Ahmaud Arbery Murder Trial / all three defendants found guilty of murder & hate crimes
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Why does this trial get way less exposure than the Rittenhouse one?
Seemingly less legal gray area is my guess.
Less controversial and anyone who is on the opposite of this one isn't going to be dumb enough to try and defend the men on trial.
I would have thought this was one much more controversial because it has a far more obvious racist vibe coming from the perpetrators.
Marxcafe, bro. We're just an echo chamber and we all agree that this was racially motivated and completely indefensible.
And I thought when I amended this thread to include the Pillsbury Dough Boy's trial, this trial would overshadow it.
We used to be Libcafe for so long, have we finally graduated to Marxcafe?
We did it guys!
Salutations, comrade.
Great news for the prosecution on the jury instructions. Convictions likely
The white supremacist knows this is a dead end and there's not much they can twist.
KR on the other hand. He'll be their poster boys.
Picking fights and all that.
This trial will overshadow it if those three Christmas hams don’t get the sentencing they deserve. At this point you would think there’s no way they can avoid what’s coming to them, but you never know these days.
This looks like an open and shut case.
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Suffice to say he lit up that thread and had many people chomping at the bit to rebuttal, reply and even get an "echo chamber" going apparently
But yeah, think this one is (hopefully) more clear cut and they will answer for what the did.
Maybe on this forum, I swear I haven't been lighting up the entire internet!One word:
Drainy.
Suffice to say he lit up that thread and had many people chomping at the bit to rebuttal, reply and even get an "echo chamber" going apparently
But yeah, think this one is (hopefully) more clear cut and they will answer for what the did.
I think most reasonable people understand that the McMichaels and Bryan were the aggressors in this case so unless the verdict becomes the story its not going to be as big a 'story' as the other trial.
With Rittenhouse it was a political football, but its a clear cut case once the facts are laid out. I'm not even right wing, but it pisses me off to see people who I would agree with on a lot of political subjects having such low information or emotive takes that don't reflect reality at all.
While I was growing up the left wing were the side of truth and justice, regardless of the person being scrutinised.
I'm just glad he sacked his previous lawyers otherwise it would be a million times worse.
Maybe because the trial is not televised
Hoping the perpetrators get convicted, no excuses shooting an unarmed person who was jogging while black. Fry the cnuts.
Nobody is coming to the defense of the racist fecks. The media has tried different angles here, trial is less than 20 minutes away, but nobody expects or wants these guys to get less than the maximum sentence.
Where are you located?
Woodbine Georgia.
I’m in Savannah. Lived on St. Simon’s Island for years in the 00s. Small world.
It is a small world.
Prosecuter is killing it.
I'd expect a verdict within a day
I'd expect a verdict within a day
I thought that the KR verdict would take a few days, this verdict should be far sooner.
Does it go to the jury later today?
If the closing arguments finish early enough. Possibly tomorrow.
This is open and shut unjustified from what I have heard from the trial.
Will be interesting to see how they end up distinguishing between the three. I guess it is to be expected that both the McMichael's will get the same sentence, and Bryan will get off lighter.
Apparently Bryan committed an assault with his car by trying to block the road and almost hitting Arbery so hard to see him getting leniency.
Right, I actually thought he had mainly chased and filmed. Then he is just as culpable, I would say.
just caught the last 10 min of the closing. Seems an open and shut case but all it takes is one person on that jury to channel their inner white supremacist and things will get tricky.
Yeah that was the initial reporting at the time. I had thought the same.
Accessories to murder don't get much leniency in the US Justice system.
This defence lawyer's closing might as well be just be a long 'Come ooooooooonnnnnnnnnnn'
We've had a Chewbacca Defence
Please explain, I’m at work.We've had a Chewbacca Defence
The McMichaels' defence lawyer has been pleading with the jury to ignore the law (jury nullification) for most of closing, but threw is a random deliberately confusing argument about how it would be impossible if someone asked for him to prove his name, or his mother's name in the court if people called him a liar. It was just bizarre.
They have no legal defence so it was just pounding the table.
As far as I understand, it's basically the courtroom equivalent of a Gish gallop.
Thanks!
Greg McMichael's attorney basically begging for a hung jury