What's the summary of the last 18 pages then? We seem to have gone to "if true, get rid" to a non story. What's happened in between?
Alleged Sex scandal involving Spanish players | No Evidence | Stop Guessing Names
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It would not surprise me if the timing was all about the Spanish number 1 position. From the latest updates, it seems the allegations were made sometime ago and was dismissed ages ago.
The Spanish outlets deliberately decided to ignore that last part.
It's disgusting.
The Spanish outlets deliberately decided to ignore that last part.
It's disgusting.
Turns out the police investigated the claims and found no evidence to support them so it's likely that nothing will happen.
The claims appear to just be part of a body of evidence against the porn producer guy rather than being accusations that are solid enough to stand up on their own.
Sorry if already linked in one of the tweets, but not everyoen can read tweets anyways..
David De Gea has claimed allegations that he organised a meeting in which two girls were “sexually abused” by Spain Under-21 teammates are “all false” and insisted he will stay with his teammates and take part in Euro 2016.
The Manchester United goalkeepers international colleagues had refused to take questions or comment on the 25-year-old’s situation after reports on Friday in El Diario had revealed the contents of a protected witness statement that named De Gea in a wider prostitution and people trafficking case.
But De Gea came out and completely denied the claims, assuring fans that he would play for Spain if called upon.
“It is all a lie,” he said. “I feel even stronger about staying with the national team now... it is all false and it is in my lawyers hands”
“I never thought about leaving [the camp]. It gives me more strength to train even harder,” he adds.
“I’m still very relaxed, just want to train and do what I like to do. I just want the tournament to start and to play.
“I am a quiet guy and it is difficult that something affects me. And when something is false more reasons not to be affected
“I was playing the Playstation in the room when I was told about it. Above all I wanted to tell my family, so they know this is all false, and they can be relaxed.
“I know what I have done with my life. It is all false.
“I have no idea where reports came from or how I could be [mixed up] in this. I am very relaxed, and I can only say it is all false.”
from the mirror covering the presser
David De Gea has claimed allegations that he organised a meeting in which two girls were “sexually abused” by Spain Under-21 teammates are “all false” and insisted he will stay with his teammates and take part in Euro 2016.
The Manchester United goalkeepers international colleagues had refused to take questions or comment on the 25-year-old’s situation after reports on Friday in El Diario had revealed the contents of a protected witness statement that named De Gea in a wider prostitution and people trafficking case.
But De Gea came out and completely denied the claims, assuring fans that he would play for Spain if called upon.
“It is all a lie,” he said. “I feel even stronger about staying with the national team now... it is all false and it is in my lawyers hands”
“I never thought about leaving [the camp]. It gives me more strength to train even harder,” he adds.
“I’m still very relaxed, just want to train and do what I like to do. I just want the tournament to start and to play.
“I am a quiet guy and it is difficult that something affects me. And when something is false more reasons not to be affected
“I was playing the Playstation in the room when I was told about it. Above all I wanted to tell my family, so they know this is all false, and they can be relaxed.
“I know what I have done with my life. It is all false.
“I have no idea where reports came from or how I could be [mixed up] in this. I am very relaxed, and I can only say it is all false.”
from the mirror covering the presser
The police in Spain are appear very unprofessional. Details like this should not be made public unless the judge allows them to.
If this is indeed a load of bollocks, could be enough to put him off moving back to Spain for a very long time.
Well.. best case scenario if he's guilty is his woman dumps him and he's stuck with us 
.. of course that's no good if he's locked up.
In all seriousness though, these sex allegations come out several times a year against footballers. I'll wait until the court case, if any.
.. of course that's no good if he's locked up. In all seriousness though, these sex allegations come out several times a year against footballers. I'll wait until the court case, if any.
I know it's easy to be sensative when such cases arise. I'd have had every simpathy if it was true. But you can't say I wasn't right. The day of a major tournament and something like this comes out. It's not a coinsadence.
There won't be any court case here. The police have said there's nothing to seeWell.. best case scenario if he's guilty is his woman dumps him and he's stuck with us
In all seriousness though, these sex allegations come out several times a year against footballers. I'll wait until the court case, if any.
I think the pleasure comes from the sexual acts.
Doubt it has anything to do with being shallow. Famous people want to have sex as well, potential consequences are far bigger from casual sex with strangers than it is from ordering prostitutes.
Late to this story, but I am not going to jump to conclusion until all the facts are out. If the story is true, I do not understand why these footballers will be involved in such a thing.
Someone at Madrid being a cnut because he wants to stay at United with Mourinho??
Well, it looks like we will never know. Police said they've investigated and found nothing.
2+2=4
Wow that was resolved quickly
. Maybe it was just posted late to Redcafe and the case was something ongoing for awhile.Thread title updated and a few threadmarks added. Surprised that hadn't been done already tbh.
Also, please stop posting that photo.
Also, please stop posting that photo.
I only understand Spanish partially, so am not sure about the meaning of the second paragraph. Does it say police confirmed through whatsapp that De Gea indeed contacted (and paid for) the prostitutes, or does it say the witness claimed it could be confirmed through whatsapp?
@Vato @carvajal @those barça fans I don't quite remember the name
What's your problem? Read what I said.
A conversation could have occurred through Whatsapp.
Edit, no sorry. All that text is what the witness claims
Thanks. Well, if the document isn't fake, it does make the "it's all false" claim of De Gea a bit problematic. There may not have been abuses or they may be impossible to prove, but De Gea wasn't being accused of this anyway, so what exactly is he denying?
The police doesn't confirm, they say that it's what the girl said.
Quite a few people in this thread should be fecking ashamed of themselves.
completely agree
Presumably he's denying all involvement. In other words, he's implying the witness is either lying or mistaken.
You and carvajal seem to disagree on this. I guess we'll know better in the near future, the police may have stopped the investigation, but the media will certainly keep on milking this.
I wonder the same,if there are whatsapps he has nothing to do.Anyway in his situation and right now the only thing that he can do is a press conference denying it
Carvajal edited his post
Agreed. It is truly mind boggling how naive some people can be.
Look at the first sentence of the paragraph, "que quiere precisar", they are talking about the girls.
I'm so proud I refrained from commenting till more facts were out in the open. Other posters should also try to do the same next time something like this happens.
That he's a pimp who assists in the sexual abuse of women I assume. How could he not deny that if it's untrue?
Yeah, I got it now, carvajal edited his post.
So he arranged a prostitute for his mates? Nothing story.
Just a quick summary (because life's too short and all that) of the story from the original docs/reports.
Madrid boy DdG set up and paid for a couple of girls to meet two of his out of town U21 pals in a smart Madrid hotel. One of the women says that she didn't go there expecting to act as a prostitute to a group of people and she asked the pimp (porn producer, accused Torbe) to let her leave. He told her she couldn't, physically restrained her and even threatened her family.
Did the footballers witness it? She says they must have seen some of it, including the threats made ordering her not to tell anyone about it. Did she know who they were? She knew Muniain. She didn't recognise the other one but was told that he was a teammate.
She WhatsApped DdG later fishing for information because she was planning to act as a witness against Torbe. She wanted to know the second footballer's name. She was led to believe by DdG that it was another Athletic player but he didn't give a name. She identified for the police a player that doesn't play for Athletic.
Because she was fishing for evidence the WhatsApp chat to DdG was flirtatious (to put it politely). He responded by suggesting another party, this time with some United lads.
If that description is accurate then whatever moral condemnation you might want to throw, in legal terms it more or less clears DdG. From his perspective she had a fun night with his pals and was game for another go.
The other allegation, that the players got copies of a recording of Torbe having sex with an under age girl is just that, at the present. That he may have been sent a copy. Not that he asked for it, distributed it etc.
Madrid boy DdG set up and paid for a couple of girls to meet two of his out of town U21 pals in a smart Madrid hotel. One of the women says that she didn't go there expecting to act as a prostitute to a group of people and she asked the pimp (porn producer, accused Torbe) to let her leave. He told her she couldn't, physically restrained her and even threatened her family.
Did the footballers witness it? She says they must have seen some of it, including the threats made ordering her not to tell anyone about it. Did she know who they were? She knew Muniain. She didn't recognise the other one but was told that he was a teammate.
She WhatsApped DdG later fishing for information because she was planning to act as a witness against Torbe. She wanted to know the second footballer's name. She was led to believe by DdG that it was another Athletic player but he didn't give a name. She identified for the police a player that doesn't play for Athletic.
Because she was fishing for evidence the WhatsApp chat to DdG was flirtatious (to put it politely). He responded by suggesting another party, this time with some United lads.
If that description is accurate then whatever moral condemnation you might want to throw, in legal terms it more or less clears DdG. From his perspective she had a fun night with his pals and was game for another go.
The other allegation, that the players got copies of a recording of Torbe having sex with an under age girl is just that, at the present. That he may have been sent a copy. Not that he asked for it, distributed it etc.
Who leaked this on the eve of the game? Pretty scummy thing to do.
If Dave was guilty, then he should be ashamed of himself, but since there was no proof, we have to just move on with it. Last, but not the least, I feel for the affected women, hopefully they are in good hands and have settled in life.
If Dave was guilty, then he should be ashamed of himself, but since there was no proof, we have to just move on with it. Last, but not the least, I feel for the affected women, hopefully they are in good hands and have settled in life.
i remember what happened to sunbed on uniteds tour of sweden if social media was about in 1990 he would of been found guilty by the masses and lost his carear as it was he was complety innocent so its best to keep stumm
He wouldnt hurt a fly.