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fecking heartbreaking. Reports coming out are sketchy at the moment and have changed twice since I first read this. Truly sickening.
6 dead including 5 children, in Oklahoma shooting
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fecking heartbreaking. Reports coming out are sketchy at the moment and have changed twice since I first read this. Truly sickening.
Murder-suicide?
It’s only a matter of time until we start hearing more & more of these on a routine basis.
It’s only a matter of time until we start hearing more & more of these on a routine basis.
Just awful
First one of the year?
Horrible
A woman survived so she will be able to shed some light on the events.
The article suggests some odd love triangle or maybe a family disagreement. The main shooter is in custody but is not cooperating.
Whatever, 5 poor children yet again caught up in someone else's bullshit.
Standard “More guns” will sort it comment.
‘If only the woman was armed...’ is the phrase many necks will be beginning with today.
How could anyone shoot a kid, truly sickening.
Probably just crisis actors.
What do you mean by that?
A cynical swipe at how some influential ‘pundits’ on the right classified those who were involved in the Sandy Hook & Parkland massacres.
He's doing a pretty good Marjorie Taylor Green impression.
Thought you were on about Sandy Hook just wasn’t sure, poor kids anyhow.
I'm desensitised.
If this happened in the UK I'd be horrified but in the US its inevitable and that's horrible to say.
A lot of people have blood on their hands
If this happened in the UK I'd be horrified but in the US its inevitable and that's horrible to say.
A lot of people have blood on their hands
Five young children and their dad it seems, what a terrible tragedy - the poor mum will have to bear that grief. The suspect has been named in the press. He was a young man in his 20s who was living with the family.
When is the time, though? I’m completely desensitized to it as well. Nothing’s going to move the needle on this regardless if the normal platitudes are delivered or not.
You shouldn't be desensitised to little children being massacred, no matter how often it happens. This isn't a mass shooting of random strangers, in any case.
I agree with you Penna it actually makes me quite sad reading this..
Not now.
And "being desensitised" is not an excuse. You should still and very least have empathy.
It’s not as though I don’t have empathy for those involved. This is a legitimate tragedy. I’ve just seen how this will play out politically too many times in my country. The fact that abhorrent behavior like this isn’t adequately dealt with each time is unconscionable.
This will unfortunately be just another disappointing statistic at the end of the day.
And just shrugging your shoulders is going to do what?
Sorry mate, I'm not trying to dig at you here I get the feeling of powerlessness. But I also hate people saying they are "desensitised" as if that's some excuse for being able to read the news and then just moving on. It's as if the recent fecking mess you lot haven't just found yourself in couldn't be more of an indicator that people can rise up and change the course of your country...
Sick beyond words. What a human is capable of is beyond the ability to mentally understand.
I used to live a couple blocks away. It’s always weird when you can feel a more direct connection to it.
In many cases, change is something that can come when needed. Unfortunately, this isn’t one of them & hasn’t been for decades. Who knows, the death knell of the NRA might help to break up this lunacy, but when a right prescribed by a piece of paper is routinely discussed as ‘god given’ & is one of the main thrusts of the delusion on the right, we are probably going to see more instances of mass death of children before we don’t.
We’ve had an amazingly barren streak of school shootings, etc. recently, thanks in some part to Covid. But the fetishistic adoring of guns in this country, especially in the uneducated, religious, rural parts, means that uprising against such by sane thinking citizens just isn’t going to do anything. The politicians that represent these mental deficients are just as culpable for instances like this as the trigger pullers are. They allow for this insanity to maintain itself.
We couldn’t get shit accomplished in 2014. We couldn’t get shit accomplished in 2018. This unfortunately won’t accomplish anything. The right will just become further entrenched & emboldened.
Wonder how many ‘thoughts & prayers’ platitudes have already come from the MTGs of the American political landscape?
This is gonna be blamed on lockdowns is my guess. The thing that is for sure is guns will be blameless.
Awful
Shit got accomplished last election though. People can rise.
We both know the answer to that. Too many.
These things are always bad. Even worse when it’s kids. feck guns. There’s just no need for them in society.
Absolutely horrible. How much coverage will this get in the States though? I thought Sandy Hook would be the big wake up moment but sadly here we are again talking about kids being murdered. I know there's a world of difference but after the shock of Dunblane we had folk lining up to hand in their firearms. It just feels weird that this seems like an alternate reality.
Yes, there was some success had politically recently, but when incidents like Sandy Hook & Parkland don’t galvanize the entire political spectrum into doing something effectively to limit or eliminate these atrocities, it’s difficult to envision what will do so.
Sandy Hook & Parkland were just tips of the icebergs. Go back thirty years & there are dozens of mass casualty events involving adolescents. This isn’t a recent phenomena by any stretch nor can it be blamed solely on the current political tenor of the right. Pearl, Columbine, Aurora, etc., these tragedies have spanned decades with disturbing frequency & failing response.
fecking hell
This won’t move the public needle one iota, unfortunately.
We may see a few days’ coverage, but that will be all.
Watching the national news right now (ABC World News Tonight) are 2/3 done and have not even mentioned it. Coverage of the 2 FBI agents being killed serving a warrant to a child predator but nothing so far on the Oklahoma shooting. They covered the space x launch issue, Covid problems with the KC Chiefs football team but not a shooting of an entire family.
It happened overnight, so a lot of the ‘Breaking News’ aspect was lost due to timing (no clue if it even registered as breaking news last night). But I have not seen anything on MSNBC or CNN since the thread was started (which alerted me to the tragedy). Speaks volumes.
Yeah, I didn't know about it until this thread as well. It's lost on the CNN website as well (it's on the front page but there are 20 news items above it). Just pathetic how normal this is.
Not quite but this one was reached the threshold for being national news worthy I guess.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
Family shootings are very common if you glance through that site.