Yep. ‘Pro-life’ until it comes to the lives of women who will inevitably develop sepsis or some other deadly infection from their botched abortionsSo many unnecessary deaths to come, really depressing news.
Yep. ‘Pro-life’ until it comes to the lives of women who will inevitably develop sepsis or some other deadly infection from their botched abortionsSo many unnecessary deaths to come, really depressing news.
Or until they equally lighten gun laws which only affect those who shouldn’t have guns anyway.Yep. Pro-life until it comes to the lives of women who will inevitably catch sepsis or some other deadly infection from their botched abortions
Oh it's absolutely the Democrats' fault as well. They could have done what nearly every other Western country (and most of the rest of the world, to one degree or another) did, pass abortion legislation. But they made excuses, and they didn't, and now... yeah.Partly why I also have a gripe with the democrats in this, they’ve had majorities in recent times to be able to legislate this and not rely on the court. But they didn’t. And this is the resultant mess.
They don't care about those. Once you're born you fend for yourself and if you die it's probably your own fault.So many unnecessary deaths to come, really depressing news.
Yep, we had some windows that we fecked up. Here’s a great article on why Roe had never been codified since 1973…Partly why I also have a gripe with the democrats in this, they’ve had majorities in recent times to be able to legislate this and not rely on the court. But they didn’t. And this is the resultant mess.
100% they are. They will, at the same time, insist this is a ruling based on science (because a fertilized egg is a "human life") and continue to push extreme right-wing views based on a certain version of Christianity.And whilst the rest of the world looks at this debacle and sees a country going backwards, and at pace, they are probably sitting their smug thinking they’re leading the world in the right direction.
Shit’s been ready to go for years.These mf’ers don’t skip a beat, do they?
pro-life is one of the most infuriating terms in politics. when someone tells me they're pro-life I just feel like punching themYep. ‘Pro-life’ until it comes to the lives of women who will inevitably develop sepsis or some other deadly infection from their botched abortions
Yeah. And that argument of their bothers me so much because in a legal sense it is so clear that birth is treated as the moment that human life begins. It is when the state registers the existence of the person. Before that there are no requirements to register pregnancies in any way that would indicate a legal desire to treat unborn babies as people.100% they are. They will, at the same time, insist this is a ruling based on science (because a fertilized egg is a "human life") and continue to push extreme right-wing views based on a certain version of Christianity.
I remember some articles around 08-09 arguing that Democrats needed to use their super majority to pass federal legislation to legalize abortion but it never seemed to go further than a few articles. This is proving yet another instance of Obama and the super majority not doing near enoughOh it's absolutely the Democrats' fault as well. They could have done what nearly every other Western country (and most of the rest of the world, to one degree or another) did, pass abortion legislation. But they made excuses, and they didn't, and now... yeah.
Hear hear.pro-life is one of the most infuriating terms in politics. when someone tells me they're pro-life I just feel like punching them
One of the sticking points revolved around the Hyde Amendment & the fact that there were a couple of pro-life senators. But not nearly enough political capital & energy was expended.I remember some articles around 08-09 arguing that Democrats needed to use their super majority to pass federal legislation to legalize abortion but it never seemed to go further than a few articles. This is proving yet another instance of Obama and the super majority not doing near enough
You are giving often times irredeemable people too much credit. The draw of the **** is sometimes greater than the draw of family.And it's so weird that this is an issue that affects everyone, these idiots celebrating the decision will see family members, friends and people in their community suffer because of this. Surely they must care about them, even if they hate "the libs".
Sometimes it seems to me that either the cruelty, or the one-upmanship, or both are the entire point. Who benefits?And it's so weird that this is an issue that affects everyone, these idiots celebrating the decision will see family members, friends and people in their community suffer because of this. Surely they must care about them, even if they hate "the libs".
Cruelty isn’t the bug, it’s the feature.Sometimes it seems to me that either the cruelty, or the one-upmanship, or both are the entire point. Who benefits?
These feckers don't give a shit and just play a role. "We need a hearing next month". Your house is on fire you cnut.
Capitalists.Sometimes it seems to me that either the cruelty, or the one-upmanship, or both are the entire point. Who benefits?
They will cherry pick precedents to their benefit.I’m sure this Thomas guy didn’t just wake up today and decide that laws protecting same-sex marriage etc. should be overturned. It’s just that he can now say it with his chest because Roe has set a precedent. Just like how all the neo-nazis and racists showed their asses out loud once trump became president.
Exactly. Of course, Thomas won't take that into account when they try to push for a national ban next.Yeah. And that argument of their bothers me so much because in a legal sense it is so clear that birth is treated as the moment that human life begins. It is when the state registers the existence of the person. Before that there are no requirements to register pregnancies in any way that would indicate a legal desire to treat unborn children as people.
True. I've heard some conservatives recently argue this is necessary to keep birth rates up.Capitalists.
Every human born are either consumers or cheap labour.
Capitalism relies in constant growth, and with people aborting at will, it makes it harder.
Seriously? Extraordinary.True. I've heard some conservatives recently argue this is necessary to keep birth rates up.
I bet any money that registering pregnancies is less than a decade away.Yeah. And that argument of their bothers me so much because in a legal sense it is so clear that birth is treated as the moment that human life begins. It is when the state registers the existence of the person. Before that there are no requirements to register pregnancies in any way that would indicate a legal desire to treat unborn children as people.
Followed by this…I bet any money that registering pregnancies is less than a decade away.
There's full on Handmaid's Tale shit in the air.Followed by this…