I don't agree with this. Barca have been winning 8-9 La Ligas in the last 12 years, it's not due just to weak Madrid (R/A) teams this particular season. They came unstuck at Anfield, shit happens - otherwise they've been dominant in the strongest league in the world.
Allegri is leaving Juventus
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I'd consider Liverpool stronger than City. 1 point variance in a long season is absolutely nothing and on head-to-head games Klopp has the measure of Guardiola.
But the bias over the EPL here is staggering - omg they amassed 98 points, they're amazing. Well what about PSG, surely they had a feckup against United, but why aren't they in the conversation? Barca had a feckup at Anfield but otherwise a stellar season. Juve has been a little wobbly despite results and RM/Bayern went through transitory seasons.
We'll see again next season, but if I were a betting man I'd say City would not even make the CL final next year, let alone win it.
Man City cannot be the best team in Europe if it has never reached the semis of CL or couldn't even beat Lyon once
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I agree with you about the league being a foregone conclusion, but it's not a reasonable expectation of any team, player, or manager to deliver the Champions League. Not least because you need luck.
There are countless examples of this, but, for example, the first two English teams to win the Champions League, Man United in 1999 and Liverpool in 2005, were both extremely lucky in the final. And in the semi-finals, the only goal Liverpool scored may not have gone over the line, and United were 3-1 down against Juventus, and if they hadn't scored an injury time equaliser in the first-leg then they would have been dead.
But that wouldn't have made Ferguson a worse manager, it's just the nature of a knockout competition, in which one bad period of 45 minutes can kill you. The best coach, Guardiola, hasn't won the Champions League for some time. The best player, Messi, hasn't won the Champions League for some time. It's not easy to win because you're always playing the top teams in the world, and any mistakes and you're finished. It's just not reasonable to say to any manager that you have to win the Champions League, or else you've failed.
The last 12 years have little relevance to the discussion though. We were pretty fecking great 12 years ago, too. The current Barcelona team is not the same that won everything under Pep or even the one that won the Treble under Luis Enrique. It's an older, slower, lesser side.
That would be delightful! But stop bothering United for Pogba, and they can keep Dybala if they want.
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Hope we can get him to change his mind when Ole gets sacked in December.
Good. That gives me some hope. Had expected him to come here this summer and as much as I want Ole to do well, I still want him here. Absolutely class. How are Ole's DoF chops?
Pragmatic football
You lot are embarrassing.
We already had Mourinho. Obviously, Allegri isn't a toxic person like Mourinho but his style is as boring and outdated ...
Exactly. They had by far he best squad in the league, and the football they played was so boring.
The only top manager available now, Woodward should start preparing to contact him soon.
Another defensive tumescent football manager. I am losing a bit of interest in football generally, this would hasten it.
No thanks
Feck. No.
All we'd be doing is going backwards yet again due to a huge difference in playing style. Having to sell half our team and buy new ones over the next few windows to fully back the style of football, only for it to be boring to watch. No thanks. Sure we could win a few cups here and there, but we'd still be a long way away from City and Liverpool.
All we'd be doing is going backwards yet again due to a huge difference in playing style. Having to sell half our team and buy new ones over the next few windows to fully back the style of football, only for it to be boring to watch. No thanks. Sure we could win a few cups here and there, but we'd still be a long way away from City and Liverpool.
So you would sack the manager after 3 games?
Not just three games is it? 3 wins in 16 games. Is that good enough?
Watford will probably sack their manager.
Yes, the solution to improving a team devoid of any attacking ideas is to bring in a manager who was heavily criticized for being devoid of any attacking ideas while managing a much better team full of offensive talent.
New season ffs. With fans like you we end up with 10 managers in a season.
New season and it’s pretty much the same shit ffs.
Tbf, if Woodward tells him the team must play an attacking style, Allegri would have them play an attacking style...just not sure how well he'd do it
Same whining lot
I'm not advocating him coming as manager but he's basically the board's only choice when they realize that Ole isn't the man for the job.
What we need is an attacking manager that loves to attack. Not some defensive manager or a manager that counter attacks.
No feck.
As long as he's in charge of any footballing decisions we shouldn't bother.
Winning the Italian league with Juventus is no feat imo. Juventus are in a league of their own.
He also won with Milan tbf - although at the time the still had the Italian pm pulling the strings..
He also won with Milan tbf - although at the time the still had the Italian pm pulling the strings..
He won with Zlatan
And then had the enviable record of losing a league title with peak Zlatan
Got much better since then though
Much better by winning Serie A with Juventus? It s like winning bundesliga with bayern
It would be like making the same mistake again. Appoint any young manager who has excellent technical knowledge - Rose, Potter would be my choice
Hasenhuttl would also be an inspired choice.
Hasenhuttl would also be an inspired choice.
Yes, he was a much better manager at juventus than he was at milan. Nevermind that anybody could have done it. He also made 2 CL finals and played Bayern and Real Madrid even the other 2 seasons
Last year was the first one were he was disappointing
I will commit suicide if we appoint Allegri. Sick and tired of defensive football.
People going on about defensive football. When have we played that? We can’t defend for our lives.
Watched a lot of Allegri's Juve while PP was there and didn't like his playstyle at all, honestly. There's a reason why he was sacked despite winning 4 (!) domestic doubles in a row.
That being said, I wouldn't hesitate a second to sack Ole and get Allegri when he's available. We are not in position to demand pretty football when we are at risk of missing out on CL again. This is Manchester f*cking United! It's absolutely ridiculous to have a PR puppet with no managerial or tactical knowledge like OGS in charge. Allegri's United wouldn't be pretty, but he would get the job done no doubt - CL qualification, and getting the best out of PP.
That being said, I wouldn't hesitate a second to sack Ole and get Allegri when he's available. We are not in position to demand pretty football when we are at risk of missing out on CL again. This is Manchester f*cking United! It's absolutely ridiculous to have a PR puppet with no managerial or tactical knowledge like OGS in charge. Allegri's United wouldn't be pretty, but he would get the job done no doubt - CL qualification, and getting the best out of PP.
Look how many italian coaches have been successful in the recent years in the english league: Ancelotti, Mancini, Conte, Sarri, Ranieri even Di Matteo…. tactically wise there's no comparasion, the italian school gives lessons to the epl.
Few managers I rate higher than Allegri.