He will start against Newcastle, that’s obvious.
Altay Bayındır | 2023/24 Performances
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
He must be really shit if Onana is starting every single game over him.
Just put him in. He can’t be any worse can he?
Wanna bet?
Why not, it’s a safe one. It’s ok to make a mistake, but it’s unacceptable to tolerate disgraceful performances. ETH won’t.
You're just asking for this line to bite you in the arse one day.
Nah, he won’t. Onana’s been ok in the league. So long as that doesn’t change he won’t be dropped. Keepers only get dropped very very rarely anyway.
So you want Bayindir to come in cold in January or, worse, leave in that month on a transfer because of a lack of playing time?
As I said in the other thread, the other guy did more than enough to get hung with the rope that was given to him. Enough is enough and it means Bayindir must play.
What is your definition of obvious? I would be absolutely shocked if he dropped Onana.Obvious is something that goes without saying. In relation to team selection, it is obvious that a player who has made several mistakes, that one’s grandma wouldn’t have made, deserves to be dropped.
Players should be made accountable for their performances, especially considering weekly wages they are getting. Many people earn less in a year
Weren't various people warning before the signing was even confirmed that this guy was more liable to drop a clanger than Onana, based on more recent performances, and wasn't anything like United quality? Be careful what you wish for, especially since Onana has some of the best GK stats in the league on various metrics (if not the best, at least according to Whoscored's measures).
You think a 25 year old keeper who was playing for Fenerbahce, with only 8 caps for Turkey, is going to leave due to lack of playing time. Despite signing after we signed the manager’s former keeper for £50 million?
Probably best we try him out in an easier game, rather than away to Newcastle. Maybe Bournemouth, home to Villa, Forrest. Etc.
I’m just telling you what’s going to happen. Bayindir won’t start this weekend. You’ll see.
Your first paragraph is a total nonsense btw.
Maybe for you it seems obvious that Onana should be dropped. That certainly doesn’t mean it’s obvious he will be. Ten Hag has shown no willingness to drop him or other underperforming players in the past. Certainly not away to Newcastle.
Oh, really?
He’s dropped underperforming players multiple times before. That’s a weird claim. Dropping your keeper is a very different scenario though. There’s a reason it’s incredibly rare.
He’s kept Rashford in throughout this season. Højlund hasn’t scored a Premier Legue goal. Antony continually played through bad form since signing. Lindelof was a disaster in the first half against Everton and keeps his place over Varane. Onana makes however many mistakes and starts. Bruno has had awful games and is guaranteed a start in the next game.
He backs the players rather than dropping them. Look what happened after the big defeats last season, the same players started the next game.
Rashford’s been dropped, Antony’s been dropped and I can’t quite believe you’re using Varane’s name as evidence to bolster your argument about ETH not dropping players!
Garnacho’s been dropped, Reguillon’s been (very quickly) dropped, Mount’s been dropped, Eriksen’s been dropped… Amrabat is, let’s say, on the verge of being dropped too…
Last season it was McTominay, Fred, Maguire…
ETH will say Onana has kept 3 PL clean sheets in a row and is joint golden glove currently. No chance he gets dropped.
Huh? What game was Rashford dropped for in his poor form this season? Lindelof was terrible against Everton but kept his place. Varane got injured and hasn’t come back in. Ten Hag thinks Lindelof is a better passer. Okay. People were moaning all of last year for Antony to be dropped, and accused Ten Hag of favouriting “his” players. How selective is your memory?
Players like Mctominay, Mount, Eriksen and Amrabat have all been rotated because it’s easy to do so (and also because thats how squads work?) Did he drop Casemiro this season through his bad form, for even one game?
Regulion has come in and out again - it’s very easy to drop loan players like Regulion when you have proper first 11 players like Shaw back. Do you actually think he drops big players like Shaw, Martinez, Bruno, Rashford, Højlund and Onana etc if they have a bad game or two?
If I worded my original post too definitively, I apologise. He meant he doesn’t drop his big players for poor performances and Onana is one of them. The rest of the squad is much of a muchness and can clearly be rotated in and out for fitness or tactics.
Have your heard of Antony? Terrible performance aside, Onana is top of the Prem in saved xG, clean sheets and has single-handedly saved us multiple points that we shouldn't have had due to the shambolic defending in front of him.
I'm not saying he's phenomenal but there are far more pressing issues than him. Like, fielding a passenger in the midfield, because he chips in with the occasional goal, which leads us to constantly losing the middle of the pitch and resort to long balls. Or being useless in 1/3 of the pitch due to Antony's existance.
I don't think he'll ever get a whiff of a start unless Onana spontaneously combusts, which is fair since Onana is obviously the better keeper.
But Altay Bayindir is the first choice for his own national team which is bound for Euro 24, was the first choice of one of the top teams of his own country, and now he sits in the bench not even playing cup games. I guess the money is good for him but how long can this last? Does he think that if (big if) ETH gives up on Onana he will become a long-term mainstay and not get replaced by another big purchase replacement?
But Altay Bayindir is the first choice for his own national team which is bound for Euro 24, was the first choice of one of the top teams of his own country, and now he sits in the bench not even playing cup games. I guess the money is good for him but how long can this last? Does he think that if (big if) ETH gives up on Onana he will become a long-term mainstay and not get replaced by another big purchase replacement?
Another instance of poor management by ETH. None of us know how poor Bayandir might be, but there is no plausible explanation whatsoever for not giving him one minute of play so far this season.
Is the risk that if Bayandir might perform brilliantly? If so, that’s a risk worth taking.
Is the risk that if Bayandir might perform brilliantly? If so, that’s a risk worth taking.
i mean, he was bought as a clear #2 I'm not sure what people are expecting.
Never seen him play. How good is he? What are his strengths and weaknesses?
He's going to have to play if Onana gets called up by Cameroon for AFCON, which seems likely.
He also doesn't appear to be Turkey's first choice at all.
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We really should have given him a run out before throwing him into first team football in January.
I assume he will be making his debut vs Wigan
*rafiki voice*
It's time
It's time
Don’t think he’ll ever make his debut. Poor guy.
Will be the first player to have his debut and testimonial as the same game - legend
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Bayindir will reignite our charge to 6th place
Does anyone know if he's actually any good? The indication from the lack of playing time is that he must be pretty shite.
Given that we are desperate for Onana to play 1 more game and having the weirdest arrangement of all time, I'd assume ten hag has 0 faith in him
It’s quite fascinating. Could he have stunk it up in training that bad?
I reckon it may be more, Onana pushing for it because he wants to prove a point/feels like he needs to make amends for errors he's made so far.