Pochettino Chelsea Manager - Sack Watch

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You know what, Brendan Rodgers would be a great fit for you.
It's very telling that I honestly considered this for a fraction of a second

We've got him sewn up for next season, sorry.
I cannot even begin to describe how pissed off I will be if Tuchel goes to anyone else in the PL. Firing him was the second stupidest thing Chelsea have ever done, second only to selling KdB for peanuts with 3.5 years left on his contract to appease Mourinho.
 

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Sack this prick. Bring Tuchel back and get out of his way.
 

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As funny as it looks, the scoreline is a bit harsh as they had 1.6 xG today
We should've lost 3-1 to Liverpool looking at xG but it ended 7-0. Feckers scored 7 out of 8 shots, insane.

On Poch and Chelsea: still can see club keeping him. There were at least promising signs at times and it's his 1st season in charge unlike ten Hag so different situation in that regard.

Do we think Poch would have done a better job than Ten Hag?
Not sure, I rate Poch but his record in finals is concerning and who knows perhaps we'd lost that CC final last year vs Newcastle with him charge.

This owner sacked Tuchel so can't see him coming back. Have a feeling it'll be Liverpool or United for him.
 

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Guess we're Cole Palmer FC then.
This is a particularly embarrassing quote, I actually can't quite believe it's real.

Why would you give the media that kind of fuel to throw at you in a game where you are the underdog anyway?!
 

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Chelsea are dreadful. So bad. They are like a bunch of children.. totally disjointed..do they actually train together, at all. Never seen a team that is so focused on individuals.

Poch' has to take a look at how he is working with those players.
 

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Chelsea are dreadful. So bad. They are like a bunch of children.. totally disjointed..do they actually train together, at all. Never seen a team that is so focused on individuals.

Poch' has to take a look at how he is working with those players.
So.. just like us?
 

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Chelsea are dreadful. So bad. They are like a bunch of children.. totally disjointed..do they actually train together, at all. Never seen a team that is so focused on individuals.

Poch' has to take a look at how he is working with those players.
If he had any sense he would have dropped Maduke and Jackson after the penalty incident. Then Maduke was laughing and joking at the FA Cup semi final whistle.
 

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Who would’ve thought both Poch and the bald Dutch fraud will be duds. What are the chances of that?
 

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Who would’ve thought both Poch and the bald Dutch fraud will be duds. What are the chances of that?
Just happens that both Chelsea and United are run by clowns, what are the odds?
 

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Just happens that both Chelsea and United are run by clowns, what are the odds?
Is it the club or the managers? Makes for a desertation proposal.
I reckon is a bit of both, the league has got many managers and teams with a bit about themselves and these guys have found the competition too stiff, but the club structure has not helped either
 

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Who would’ve thought both Poch and the bald Dutch fraud will be duds. What are the chances of that?
Ten Hag is the surprise, Pochettino had already proved it.
 

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Is it the club or the managers? Makes for a desertation proposal.
I reckon is a bit of both, the league has got many managers and teams with a bit about themselves and these guys have found the competition too stiff, but the club structure has not helped either
They are good managers, not good enough to win the league, made to look worse than they are by disfunctional clubs, that's how I see it.
 

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Oh please shut it! Neither of Poch or ETH are frauds. Both teams are showing same symptoms with multiple managers. Clearly the structure of the club is fecked. I am positive about united cause they are cleaning up their act behind the scene. And fully expect ETH to be the attacking manager he was in the years to come if he is backed and properly serviced by the club.
 

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Oh please shut it! Neither of Poch or ETH are frauds. Both teams are showing same symptoms with multiple managers. Clearly the structure of the club is fecked. I am positive about united cause they are cleaning up their act behind the scene. And fully expect ETH to be the attacking manager he was in the years to come if he is backed and properly serviced by the club.
What has Poch ever achieved in his career that makes you think he's a top manager?
 

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What has Poch ever achieved in his career that makes you think he's a top manager?
I don't think he is a top manager but neither is he a fraud. A very decent coach who has made some stupid career choices after leaving spurs. He can never work at a very top club where success is the measuring stick. Chelsea are a right mess right now. Put arteta there and he will look the same.
 

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Is it the club or the managers? Makes for a desertation proposal.
I reckon is a bit of both, the league has got many managers and teams with a bit about themselves and these guys have found the competition too stiff, but the club structure has not helped either
Proper philosophical question this.
 

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I don't think he is a top manager but neither is he a fraud. A very decent coach who has made some stupid career choices after leaving spurs. He can never work at a very top club where success is the measuring stick. Chelsea are a right mess right now. Put arteta there and he will look the same.
I agree that Chelsea are a mess and it's hard to go in and do a good job which is why I don't agree with people that say Potter is a bad manager, he's a good one. Poch also is a good manager but not a top one. I think there are still many pundits and people in football that do think he's a top one hence why I don't think fraud in that respect is too harsh.
 

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I don't think he is a top manager but neither is he a fraud. A very decent coach who has made some stupid career choices after leaving spurs. He can never work at a very top club where success is the measuring stick. Chelsea are a right mess right now. Put arteta there and he will look the same.
"Put arteta there and he will look the same."

That right there is a lazy argument. Of course a manager like Arteta would struggle at first if put in Pochettino's shoes but that's because his playing style is very ambitious and demanding of his players so it's only natural it takes a while to fully implement it. With the likes of Arteta and Klopp the foundation for a highly successful game system was laid early on and despite some early struggles it was clear for everyone to see what they were trying to do but it just wasn't working because the players were not yet fully comfortable with the system and they also still needed a few key improvements from the transfer market to complete the build.

Pochettino on the other hand, what is he even trying to do? We've played 45 games this season and having watched all but maybe one or two of those I honestly have no idea what kind of playing style Poch is trying to build here. We're not solid at the back, the midfield is all over the place and the attack is overly reliant on moments of individual brilliance rather than team play. The squad is far from perfect and is severely lacking in experience but whichever way one wants to look at it, things shouldn't be this bad on this many levels after almost a full season under Poch.

I wouldn't even begrudge Pochfor the bad results if there were even small improvements to be seen in general team play because at the very least that would give some hope of things improving with more time, but terrible results, terrible performances and seeing the same mistakes week-in week-out puts Poch firmly in the fraud category for me.
 

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Oh please shut it! Neither of Poch or ETH are frauds. Both teams are showing same symptoms with multiple managers. Clearly the structure of the club is fecked. I am positive about united cause they are cleaning up their act behind the scene. And fully expect ETH to be the attacking manager he was in the years to come if he is backed and properly serviced by the club.
Both are massively underachieving whilst both clubs are having structural and organizational issues.
I am not positive about Utd unfortunately, I have absolutely no reason to. Especially if ETH stays.
 

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Majority of their fans seem to be up in arms. They want him gone. I think he deserves another season, and the last thing we need is another club in search of a manager.