinion that Southgate is a terrible idea would suggest he probably would be shite.
Southgate is probably the best name to mention if you want a lot of clicks and a horde of riled up United fans.
I'll be concerned if reputable sources start linking him to the job as well.
I'll be concerned if reputable sources start linking him to the job as well.
Judging by Ratcliffe's comments today in which he was praising Arsenal for giving Artetta time, I think this is just media stirring the pot.I expect INEOS will be patient with ETH, but of course if we lose quite a few games between now and end of the season even with injured players coming back, they might want to move in a new direction either partway through next season or in the summer.
I think you are right, its almost as if the media had these stories ready to go working under the assumption Liverpool beat us on Sunday. Now they decide to run this sh^!e anyway. I don't know anyone who could get excited about a scenario of Southgate arriving.
I don't get it. Everyone knows he is shit
Not a chance.
Southgate will get another contract from the FA for doing well and being very unlucky this summer.
Zero possibility any top 10 side (bar West Ham) would have him as their manager.
Southgate will get another contract from the FA for doing well and being very unlucky this summer.
Zero possibility any top 10 side (bar West Ham) would have him as their manager.
Yeah I mean this kind of stuff sells which is why they put it out there. Notice how Ogden says 'if Ten Hag loses his job', that in itself is speculative.
Where can I see his comments today?
With the euros close yes, in England he would be biggest clicks. Smart way for United for people all over England to think about United.Southgate is probably the best name to mention if you want a lot of clicks and a horde of riled up United fans.
I'll be concerned if reputable sources start linking him to the job as well.
On RAWK they find all his footballing accomplishments thus far as underwhelming. They don’t even want him top 3 or 5.
They’re convinced Xabi is going to them, although I don’t think they realize it’s his audition for the Madrid job. No idea why they think they would beat Bayern for his signature and I didn’t see De Zerbi on a lot of their list.
I wouldn’t be surprised if De Zerbi ends up here
Go on youtube to see comments all the Utd fanzine channels have it
And his utterly abysmal U-21 record.
The man has been repeatedly rewarded for underperforming.