2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Listen, you know how sometimes in life a joke hits you that makes you smile and then laugh and then go run to your spouse so very proud of yourself and then she give THAT look and you get sad.

That was my joke. I am now sad and also very proud.
 

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Listen, you know how sometimes in life a joke hits you that makes you smile and then laugh and then go run to your spouse so very proud of yourself and then she give THAT look and you get sad.

That was my joke. I am now sad and also very proud.
:lol: its Friday. You're supposed to laugh at stupid jokes and get drunk.
 

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I hope he can do it. Seeing Graham’s pathetic miserable chops sucking up to Biden for four years while simultaneously attempting to block his every move will get very tiring.
 

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I hope he can do it. Seeing Graham’s pathetic miserable chops sucking up to Biden for four years while simultaneously attempting to block his every move will get very tiring.
All the gay prostitutes in D.C. will finally be able to tell their story.
 

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Just despicable behaviour. Looking forward to the GOP getting smashed in 2 weeks time.

 
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Just despicable behaviour. Looking forward to the GOP getting smashed in 2 weeks time.

Yet he will be so chummy with her while in the Senate due to its rules. It’s insane. It’s outright bigotry which plays to the simpletons, the less intelligent among us.
 

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Yet he will be so chummy with her while in the Senate due to its rules. It’s insane. It’s outright bigotry which plays to the simpletons, the less intelligent among us.
I think Kamala Harris is the person to hold those grudges and remember them, which I know isn't liked by everyone but will be good for the Dems.
 

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I think Kamala Harris is the person to hold those grudges and remember them, which I know isn't liked by everyone but will be good for the Dems.
This smacks a bit (no, a lot) like the ‘macaca’ slur Senator Allen uttered years ago. Unfortunately, racism is much more overt nowadays & the political blowback will be undoubtedly less.
 

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Told ya all that Trump is a magician. Finally a high quality Alaska poll. Looks very much in play but trump will likely win as Biden has done nothing there and Jorgensen will siphon votes.

As an aside Trump is getting absolutely killed by college educated white males.
 

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Told ya all that Trump is a magician. Finally a high quality Alaska poll. Looks very much in play but trump will likely win as Biden has done nothing there and Jorgensen will siphon votes.

As an aside Trump is getting absolutely killed by college educated white males.
Don't see the Dems taking Alaska at all TBH, seem to be pouring a shit tonne of resources into the east coast swing states
 

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Alaska is not in play for the EC, Trump is still +6 from an A+ pollster 3 days ago.

The whole election will come down to whether Trump is successful in throwing out enough ballots when the inevitable lawsuits start.
 

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how can anyone take this idiot or his campaign seriously?! beats me
Quite easily when the other option is probably the most annoying prick to grace public office in a generation
Alaska is not in play for the EC, Trump is still +6 from an A+ pollster 3 days ago.

The whole election will come down to whether Trump is successful in throwing out enough ballots when the inevitable lawsuits start.
Thats mental.
The USA is meant to be the land of the free and all that bollox but to think Trump has planted such seeds of discontent is impossible.

Was the ballots done by post also when he was elected?
 

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Quite easily when the other option is probably the most annoying prick to grace public office in a generation


Thats mental.
The USA is meant to be the land of the free and all that bollox but to think Trump has planted such seeds of discontent is impossible.

Was the ballots done by post also when he was elected?
Yes. Some states have been doing it for decades.
 

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Quite easily when the other option is probably the most annoying prick to grace public office in a generation


Thats mental.
The USA is meant to be the land of the free and all that bollox but to think Trump has planted such seeds of discontent is impossible.

Was the ballots done by post also when he was elected?
mail in votes have always been a thing. The problem for an authoritarian like trump is once you're told you are going to lose "bigly" and more people than ever will vote by mail, he does not care about free and fair elections, he will just call it fraudulent and seek lawsuits in each battleground state. Doesn't mean he'll win those suits but the whole goal of the Trump campaign is to get ballots thrown out.

Remember, trump has already said......multiple times, any vote that does not reelect him is fraudulent on the basis of him not winning. This shit is about to get ugly.
 

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mail in votes have always been a thing. The problem for an authoritarian like trump is once you're told you are going to lose "bigly" and more people than ever will vote by mail, he does not care about free and fair elections, he will just call it fraudulent and seek lawsuits in each battleground state. Doesn't mean he'll win those suits but the whole goal of the Trump campaign is to get ballots thrown out.

Remember, trump has already said......multiple times, any vote that does not reelect him is fraudulent on the basis of him not winning. This shit is about to get ugly.
feck me.
So if he wins it's all fine. If he doesnt it's all a fraud.

How the feck can he have it both ways?

It's the death of democracy.
 

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Alaska is not in play for the EC, Trump is still +6 from an A+ pollster 3 days ago.

The whole election will come down to whether Trump is successful in throwing out enough ballots when the inevitable lawsuits start.
That makes it more in play (+6 with a 5.7 margin of error) than say Michigan (+8 Siena), Pennsylvania (+9 Monmouth), and Wisconsin (+10 Siena) by the high quality pollsters.

Nobody would claim that the above states aren't in play.

It obviously won't matter for the EC, but if you feel the fact that Biden is polling so well in the north is insignificant, you're wrong.

The last part is sadly likely true.
 

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feck me.
So if he wins it's all fine. If he doesnt it's all a fraud.

How the feck can he have it both ways?

It's the death of democracy.
He ranted in 2016 with conspiracy theories about in person voting too. He's just not all there, and trying to lever public opinion in his base to preface any conservative court value as legitimate. It won't work. (though it does raise questions about the transfer of power and dictators in the US etc)
 

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He's an asshole contrarian who hates what he thinks of as the mainstream, which to him is the liberals he interacts with on twitter. So his politics is IMO stupid. (For example he can't see police violence as a part of mainstream America that millions of people appreciate, he will say the mainstream are the #defund people whom he gets into fights with).

But he's been very consistent on this - free speech and journalistic freedom - since Bush, and warned about tech overreach and censorship as the natural outcome of Russiagate right at the start (2016).






May 2019, NYT:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/us/politics/biden-son-ukraine.html

You can read the story, it reeks. If this was a Trump son the conclusions would be obvious.
I'm not aware if anyone has disputed the truth in the emails the NY post published. I remember that after Clinton wikileaks, the common refrain here was that the emails themselves were wrong, but that defence was clumsily exposed by Hillary herself during a debate with Trump, when she defended what she had written in the emails.
I find NY Post's origin story about a forgotten hard disk and a call to Rudy very hard to believe. Probably a hack, again. But unless there is concrete proof the emails are faked I won't believe it. And in that case, whatever Glenn says is true - the Pentagon papers were stolen and leaked, Conitelpro was revealed because of a robbery of FBI headquarters, etc etc.

Not exactly related, but the head of FB India has said many times how much she loves our prime minister and what he does. Her platform has oceans of pro-Modi propaganda. I have zero faith in that company to be an kind of neutral arbiter of anything. If twitter and fb continue this kind of censorship, I think the free speech extremists like Glenn or our @crappycraperson will be proven right. They do no deserve this power.

edit - following the Corbyn antisemitism story and how it spread has made me super cynical and skeptical about everything. this is one part of that.
Dragged me randomly into this :lol: Twitter already reversed this absurd decision BTW. Also Greenwald lost the plot a bit during Obama's presidency. His reporting on Obama continuing the war and dropping the ball with respect to Wall Street post 2008 was good but he developed a contrarian streak of going against the liberals who turned a blind eye to any negative press about Obama. With regard to Facebook & Twitter, it is a lost battle. Internet companies like Google have also showed that they are happy to aid totalitarian regimes like China if it means they can make billions. No surprise, these companies are leaning left right now given the public mood in States. Ultimately responsibility of these companies is to their investors and shareholders, expecting them to upload abstract principles of freedom of speech is pointless.
 

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It's weird how people in KY keep voting for him, he does absolutely nothing for them, they have a huge unemployment rate one of the highest in the country and that was pre-covid.
"I'd rather go unemployed and live on unemployment benefits than vote for radical socialist"
 

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Don't worry trumps gonna get 105% of the votes when they count all his mail in ballots arrive from Russia... im convinced this is why he's been saying mail in ballots are subject to fraud so the has pretty much all the Democrats on record saying that mail in ballots are safe to make it harder to challenge him
 

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Don't worry trumps gonna get 105% of the votes when they count all his mail in ballots arrive from Russia... im convinced this is why he's been saying mail in ballots are subject to fraud so the has pretty much all the Democrats on record saying that mail in ballots are safe to make it harder to challenge him
I think you are giving him waaaaaaaaay to much credit. It comes down to the same 3 step process that governs everything he does:

1. Become indignant to some perceived slight (in this case blame for COVID) that is based on his actual actions.
2. Lash out at the consequences of said action (in this case people wanting to vote by mail to protect themselves from the pandemic Trump has downplayed).
3. Refuse under every circumstance to ever go back on his initial, impulsive, actions/words.
 

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Don't worry trumps gonna get 105% of the votes when they count all his mail in ballots arrive from Russia... im convinced this is why he's been saying mail in ballots are subject to fraud so the has pretty much all the Democrats on record saying that mail in ballots are safe to make it harder to challenge him
Hahahahahahahahahahaa
 
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