More chance that he leaves with them. A la Mourinho, Deco, Carvalho.
A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino
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That's because it's relevant. Those imagining that Levy is going to sanction the departure of Kane just before the new stadium's grand opening are living in cloud cuckoo land.I was waiting for the new stadium line. Well done.
Every player has a price, and there’s no way you can tell us that if Barca, Real or even United made him a life changing offer that he wouldn’t consider it.
I think you’re absolutely wrong to assume it would be Levy who could ignore the phone call. If Kane ever wanted to go, he would. Because clubs can’t keep players under those circumstances anymore, least of all if they potentially have Kane’s value.
I'm sure this summer will be hectic and the two clubs will speak (if they are not already doing so). Kane and Pochettino would be too much for Levy,I'm not going to lie I have no doubt he would be incredibly intrested in Madrid, due to his Spanish background and the fact he would never coach Barca. I don't think however he is the kind of guy who would leave us at the drop of a hat, I would hope not this summer anyway. Also as you say joining Madrid without winning anything first would be a massive risk, as a manager he has plenty of time left in his career.
Having said that I really wouldn't want a test from Madrid, it hasn't ended well before
so we better forget about the coach and we give him 200 for Kane
Why black and white? He hasn't won anything as a coach and doesn't look like winning anytime soon, hope you let him go as soon as and if Real comes knocking.
I'd say Pogba and De Gea are the only ones we could consider world class in our squad.
Edit: Add Mourinho to world class.
If Zidane gets the sack as it's predicted, Poch seems to be the only good available option for Madrid to get. Whatever the manager they're getting, if they don't renew their attack and bring at least 2 world class attackers this summer, I can't see anyone succeeding with them.
He's not perfect but he's obviously done a very good job with Spurs - their resources are far outmatched by the teams around them and yet they've been able to consistently remain in and around the CL spots in recent years. Quite how good he is remains to be seen but even if they finish 5th this season I'd say 3rd/2nd/5th would be a very respectable combo for a manager with a team who by all rights should be finishing around 6th every season.
I think if Poch had taken a leaf out of Fergie’s playbook last summer and added two players just to freshen things up in his squad they’d be doing far better this season. It’s gone stale at Spurs.
You have to look at the clubs he has managed and where those clubs are in the grand scheme of their legs. You can't just judge a manager "as is". Only with us could he arguably be expect to have wind something by now but the thing is with us, the league comes first, we simply can't afford to drop out of the top 4.
Right I rate pogba and he certainly has the potential to be world class but he isn't consistent enough, wheather that be Jose hasn't quite got his squad the way he wants it or Pogba himself hasn't peaked yet who knows. Again I rate him massively but he isn't there yet.
He's worked miracles at Spurs. He'll be up three with the Klopps and Guardiola's of the world when he moves to a bigger club
If, if, if ...
The reality is that Kane doesn't want to leave and will be very keen to walk out for Spurs into our new stadium. And even if - for argument's sake - he did want to leave this summer, Levy would refuse point blank because he simply wouldn't let such an event occur and thereby overshadow the new stadium's opening ... for all sorts of commercial sponsorship and fan morale reasons.
Opposition fans can try conjuring up all kinds of imagined scenarios, but there is more chance of Messi signing for Accrington Stanley than there is for Kane being sold this summer.
Stale? We are 5th in an incredably strong league, 3 points behind 3rd, and advancing in Europe. I don't see that as stale.
When, when, when.
Not this summer, maybe, but at some point he’ll consider it. I personally wouldn’t totally rule out this summer - football’s too unpredictable. If Poch and a few others go, anything could happen...
And if they stay and we win the FA cup, we can all make up a wicker an argument.
Why leave out the likes of Sissoko? Because he doesn't fit your argument I'd imagine
So Pogba is world class and Alderweireld (for example) isn't? Do me a favour.
TBF Glaston was highlighting successes, Sissoko has been meh and for the fee a flop. I don't think any Spurs fan would agree with that. I'm hoping a big bid comes in from China TBH lol.
Include him if you like, it doesn't really change the overall picture. I was against his signing at the time - and he's not been great - but in recent weeks he's slowly becoming a decent squad player.
Grand opening - wow, you are really in love with this (not so incredibly big) stadium. What's even funnier is that you are in fact playing at a much bigger and shinier stadium right now. Say what you want about the magnificent Levy and his control over Kane, but time and time again the biggest clubs come in for the best players and they get them. Kane has reached that level where you cannot see another outcome than leaving for Real Madrid in the end, it's just inevitable. And sorry to say, in the end Mr. Levy doesn't have a word in this game - when the player sets the wheels in motion there is only one outcome. Agents, media, faked injuries - you know the drill, they always give up in the end. Coutinho left for Barcelona, even though Liverpool said they would never entertain a bid for him. Why would Tottenham be any different? This is what you do not comprehend; Tottenham aren't any different to other, lesser clubs. You are not special, there is nothing unique about playing for Tottenham compared to other clubs - you have absolutely no recent history. Spurs like everyone else, would not hold onto an unhappy star player flirting with proper trophy-winning clubs from Europe. Antoine Griezmann just moved into a new and shiny stadium, you can bet your ass he is trading up next summer - he almost moved last season before they moved into the new one.
I am not saying he is necessarily leaving this summer, but the huge problem for Tottenham is that a) Real Madrid are the biggest club in the world, b) their star playing is soon 33 and c) Kane is at the perfect age and is the best around from his generation currently playing at a smaller club. This isn't a dig at Spurs as a club (rather delusional fans), you have just hit the big-time in securing Kane and will pocket a lot of money for him. Spurs have won one measly League Cup in the last 20 years and that just isn't going to suffice for him when he can win several Champions League-trophies the next 7-8 years playing for a bigger and better club. Tick tock....
I do like, I also like to add the likes of Janssen as well
Poch won't be leaving this summer either. And you could apply 'if' to any club in the world, including United.
Yeah but you have to win something, anything. The league cup at least. Ranieri took a Leicester side and kicked the whole "toughest" league ass, simple as. That's a good coach, Poch is decent at best IMHO sorry.
Well he sure ain't Roy but i think he can be considered world class, but i understand why you could think he's not.
Nope sorry, not even close. He's a good player in a decent squad, and that's all. Wouldn't have him over any of our defenders.
Fine. But again it doesn't change the fact that Pochettino has assembled a top 4 team - competing against several money-bags clubs - for absolute peanuts.
Il agree with most of what you say but come on, moving from WHL to a new stadium is a big deal for the club, you can't get round it. Financially and status wise, it allows us to massively increase our income commercially and on match day. 61000 capicity Will be the second biggest in the league, come on.
Lol ... Alderweireld is widely considered to be one of the best CBs in Europe ... and perhaps the best in the Prem.
I 100% agree we need to win something no doubt and unless we do either this season or next we will be in difficulties, no problem saying it as I've said it before.
No wonder you guys consider Poch world class too.
See I don't consider him WC, he can't be until he brings the goodies but on the other hand how can he be then linked to arguably the biggest Club team in the world?
People talk about Klopp being this great coach and that he's running out of time and he has to win something or else it's over for him at Pool. And somehow nobody talks about Pochs need to win, they just talk about how he's building something from "nothing", playing sexy football along the road to nowhere.
Yeah and on the other hand Real also hired Rafa Benitez. Go figure that one out.
I'm talking about this summer ... not what may or may not happen in years to come. And this summer it's simply delusional to imagine that Kane might be sold.
PS. Wembley might be bigger, but it's definitely not 'shinier' and it's not our real home stadium. Our new stadium when finished will be the best in the Prem.
Touche
What happened to Kyle Walker? Danny Rose wants out. Aldeweireld isn’t signing a new contract.Yawn ... all this wishful thinking is quite boring really.
Half the posts about Spurs from opposition fans bang on endlessly - year after year - about the alleged imminent departure of our star players. And when it doesn't happen they carry on anyway.
It’s not wishful thinking. Unless you start paying big bucks these players will leave. Do you think they want to continue at Spurs with a low wage and win nothing as well?
I'm sorry, but if you rate Alderweireld as simply 'a good player in decent squad', then either you've hardly seem him play or your footballing judgement isn't worth a bucket of spit.
Kyle Walker wasn't one of our star players, and nor is Rose for that matter (who last I heard was still playing for Spurs).
You know don't know that Alderweireld won't sign a new contract ... it's just hopeful projection on your part.
PS. de Gea wanted out from United, just like Ronaldo, but some United fans like to pretend that these things never happen to them.
De Gea left? Pretty sure he is still here.
Alderwireld ain’t signing according to the times, so it’s not my projection. He clearly seen the money Walker is on and plus the bonus that Walker is going to win trophies.
You haven’t won anything for a decade. If you think these players are going to accept a low wage compared to what they can get from another club and not win anything then you are deluded.
de Gea wanted to leave, that's the point.
First it's "Aldeweireld isn’t signing a new contract" and then it becomes he "ain’t signing according to the times" ...
You seem to permanently talk in hyperbole.
Just state that you think he'll stay. Instead of writing absolute nonsensical sh1te.
Did you say "hyperbole"?
Alderwireld is a class player. Always hoped we'd sign him actually. No surprise that Poch took him from Saints, and let Pool take all the rest.
After the Danny Rose interview last year, seems obvious that Levy has a big challenge to keep key players while waiting for bumper revenues from new stadium etc.
Wouldn't surprise me if he pulled it off for the most part, however Alderwireld looks certain to leave IMO. 60k per week is a joke for him, and he'd make way more elsewhere, not to mention increased trophy prospects.
Would welcome him with open arms at United.
After the Danny Rose interview last year, seems obvious that Levy has a big challenge to keep key players while waiting for bumper revenues from new stadium etc.
Wouldn't surprise me if he pulled it off for the most part, however Alderwireld looks certain to leave IMO. 60k per week is a joke for him, and he'd make way more elsewhere, not to mention increased trophy prospects.
Would welcome him with open arms at United.
Can see Poch going and taking Kane with him to Madrid in summer.