Wan-Bissaka is a top drawer right back, it would be very difficult to get a better one as there are only about 5 who could be considered an upgrade and they are already at top clubs.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
After watching Wan-Bissaka with United for 3 years I am fairly certain Talent pool can't be that shallow that only 5 Players can considered upgrade on him in Right Back position .
He is serviceable Player but nothing more and have way too many deficiencies to ever become truly elite .
Wan-Bissaka wasn't the same player in the second half of last season as he was in the previous 3.
All top right backs have deficiencies.
He appears to have gone up level in pre-season so far as well.
If the talent pool isn't that shallow then you should have no problem naming 5 RBs that would be an upgrade.
Personally still pretty worried about him in terms of our ability to attack across both sides. Capable teams will sheppard the ball out to him, knowing he's very unlikely to do any damage - as Madrid did very successfully. Now that we have an actual centre forward, only have one full back who is capable of crossing the ball is pretty poor, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Dalot nip in pretty quickly as the season progresses.
AWB is okay at running with the ball and short passing, but has he ever completed a decent cross in his 3 years here? Look at our peers' full backs - all of them have a good delivery in them.
AWB is okay at running with the ball and short passing, but has he ever completed a decent cross in his 3 years here? Look at our peers' full backs - all of them have a good delivery in them.
Will he be a RWB or maybe in a more central role. Will be interesting to see.
Honestly I don't watch much football outside of United so no I won't be in a position to give name of 5 players better than Wan-Bissaka as you have requested , but considering Wan-Bissaka as top 5 Right back in the world is some next level over rating .
So you have no clue
Outside of James, Pavard and Hakimi it's really difficult to name RBs that are clearly better than him.
Walker, Trent, White are all better for example. Not that I dislike AWB, but he is a good level below the best ones.So you have no clue
Outside of James, Pavard and Hakimi it's really difficult to name RBs that are clearly better than him.
No I don't but I have Watched enough football over the years to confidently say If the the Current version of Wan-Bissaka is within top 5 player in his position then talent pool is definitely sparse .So you have no clue
Outside of James, Pavard and Hakimi it's really difficult to name RBs that are clearly better than him.
Trent isn’t a RB anymore.
Pavard is looking for a club that doesn’t play him at RB & doesn’t Mazroui play there?
I don’t see how white is better than Wan Bissaka? Especially when AWB has had 3 good seasons for us to white’s 1, (achieved 2nd and more cups if we are looking at club success).
Right now people are rating Wan Bissaka on United’s level of success and as soon as United’s level of success has improved then people create a distance between AWB & United by saying that he is holding the team back.
James, Walker, Hakimi, Mazroui & Frimpong are the only RB’s that are above AWB, everybody else are CB’s playing at RB’s - that’s why fullbacks looks sparse as there has been more of a wave of Centre back fullbacks like Timber, white, Ake, Akanji or even Stones.
I wouldn’t take White over AWB and Trent would be crucified at United with the amount of defensive mistakes
His cross last season was beautiful and most of our ‘peer’s don’t use fullbacks anymore - they use wide playing CB’s who are hardly seen on the opposite side of the pitch providing crosses.
None of City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea or Newcastle would swap their current first choice RB options for AWB.
For a top team Trent is quite obviously better than AWB on the whole.
I’m so ready for the crash back down to earth of Arsenal, it’ll be epic.
This is so hypothetical. He was absolute ballbag for much of last season.
I mean, Trent has been instrumental for a top team winning stuff. What's the likelihood of AWB being central to us winning the CL and PL?
And AWB has largely been ballbag since we signed him for 50m 4 years ago - he definitely hasn't hit anywhere near the same heights Trent has over the past few years.
Dalot is overrated. He was supposedly having his best season for us and still got displaced by AWB and could never get back the starting spot.
He dribbles and shoots better, but AWB beats him in everything else based on their showing last season.
Oh very possible.
He has shut down world class/top level LW’s like Mbappe, Neymar, Mitoma, Saint Maxmim, Vinicius, Sterling, Son, Martinelli, Zaha and plenty more.
Very useful.
Also he hasn’t been ball bag during his time here - that’s just thoughts of someone you don’t rate.
He was good but not great under Ole during his first 2 seasons - especially with Greenwood in front. Achieved 2nd, ultimately all that Arsenal ever reached. Also won cups with him that the new breed of Arsenal have yet to have. Then he had a bad season during the season most of the squad was shit.
Now he has improved from a good player to a great useful player (but not a perfect player) under his first 6 months of Ten Hag.
Dalot is a next level of shit compared to AWB and dribbles a little tiny bit better so people think of him as the type of attacking fullback we should build our team over.
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He got injured and then struggled to regain fitness because we couldn't afford any risks. Dalot is far the superior player.
Funny how people don’t allow this for Rashford.
Dalot has had plenty of time now to regain fitness and still hasn’t shown anything.
He hasn’t had a single full season in comparison to AWB’s season under Ole or even 6 months in comparison to AWB’s 2nd half season under Ten Hag.
AWB is the far superior player & is ultimately still being shown today - way past enough time to regain fitness.
Who doesn't allow what for Rashford?
As for Dalot vs. AWB, it is obvious from space who is the better player and better tactical fit for Ten Hag.
Source:
Diogo Dalot Scouting Report for Last 365 Days Men's Big 5 Leagues, UCL, UEL | FBref.com
Aaron Wan-Bissaka Scouting Report for Last 365 Days Men's Big 5 Leagues, UCL, UEL | FBref.com
What a ridiculous thing to say.
And again, I don’t care for these stats because ultimately it doesnt show that Dalot gets defensively beaten way to easily every time he has played for in the last 8 months.Who doesn't allow what for Rashford?
As for Dalot vs. AWB, it is obvious from space who is the better player and better tactical fit for Ten Hag.
Source:
Diogo Dalot Scouting Report for Last 365 Days Men's Big 5 Leagues, UCL, UEL | FBref.com
Aaron Wan-Bissaka Scouting Report for Last 365 Days Men's Big 5 Leagues, UCL, UEL | FBref.com
All those stats show is that AWB is the better defensive fullback whilst Dalot is the more all rounded one due to him having better dribbling statistics.
Compare stats of Dalot & AWB - Dalot is simply more all rounded so has better dribbling stats.
Let’s see if Dalot drops Wan Bissaka on to the bench. He hasn’t for 8 months and now has had a 2 month break - so shouldn’t have fitness issues.
If folks can't see how limited our play is with AWB then it's on them because it's quite obvious. He's actually improved defensively since his return to the starting line up(albeit positionally he's still suspect. Was the one who played Bellingham onside, sort of things he has to clean up) but his overall contribution is still mediocre. Due to his poor ball playing ability we're still forced to overly rely to build from the middle and the left.
AWB makes his RW job difficult. Watching Shaw play on the left side, it's night and day how he helps to facilitate build up into that left channel and in midfield. AWB still needs to turn his body completely to make a pass to an intended target for Pete sakes. If Dalot is still a headcase defensively Ten Hag will be looking to get a RB in the next window. AWB isn't surviving in a Ten Hag's team, he'll be replaced as soon as the chance presents itself.
AWB makes his RW job difficult. Watching Shaw play on the left side, it's night and day how he helps to facilitate build up into that left channel and in midfield. AWB still needs to turn his body completely to make a pass to an intended target for Pete sakes. If Dalot is still a headcase defensively Ten Hag will be looking to get a RB in the next window. AWB isn't surviving in a Ten Hag's team, he'll be replaced as soon as the chance presents itself.
It is indeed obvious although I would also say its limited with Shaw too to a lesser extent
Well the chance did present it self & nothing really happened. We could have kept Fred for a year, got Mount on a free & look at upgrading to a new RB this window.
Wan Bissaka is not going anywhere.
Dalot is the better attacking fullback & Wan Bissaka is the better defensive fullback.
If Dalot doesn’t improve overall then that means we need a better attacking fullback to take over him.
Wan Bissaka can be a specialist player, a 2nd RB for us when we need a player to me marked out of a game at LW.
Bellingham was offside with his furthest ankle in line with Wan Bissaka - that is offside due to a certain ruling & possibly onside due to a different ruling that no one knows is being used yet.
AWB has shut Grealish, Martinelli, Son, Neymar, Mbappe, Vinicius, Sterling, Zaha, Mitoma, Saint Maximin And more.
Why is that not useful to people?
Also, Wan Bissaka and Greenwood were attacking in sync to a great standard under Ole.
Have you ever considered that Antony going 100% in one way makes Wan Bissaka and him worse in sync together and easier to read? Because it’s not going to make Antony go out from the outside like Greenwood can - and shoot with the weaker foot.
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Let's see indeed. I am willing to take a bet on that too, if you're interested.
Played decent against Real Madrid but when Dalot came on the difference in attacking movement was quite obvious.
Those commenting about AWB being ineffective against Madrid and that we were better when Dalot came on forget to mention that Bruno was playing the right wing and Antony came on in place of him. In that one game, it's harsh to be really critical of him.
AWB's probably a better dribbler to be honest. He looks clumsy while doing it but he's strangely effective most of the time.
Passing and build-up are the things that Dalot is better at. AWB has the occasional game where he's suddenly very good at it, but most of the time he's below average while Dalot is fairly good at it.
AWB has improved and we have other areas that we must improve first. But saying there's only 5 better RBs must mean england has the best generation of RBs ever seen as he's not even considered for the national team.So you have no clue
Outside of James, Pavard and Hakimi it's really difficult to name RBs that are clearly better than him.
Here's 8 out of the top of my mind:
Cancelo
Walker
Kounde
Reece James
Hakimi
Carvajal
Tripper
Pavard
Off the top of my mind, I personally don’t see anything in Trippier & Cancelo plays LB, Pavard is a Centre back playing on the right and doesn’t want to play their anymore - Mazroui is better even at Ajax under Ten Hag but to me he is similar to Wan Bissaka in a level of skill set.
Its night and day because Rashford either starts on the left or drifts there and he's the one teams are weary of, which is why it may appear to some that opposition teams let AWB have the ball. They aren't letting him have the ball, they're just more concerned with stopping build up down the left than right, because the left is where Rashford is.
Its funny how so many people speak for ETH where Wan Bissaka is concerned when it seems quite clear the manager likes him and rates him over Dalot.
I'm about done with this clown. Brings 0 intensity to his play, awful passer, offers nothing in the final third, and often lackadaisical in his positioning.
And no this has nothing to do with preseason.
And no this has nothing to do with preseason.
Right back should be one of next year's priorities. We haven't got one who is good enough.
He probably broke the roof of the stadium with that shot.
Timber was the one. Would have fit perfectly with this team. But yes I'll take anyone at this point. My hope is Dalot can find some production in the final third to make himself indispensable in the meantime because AWB isn't it and never has been. He's a nice weapon on occasion to deploy against certain 1v1 wingers but that's it
Been one of our better players during pre-season but was obviously at fault for Dortmund's third.
We still could have stopped it. Evans got his head turned for no reason.
It happens. All of the conceded goals were the same. Losing the ball by playing it out of pressure. That's expected to happen when players are getting used to playing that way.
It happens. All of the conceded goals were the same. Losing the ball by playing it out of pressure. That's expected to happen when players are getting used to playing that way.