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Of course I do, but the few times I've seen WBA this season there has been nothing more obvious than a 'cba' attitude. Strikingly similar to the way Villa went down - some decent players in there but quite clearly happy to take home a healthy pay packet with no repercussions.
Definitely. Pardew was a disastrous appointment, but the attitude you describe was in place before he arrived and he did nothing to stem it.

I know he’s never been a Caf favourite, but Barry was always known as a top pro prior to going there. Something obviously rotten off the field, though unlike Villa (and Sunderland) it seems to have come about all of a sudden, rather than through years of decline.
 

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Barry was out partying the other night in a Brum nightclub with a bunch of teenagers

He's lost the plot
 

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Wonder if Pardew will be doing the hokey cokey in his living room tonight. In out in out shake it all about.
 

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Alan Pardew is destined to go down as one of the worst managers in Albion’s history, if not the worst.

His record of three wins in 21 games leaves him with the joint-lowest win percentage alongside Nobby Stiles. It’s even worse than Pep Mel’s three in 17.

But two of Pardew’s wins came in the FA Cup, and one of those was against a team in the fourth tier. Stiles picked up more draws too.

The results speak for themselves. Pardew has taken the club from just above the relegation zone to adrift at the bottom of the table, 10 points from safety.

But his disastrous four-month tenure will be remembered for far more than just the defeats.

Off-field controversies and high-profile fall-outs with senior players lost him respect in the dressing room.

Pardew may have been a great PR man in the press room, where he said all the right things, particularly early on, but it masked his deficiencies in the dugout.

He was obsessed with being everything Tony Pulis was not, because he thought that was what the fans wanted, and it proved to be his downfall.

There was an early warning sign when he played three strikers in his first game in charge, not because it was tactically the right thing to do against Crystal Palace, but because he wanted to make a ‘little bit of a statement’.

He persisted with two strikers after that, even for games when it left the team overrun in midfield.

It wasn’t until Chris Brunt’s furious rant in the dressing room after the home defeat to Huddersfield that he realised he needed to adapt.

The way he treated young players like Sam Field and Oliver Burke was borderline disgraceful.

Field was playing well when he arrived, and had just scored against Newcastle, but he shunted the young fan favourite out to left wing at Swansea, his second game in charge, in order to manufacture his removal from the side.

The teenager was hooked at half-time and wasn’t seen again until a trip to champions-in-waiting Manchester City, where he was made a sacrificial lamb.

Before the game, Pardew asked Field over and over again if he was ‘s***ing himself’ in front of the rest of the squad. If this was supposed to be a motivational tool, it was grossly misjudged.


Burke, too, was publicly shamed for crossing the ball into the box against West Ham in injury time with the scores level, just days after Pardew had urged his team to take more risks in order to win games.

The Hammers went up the other end and scored, but it was not the rest of team’s fault, who let the hosts sweep through them with ease, it was Burke’s.

His mistreatment of the youngsters didn’t go down well with the rest of the squad.

Those senior professionals Pardew put all his trust in, repaid him by questioning his authority.

Barcelona was the nadir. Not only was it booked because Pardew expected the team to lose to Liverpool in the FA Cup, he then decided to go through with it even though Albion only had four full days in between games.

Taxi-gate is destined to go down in Albion folklore, and the players deserve to shoulder a lot of the blame for this season, but those early-morning actions show exactly the sort of atmosphere Pardew had created at the club.

Afterwards, the head coach claimed they broke a 12am curfew, but there has been some suggestion that no such curfew was ever in place.

The night before, Pardew had lost his wallet, phone, and jacket on an evening out.

Albion trained for three hours in total. It was a booze cruise intended to build morale, but it turned into a nightmare.

Pardew’s reaction was unsatisfactory. By keeping Jonny Evans and Gareth Barry in the team for the FA Cup game against Southampton days later, he proved himself to be a spineless leader.

He had no control of his squad, even then, and should have been sacked after that ill-advised trip.

Fans started to see through the PR which had initially won them round, and players too began to openly criticise him.

Eyewitnesses claim Grzegorz Krychowiak told him to ‘f*** off’ when Pardew hooked him during the home match with Leicester.

The Pole, who had played quite well in the first half, hasn’t been seen since.

On Saturday, when Pardew changed formation several times in a disastrous first half, his orders were received with confused looks by those on the pitch.

Two board members have already lost their jobs partly because he was employed, and now Pardew has finally left.

The smooth operator who took Albion on a rough ride, he’s been a dead man walking for some weeks now.

Hopefully it will bring about a positive finish to a poisonous season, as fans rally around Darren Moore for the final six games.

Pardew, meanwhile, will struggle to get another job in the top tier after this. And he is surely destined to go down as one of Albion’s worst ever managers.
https://www.expressandstar.com/spor...roms-worst-ever-managers/#vPKbVkZ4QCbBYsLw.99
 

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A new manager was brought in to motivate the team, Pardew completely failed to do that, even a little bit.

If the squad can see he's a clueless twat, that's the manager's fault, not the player's.

I am sure your average, journeyman, PL player knows full well these merry go round managers are a load of shite.
Even if mr blobby comes in as their manager, it’s their job to play as best they can, not steal taxis to get a Macdonald’s at 4 in the morning. Players don’t just just for the manager, they play for the poor sods paying money to watch those idiots. No matter how terrible a manager pardew is, the players owe their best to the fans.
 

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Even if mr blobby comes in as their manager, it’s their job to play as best they can, not steal taxis to get a Macdonald’s at 4 in the morning. Players don’t just just for the manager, they play for the poor sods paying money to watch those idiots. No matter how terrible a manager pardew is, the players owe their best to the fans.
Read the article above your post.
 

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Read the article above your post.
I don’t need to read it, it’s a BS excuse to lay the blame of grown men acting like assholes at the feet of a poor manager. And no matter how poor a manager he is, those players still owe the fans their best effort, which they did not give.

Downing tools because your manager is crap is what children do. These are not children, they are grown men who get paid very well to play for a club that’s paid for by and large by fans who turn up every game. They sucked under pulls, and they sucked more under pardew. Manager takes the blame for what he does wrong, players take the blame for what they do wrong. Piss poor tactics, managers fault. Piss poor attitude on and off the pitch, players fault.
 
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I don’t need to read it, it’s a BS excuse to lay the blame of grown men acting like assholes at the feet of a poor manager. And no matter how poor a manager he is, those players still owe the fans their best effort, which they did not give.

Downing tools because your manager is crap is what children do. These are not children, they are grown men who get paid very well to play for a club that’s paid for by and large by fans who turn up every game. They sucked under pulls, and they sucked more under pardew. Manager takes the blame for what he does wrong, players take the blame for what they do wrong. Piss poor tactics, managers fault. Piss poor attitude on and off the pitch, players fault.
Are you his mum? :lol:
 

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I don't like wishing relegation on anyone (well, almost anyone!) but I would not be disappointed to see WBA, West Ham and Everton all go down.
Why? Seems a random set of clubs for a City supporter to want relegated.

Except West Ham. Everyone hates West Ham.
 

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I can see a new tagline... Alan Pardew's night clubbing friend.
 

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We must thank him for taking time out of his busy schedule to get West Brom relegated.
 

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Anyone else completely bored of the Pardew/Hughes/Moyes/Pulis/Allardyce merry go round?

Me too....Although it is quite funny in its inevitability.

But Pardew is perhaps the easiest to actually dislike, the others are just basically not very good at doing what they're paid £millions to do.

Hopefully this will be the last time that we'll have to see him and listen to him on MOTD.
 

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Clubs deserve all they get when they keep hiring these proven failures. I mean what goes on at the job interview with guys like Pardew? Do they even have a job interview?

"So Alan, why'd you leave your last job?"
"Well, I got sacked for being useless"
"Great! When can you start?"
 

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Clubs deserve all they get when they keep hiring these proven failures. I mean what goes on at the job interview with guys like Pardew? Do they even have a job interview?

"So Alan, why'd you leave your last job?"
"Well, I got sacked for being useless"
"Great! When can you start?"
Id say its the short term thinking of the clubs owners. They are so desperate to stay in the PL that they dont care about long term thinking. Pardew has in the past inspired his squads to have a short term boost, that didnt happen this time for whatever reason. However, its down to these clubs that only care about getting that PL pay packet. Its that limited thinking that continues to see proven failures get hired again and again simply because of the short term boost they can offer to hopefully keep the respective clubs in the PL. Look at hughes, took stoke all the way to the bottom, fired, walked into the southhampton job with ease. Its like a shit version of game of thrones, "this ones on bottom, then that ones bottom, and on and on it spins crushing the dreams of supporters in the stands.", only no one is rushing to break this wheel.
 
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To be fair to Pulis, he did the right thing. He went down a level to work his way back up, which is what SHOULD happen to the merry-go-round managers but never seems to happen. Pardew should be working at Chester or Barnet or something next time he appears.
Pulis has much less of a bad record too. Only West Brom he failed at really I think.
Him, Allardyce and Hodgson are the best of the names mentioned in this thread.