So looks like a swap deal is on the cards, then?
David Ornstein: Man Utd want to keep Marcus Rashford | Consideration of sale if Rashford wants to take on a new challenge or a substantial bid arrives
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
He's due to have a worldie next season anyway.
Here’s hoping
i think we should announce him with a video of him playing the piano
Stone on it too
Definitely a brief by the club.
Hopefully the long touted fire sale is actually happening this summer!
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"Getting him back to top form"..."unless substantial bids".
The thin is last season was prob once in a lifetime form where everything goes golden, take that away and what level os his top form and what is a substatial bid?
As personally his top form so far, Id take £70m for him anyway, I think anything over £50m is a good deal,especially losingthose ludirous wages from our books
The thin is last season was prob once in a lifetime form where everything goes golden, take that away and what level os his top form and what is a substatial bid?
As personally his top form so far, Id take £70m for him anyway, I think anything over £50m is a good deal,especially losingthose ludirous wages from our books
Bruno and Dalot yes. Onana, I don't think would be safe if a new manager with his own preferred style of keeper comes in.
Selling Rashford, Varane, and Casemiro, would get rid of some dead weight, and free up some serious cash this summer.
When you also factor in players like, Greenwood, Martial, Eriksen, Van De Beek, etc, that are bound to leave as well, then it could be a fun transfer window.
When you also factor in players like, Greenwood, Martial, Eriksen, Van De Beek, etc, that are bound to leave as well, then it could be a fun transfer window.
Could this not be considered abuse in the workplace?
Looks that way alright
Varane's out of contract anyway, since the club has elected not to take up its option for another year. At least that's a positive sign. No "protecting the value" of a player no club would pay a transfer fee for anyway.
Not consistent enough.
I'll drive them all myself to their destination clubs.
A lot of managers nowadays prefer to build from the back and therefore opt for ball playing keepers.
Depending on whether the ball is being played to one's own team or opposition.
The squad is probably laughing at the reports. "Yeah good luck shifting us on our wages".
We have a knack of turning players into shit because Onana was an elite ball playing keeper at Ajax and Inter.
That being said, I don't think he's done badly, and I do think when he has a settled back four ahead of him, we'll see the form he showed at his respective clubs.
That's very positive. Everyone hung out to dry really bar the three youths. I suspect Martinez, Dalot, and to a lesser extent Onana and Shaw, are considered pretty important players, even though good offers might be considered for Shaw due to his horrific fitness record and Onana due to his inconsistency doing goal keeper things.
I cannot imagine Casemiro, Varane and Eriksen staying beyond this season. If rumoured wages are accurate, then that's close to 40m off the annual wage bill. It's also an opportunity to get some money for AWB, and hope people will make offers for Lindelof, Maguire and McTominay. Maguire has been very good in fairness to him and he's navigated the shitstorm that surrounded him really well. One of the very few who makes himself constantly available too, which is such a bonus for this frail squad. But the game against Burnley really highlighted his pros and cons. Always willing to smash into people, doesn't lose physical battles, but his lack of recovery pace is a real killer for a team playing a high line unfortunately.
If the club then gets offers for Rashford and Greenwood FFP will be quite an easy thing to navigate.
I cannot imagine Casemiro, Varane and Eriksen staying beyond this season. If rumoured wages are accurate, then that's close to 40m off the annual wage bill. It's also an opportunity to get some money for AWB, and hope people will make offers for Lindelof, Maguire and McTominay. Maguire has been very good in fairness to him and he's navigated the shitstorm that surrounded him really well. One of the very few who makes himself constantly available too, which is such a bonus for this frail squad. But the game against Burnley really highlighted his pros and cons. Always willing to smash into people, doesn't lose physical battles, but his lack of recovery pace is a real killer for a team playing a high line unfortunately.
If the club then gets offers for Rashford and Greenwood FFP will be quite an easy thing to navigate.
True but it's nice to think they're all getting a big wage cut. It'll help a bit with Sancho and maybe Casemiro/Antony/Rashford sales.
Is this not the case for every footballer?
Not really to the extent it's worth briefing to the press.
The wages released by selling Rashford, should allow Utd to accept a more realistic offer.
Nobody is going to put in a massive bid and match his current salary.
Let’s face it, if most Utd fans are no longer blinkered and can see this players limitations and poor character, why would you think any prospective buyers are blissful unaware?
It’s not as if he’s been a consistently top player, who’s just going through a spell of poor form.
Nobody is going to put in a massive bid and match his current salary.
Let’s face it, if most Utd fans are no longer blinkered and can see this players limitations and poor character, why would you think any prospective buyers are blissful unaware?
It’s not as if he’s been a consistently top player, who’s just going through a spell of poor form.
Wow it only took two seasons to realise Rangnicks analysis of the squad was dead on. He may be a shit manager. He knew what he was saying about the squad though.
I foresee a wrestling match, Rashy sobbing in a Mancunian thigh-lock, crying out for a tag team partner to bail him out of the physical predicament, and Salah flying in with a Bat-formed kite, playing Walk Like An Egyptian on German bagpipes of the Baden-Würtemberg tradition, reciting the Ji Sung Park chant with a mock scouse accent. I see tears flowing, hearts throbbing, pedestalls toppling.
I know we say it every summer but this is probably the biggest summer window for the club in the PL era, to genuinely change the culture at the club there needs to be lots of incomings and outgoings and that goes across the club from the head coach to the players and the footballing hierarchy above both.
What we can’t do is sell ourselves short like we do with outgoing transfers or extend players contract to ‘protect their value’ so saying we’d only let players go for substantial fees gauges interest from other clubs and brings them to the negotiating table, profile and marketability Rashford has a high value.
What we can’t do is sell ourselves short like we do with outgoing transfers or extend players contract to ‘protect their value’ so saying we’d only let players go for substantial fees gauges interest from other clubs and brings them to the negotiating table, profile and marketability Rashford has a high value.
We just need an idiotic club to come in.
Like how we are paying Mount £250k a week with a £60mil transfer fee, when he was on his last year of his contract.
Anyone expecting a huge clear out will be sadly disappointed.
It is great that Martial and Varane will be off the books, but it will cost transfer fee plus wages to bring replacements in. That makes a big dent into FFP.
McTominay, Maguire and AWB have a year left on their contrafts, so we can't expect to get much of a fee. We had the chance last year, but we decided to keep them.
It is great that Martial and Varane will be off the books, but it will cost transfer fee plus wages to bring replacements in. That makes a big dent into FFP.
McTominay, Maguire and AWB have a year left on their contrafts, so we can't expect to get much of a fee. We had the chance last year, but we decided to keep them.
Clear out is needed. I can only think of about 4 players that we should keep.
The biggest problem who is going to buy any of our players? They’re all on ridiculous wages. The players also know this and in recent times have shown they much rather sit on our bench then take a pay cut
The biggest problem who is going to buy any of our players? They’re all on ridiculous wages. The players also know this and in recent times have shown they much rather sit on our bench then take a pay cut
Eriksen, Varane and Casemiro are obvious candidates for the initial clear out. We won't renew Martial as well. That's a lot of wages already, should help a lot with FFP.
Unfortunately, that's all I see us doing this summer. Maybe AWB can be added to the list too if we are lucky.
Unfortunately, that's all I see us doing this summer. Maybe AWB can be added to the list too if we are lucky.
Garnacho, Bruno, Mainoo and Hojilund would be my definite four. With Varane, Shaw, Martinez and Dalot as outsiders depending on fitness.
Is this even by large the same squad? Probably around six or seven starters on Saturday weren't even around when he made those comments.
Wonder if the addition of they’ll let him leave if he wants a new challenge is an indicator of the conversation they’ve had with him, or intend to. Definitely sounds like they’re telling him to shape up or ship out, give some form of commitment or find a new challenge
For me it's.
Garnacho, Mainoo, Bruno, Hojlund, Amad, Dalot and Onana that I would keep. Martinez if he can keep fit.
Think INEOS have been listening a bit too much to the drama Queens on here and twitter.
Publicly announcing that your entire squad is despensible and irrelevant to you is a really, REALLY dumb thing to do.
It doesn't just affect the morale of pretty much every current player, but also warns anyone player with a single ounce of sense off wanting to join. You'd be better off staying at a Brighton or Fulham than joining a toxic environment at a club where you probably won't finish any higher and will face 50x the scrutiny.
We would also get relegated if we sold everyone except Garnacho, Mainoo and Hojlund, and would then have to sell them anyway. So the rest of the squad isn't for sale. So why come out and brief the fecking press that it is?
They're not going to sell Bruno and keep Mctominay for example, just to raise enough money to sign someone worse thwn Bruno.
Why do we always end up with complete and utter fecking imbeciles in charge?
Publicly announcing that your entire squad is despensible and irrelevant to you is a really, REALLY dumb thing to do.
It doesn't just affect the morale of pretty much every current player, but also warns anyone player with a single ounce of sense off wanting to join. You'd be better off staying at a Brighton or Fulham than joining a toxic environment at a club where you probably won't finish any higher and will face 50x the scrutiny.
We would also get relegated if we sold everyone except Garnacho, Mainoo and Hojlund, and would then have to sell them anyway. So the rest of the squad isn't for sale. So why come out and brief the fecking press that it is?
They're not going to sell Bruno and keep Mctominay for example, just to raise enough money to sign someone worse thwn Bruno.
Why do we always end up with complete and utter fecking imbeciles in charge?
He thinks he’s harshly treated here, good luck if he ends up at a team where match going fans demand success.
Only 4/11 who started were playing for us two seasons ago, and only 1/4 substitutes. People bang on about the same squad letting different managers down, but there has been massive turnover.
Those five who have stuck around have been the ones who have kept this particular manger in a job over the last two seasons: Bruno & Rashford last season, Bruno, McT & Maguire this season. Dalot should get a nod for actually being the whole full back who can stay fit too. Without them five, the manager would have been long gone by now.