Give it Giggsey til the end of the season.
2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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Plenty of Americans are fairly supportive of the idea of single-payer but the challenge will be selling it to them in the face of the rebuttals that'll come from Trump and co. Over here in the UK there were polls done which indicated people were a lot more supportive of Corbyn's policies when they didn't know they were actually his. Obviously he was able to recover that deficit to an extent with a good campaign but any US candidate would likely face the same problems, with the inevitable 'commie' jibes etc.
Ultimately I think personality will be the best indicator of a strong candidate though, even if it shouldn't be. Bernie would stand a strong chance because even when you take away his various policies, one of the strongest aspects of his political style is that he's a strong speaker who resonates with voters. A single-payer supporter that's either him, or someone in his ilk, will stand a decent chance if they can shrug off Trump's various criticisms while making him look silly. And it'll obviously help if they've got a close to perfect personal record...since Trump was able to drag down Hilary and deflect from his own assault allegations by drawing Bill Clinton into it etc.
Ultimately I think personality will be the best indicator of a strong candidate though, even if it shouldn't be. Bernie would stand a strong chance because even when you take away his various policies, one of the strongest aspects of his political style is that he's a strong speaker who resonates with voters. A single-payer supporter that's either him, or someone in his ilk, will stand a decent chance if they can shrug off Trump's various criticisms while making him look silly. And it'll obviously help if they've got a close to perfect personal record...since Trump was able to drag down Hilary and deflect from his own assault allegations by drawing Bill Clinton into it etc.
It will be Dwayne Johnson v Zuckerburg v Mark Cuban
And it is probably the perfect election for what the US has become.
And it is probably the perfect election for what the US has become.
No Stephen Colbert?
Idiocracy
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I wish he would. It'll just serve to split Trump's base. Trump fans vs Bannon fans vs traditional GOPs.
And still Dems may find a way to lose that.
The Trump v Bannon duel would be epic.
Oprah "actively considering" running in 2020 
Don't know whether to laugh or take it seriously. Leaning more towards the latter.Oprah "actively considering" running in 2020
Yesterdays speech now looks like it was well planned to see what the reaction would be.
Feck off. Career politicians aren't great either, but at least they generally know the ins-and-outs of the job role. Get someone in with experience in Law, international relations, climate science FFS.
I personally don't know whether Oprah would be a good choice for the Dems. We need to return to bringing qualified people who have experience in governance back to the forefront.
Yeah, politicians should have prior experience and knowledge before taking on the biggest political position available to them. Celebrities with no experience can feck right off - famous people who want the benefits of political fame without working for it and helping out communities etc over a number of years.
Its an awful idea.
MAGA v HARPO
haha re Oprah!
Actually I think I want her to run, for the ensuing inevitable drama.
Seriously, US politics is better than a TV show!!
Actually I think I want her to run, for the ensuing inevitable drama.
Seriously, US politics is better than a TV show!!
It's not a fecking game show its people's lives.
The world is fecked.
The world is fecked.
Its just pathetic. CNN are at it again and aren't learning their lessons from the criticism they received for their coverage of the 2016 election.
Forget who said it earlier but they suggested Biden-Oprah with Biden stepping down after a term
That might actually work.
Ivanka Humpalot 2020:
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...t-female-us-president-perhaps-she-already-is-
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...t-female-us-president-perhaps-she-already-is-
Is Oprah the flavor of the week now?
Its because of the speech she gave yesterday and it made the Hollywood crowd get hysterical.
I'm down for Oprah 2020, she can be like the worlds mum. I imagine her version of a power trip is giving everyone a free car.
Imagine the give aways.....
Don't think Biden will run.
No it wont work. Thats a terrible idea.
Just when you start thinking "Is this a jo..." and you remember the current state of affairs. Sad!
Is that a hunch? Am watching him closely for any signals...
Will be interesting.
A billionaire reality TV star without any political experience or ideas to run for president? Surely not, that's embarrassing.
The absurdity of the Democrats doing the exact thing they've been so hysterical about for the past two years would be kind of funny, to be honest. Full circle.
The absurdity of the Democrats doing the exact thing they've been so hysterical about for the past two years would be kind of funny, to be honest. Full circle.
It'll be that Kamala Harris or Warren. Can't see Booker getting through the primaries. Still too early for Gabbard and Kennedy.
He's DMC's best choice imo. They really lack suitable alternatives. Neither Bernie nor Warren have wider support. Harris is too unknown and would need a spectacular campaign.
Ivanka's campaign slogan: I'm With Hair
If I had to make an inevitably wrong guess, I'd say she'd likelier play the part of an influential endorser in the primary.
Wait Bernie doesnt have wider support?
Warren’s campaign would collapse before it really gets started IMO, way too much baggage and I don’t think she has the persona to rally a huge segment of the population IMHO.
Yes more likely, king (or queen) maker!
Well said
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