I was about to say, he looked like he’d sussed it in European games; the Madrid home game was bright. But then in the City game he fecked it massively. If he applies the same caution and tailored tactical approach to domestic games, he can succeed. But he has to actually do it.
A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino
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Does he have the best players in the league though, also these players are developing into great players at different times. Mind you, he's also liable to lose players(i.e Walker) due to the financial difference between them and their competition. He's not in the position those coaches were when they finally got the sort of jobs that come with the trophy expectation. Whether you know or don't. spurs are currently in their best spell ever since the prem started.
When you are Spurs you have to be content with it as long as the club is making progress. They've broken their club points totals in recent years under his reign. Acting like he's managing United, City or Chelsea doesn't make sense. He can't see what his club needs and then hit the market and purchase it overnight while keeping the rest of the side.
I'm not sure how anyone can suss the tactical proficiency of any manager from one off games. If that's the case, how would you evaluate Mourinho's performance in such games this season? Compare them to Klopp, Guardiola and Pochettino.
Can't wait to see the first Pep bus.
Very well put.
I'm not sure if you are aware, but Madrid and Dortmund are a shambles this season. Madrid have lost to the mighty Real Betis and Girona. Dortmund have lost to Werder Bremen and Stuttgart...
Strange that when Spurs win it's 'Pochettino is a good manager', when they lose its 'well he's doing it on a budget'. Whatever fits the narrative.
Yeah and I don't get all the focus some clubs have on not getting relegated either, I mean - if it's not winning it's just meaningless right?
What has that got to do with how we beat them? I swear some people on here are just so glad to slag off it's unreal lol. Where did I say he's so great for
beating them? So narrow minded it's unreal, I'm well aware how they are performing so ur patronising wit falls quite short.
You treated it as some sort of significant milestone for Poch; which it isnt. Pochettino beat Madrid so he must be showing his tactical worth...nope, any team can beat any other team in a one-off game, especially when one team is having a bad season.
I think Pochettino is a good manager; so I'm not being narrow minded. But I am of the opinion that Poch either needs to win trophies with Spurs or move to a club with higher ambitions so he can be put to the test. I don't work with the assumption that Poch would win everything under the sun with money; because its a foolish assumption. Many managers work better in low pressure environments and cannot handle clubs like Madrid where you have 3 years to win everything.
I think if Poch gets the nod for the Madrid job; then he will go. I would be interested to see how he would perform with them.
No mate I didn't, show me where I even said it was a massive victory, I simply said he changed his tactics.
If you really think all the players you listed are as good or better than Kane, then either a) you haven't seen him or any of those other players play in ages or b) your football knowledge is seriously lacking.
lol. That is literally an ad hominem attack, but go on...
Wait, what? So a manager of a big club is not trying to prove himself at that said big club? One of the most nonsensical things I've heard in a while. Every single one of those managers expected to fight for the title. For you to hold it against Poch for losing out to Leicester, but not the other managers is pure lunacy.
Tactics, players, injuries, etc. Take your pick, but again you are missing the point. There is no top 6 trophy. Isolating results against the top 6 is a pointless exercise. Like I said before, given that he is in charge of the 6th richest club is it that illogical that Spurs have the worst record of the top 6?
There is nothing to understand in your posts. You speaking a bunch of gibberish, moving goalposts and arguing in circles. My statements are more a critique of your outlandish supporting arguments of him being a overrated manager. I'm not a Spurs, Poch, or Kane fan but I'll call out absurd statements when I see them.
I'll reiterate, but you can just reread the above
1) You cannot just isolate record vs top 6. Top 6 matches constitute no more than ~25% (cup and European matches) of the total matches in a season.
2) Of all the top 6 teams, Spurs have the least amount of resources. Not crazy that they have the worst record
3) All top 6 teams lost out to Leicester City. Be consistent in your criticism.
That's all.
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The way Spurs fans defend Poch, one would think they are content with not winning anything.
Of course we want to win things, but we're competing against 5 other teams with bigger reasources, our main aim right now is to stay at the top section of the league. I really don't know why this is so hard to get.
Or perhaps one would think that a set of fans who support a club that has won 2 league cups in the last 20 years and has the 6th biggest resources in the league (closer to the likes of Everton or Villa than we are to the 4 richest clubs especially), wouldn't feel entitled to trophies and would appreciate the job he has done so far, even if we obviously would all like to win trophies.
And they would perhaps also note that it is only Man Utd fans who seem to have this weird, patronising attitude to trophies (or perhaps the dominant club in each league does) and that a manager and team can still be doing a good job, even if they haven't won a trophy?
I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to get at. Do you think we should fire him and hire someone who will apparently guarantee us trophies?
But, but...Your team is good enough to win something. So not expecting that they do so does appear (for an outsider) as lacking ambition.
It's always the same story from some opposition fans on here. When Spurs finished 2nd or 3rd it was apparently only because the other clubs had "under-performed". And when we top our CL group, it's only because RM and Dortmund are a shambles this season.
In other words, there are always apparently special circumstances to explain it all away ... and it's always nothing much to do with Spurs themselves.
No, I just think you should be expecting more now that you are where you are. Not doing so will be stagnation.
If that's how u feel ur welcome to that thought lol.
That's what I meant by milestone; as if Poch has turned a corner by beating Real Madrid. That game was not tactical brilliance from Pochettino. Trippier was offside for the first goal; there was a massive deflection for the second goal. Real Madrid had to push for a goal after that which meant you caught them out at the back. Not to mention Madrid had their fair share of chances.
Spurs had an xG of 2.2
Madrid had an xG of 2.0
That game could have reasonably been a draw or a win for Madrid because they created many good chances. But Spurs were very clinical and Madrid were not.
My god we're going to what ifs now? All I said was Poch changed his style for 2 games in response to another poster? Look if you don't rate Poch that's tour opinion, and your quite welcome to it, I do rate him. No he is not world class at this moment in time but there is no other attainable manager I would trade him for.
I dont think people are arguing that he is doing a bad job at Spurs. Clearly he is doing well on a net spend around 20mil vs say Cashiola and his net spend of what, 400mil?
More that is his managerial nous good enough for one of the biggest clubs on the planet in RM considering he has never won anything and would his style fit RM, a team full of prima donna superstars? He seems very 'my way or the highway' in his approach which is not going to fly at a club like RM. But seems perfect for bringing through young talent from the academy as you have young, eager, kids buying into his footballing philosophy.
Poch better than Jardim?
You are correct I don't think Poch is ready for a job like Madrid. If he can't win anything with this Spurs side, and leaves for Madrid I'd be gob smacked that they've offered him the job. I wouldn't trade Poch for any other manager, but at the same time, I don't think he'd be first pick for the Madrid job. I also think it doesn't suit his philosophy, to take a job like Madrid. Maybe in 5 years when he has more experience and some silverware, but really, he needs to win a league title with Spurs. City's dominance won't go on for ever, as we've seen in the past, teams lose hunger, decline etc. I do believe Spurs have the capability to win the league in the next few seasons but it will be incredibly tough.
If Madrid make a move, I can't see him rejecting it.
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Wonder if they will go in for Kane as well, they would have to throw some serious money around for Levy to give the nod. Like quarter of a billion kind of money for Levy to let Kane and Pochettino go to RM, BBC saying it's on now, but probably the usual click bait.
If Real makes it clear to him that they're keen on him then he's off imo, I guess he would love to manage Spurs further but at the back of his mind he probably is unable to shake off the thought that Spurs aren't giving him the hefty backing in the transfer market he needs on top of best players leaving disillusioned year-on-year basis. He realizes that his stock is at its highest right now and short-to-medium term it will only going one direction, which is down due to being put at a massive disadvantage when compared to rivals. He knows it may be once in a lifetime opportunity, so my bet is on him leaving this summer given Real is seriously considering him.
If Real come in, he's gone.
Arry to replace him.
Arry to replace him.
Yeah if he wants to be backed in the transfer market he's probably better off staying at spurs
If Pochettino does end up at Real Madrid, this will improve their chances of getting Kane by all accounts. Can't see Levy losing the manager without a fight, as he seems to be the reason for most of the team staying there.
Can blame the defence all we want but Matic, Jones and Smalling are the 3 man pivot at the back and each has a Spurs player on them at all times. To make a pass they have to move away from their position by about 10 yards and it’s totally destabilised us. Our threat remains on a direct ball over Spurs’ midfield but it’s hopeful rather than controlled attacking. Pochettino is the one bossing this game so far.
Finally doing the job in a big game away from home. Spurs have been ace so far at Anfield.
Two changes that made an instant impact. Brilliant tactical awareness by Pochettino.
Definitely; he had Wanyama to score a goal of the season in his tactical brief ; and knew that Lamela's good looks were too much for VVD who coudlnt resist getting a piece of him.
I'd still love to have him as our manager going forward
When was the last time Wanyama scored a goal from open play? Poch had crystal ball.
Ah me too. They're looking nailed on for a Europa League spot and who would turn down that opportunity?
Yup, because thats exactly how it works!
Points win prizes, that's how it works. And right now Spurs are 7 behind us. What a miracle worker.