Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp | Depp wins on all 3 counts

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At what point do we stop talking about a civil lawsuit and start talking about perjury.
 

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Think Heard is going to win this and I despair to think of what is going to MichaelRed who has been calling vets to check if dogs get bowel syndrome after eating weed
"calling vets". Just messaged a group chat of friends but ok.
 

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Theres no way they allow her to continue as the face of a media campaign against domestic violence after her being a domestic abuser, or is this a form of misogyny from me for wanting this horrible creature to get punished for the lies and being such a horrible person.
 

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Theres no way they allow her to continue as the face of a media campaign against domestic violence after her being a domestic abuser, or is this a form of misogyny from me for wanting this horrible creature to get punished for the lies and being such a horrible person.
Yea. Misogynist. How dare you call yourself a lefty.
 

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Theres no way they allow her to continue as the face of a media campaign against domestic violence after her being a domestic abuser, or is this a form of misogyny from me for wanting this horrible creature to get punished for the lies and being such a horrible person.

I think it's the damage she is doing to true victims of domestic abuse
 

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We're getting pretty close to that point where Heard will be to domestic abuse what Jussie Smollet is to hate crimes.
 

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I've just heard the Sydney stuff where Depp is talking about going to different rooms to get a break, like a boxer trying to get the break between rounds.

Again I'll state that I think both of them deserve the fate of disappearing and that Heard has got away with it so far which is why people might be more sympathetic to Depp amd yet both are toxic.

But, and in my very personal experience with domestic abuse, the way he described that and the way she just acknowledged it "kind of" happened struck a nerve. That analogy he used is exactly what I used before, like being a boxer not wanting to get up from the stool, trying to find a room for solace for a breather. I don't know what that voice recording was, but it was way too close to home.
 

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Wow, Heard is getting destroyed. She's been caught in dozens of lies.


Thinking a woman is hot is misogynistic?
I'd say the misogyny comes in if/when people focus on the lawyer's physical qualities over her legal mind. On a football forum where this trial is a spectator sport, spectating is part of the game. The lawyer is hot. Johnny Depp is hot. If anyone claimed JD hired this lawyer because she was hot and not because she was a brilliant attorney, that would be misogynistic. If you were officially tasked with covering this case and you focused your reporting on how hot the lawyer was, that would also qualify. I would say this lawyer is most likely not interested in people's opinions of her hotness, because she's probably been hearing it since she hit puberty. I would also venture to guess that she hopes when this trial is done, people will marvel at how JD's lawyer thoroughly and comprehensively destroyed the opposition's case, no hotness mentioned.
 

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What I found strange was when the lawyer showed AH 2 photos which she claimed were taken the night she had facial bruises. Both photos are clearly identical. One has just been modified by increasing contrast to make bruises look worse.

The lawyer accused her of editing the photo to which AH denied it saying she’s never edited a photo. The lawyer should have pushed further to show that even the strands of hair that are moving around were exactly the same in both photos. They could literally be overlaid against each other.
 

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What I found strange was when the lawyer showed AH 2 photos which she claimed were taken the night she had facial bruises. Both photos are clearly identical. One has just been modified by increasing contrast to make bruises look worse.

The lawyer accused her of editing the photo to which AH denied it saying she’s never edited a photo. The lawyer should have pushed further to show that even the strands of hair that are moving around were exactly the same in both photos. They could literally be overlaid against each other.
From what I've seen, there are a few bits like that. Not sure why there are not specialists showing that kind of thing, since it's quite easy to show doctored images.
 
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I'd say the misogyny comes in if/when people focus on the lawyer's physical qualities over her legal mind. On a football forum where this trial is a spectator sport, spectating is part of the game. The lawyer is hot. Johnny Depp is hot. If anyone claimed JD hired this lawyer because she was hot and not because she was a brilliant attorney, that would be misogynistic. If you were officially tasked with covering this case and you focused your reporting on how hot the lawyer was, that would also qualify. I would say this lawyer is most likely not interested in people's opinions of her hotness, because she's probably been hearing it since she hit puberty. I would also venture to guess that she hopes when this trial is done, people will marvel at how JD's lawyer thoroughly and comprehensively destroyed the opposition's case, no hotness mentioned.
Stop using the word man, you haven’t a scooby what it means.
 

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Wish I could watch, but I'm at work. Are they still cross-examining her?
 

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Btw, for anyone wanting a breakdown on Amber staging the evidence of the cocaine scene, I'll provide one here.

I'll be referencing two pictures for this:
Photo 1

Photo 2

Notice how these pictures are near identical & clearly of the same scene. Photo 1 was not submitted into evidence but photo 2 was. Notice that next to the driving licence in photo 2 there is a box with a pirate theme & the engraving "Property of JD" that is not present in picture 1. This clearly shows that picture 1 was taken first, decided to not be proof enough for the staged scene & then the "property of JD" item was added for the 2nd picture that was then submitted into evidence. For us to believe this wasn't staged we need to believe that JD drew out 4 lines of coke, decided not to snort them, left the scene & Amber then arrived to take picture 1. Amber then left & JD returned to perfectly frame his box with "property of JD" written on it & then he left again whilst still not snorting the coke. Amber then returns for a final time to take picture 2. If that sounds insanely fecking far-fetched then that's because it is.

The scene is also used to show alcohol use & has other identifiers that she believed made it good evidence but just make it scream "STAGED!!!". Notice the newspaper in the picture, to help date the picture to go along with her story. A rolled up, unsmoked cigarette on the right that she claims was also JD's. The drivers licence that we're to assume was the card used to draw the lines of cocaine, however there's an issue here. The licence being faced down is no coincidence, it is because the other side has the face of Amber Heard on it. She couldn't ask JD for his licence to stage a photograph against him so she had to use her own & hope it go unnoticed. However if you zoom in you'll see the shape of the signature & for reference I'll post Amber's & Johnny's signatures here too.

Amber's signature

Johnny's signature

Imagine going to all that effort to stage a cocaine scene to accuse Depp of doing drugs despite him being open about doing drugs. Jesus wept.
What strikes me about these photos is that pint of Hefeweizen. Anyone who has done a ton of blow knows that cocaine does not pair at all with Hefeweizen. I refuse to believe Johnny would make this rookie mistake.
 

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What I found strange was when the lawyer showed AH 2 photos which she claimed were taken the night she had facial bruises. Both photos are clearly identical. One has just been modified by increasing contrast to make bruises look worse.

The lawyer accused her of editing the photo to which AH denied it saying she’s never edited a photo. The lawyer should have pushed further to show that even the strands of hair that are moving around were exactly the same in both photos. They could literally be overlaid against each other.
Yea, I was disappointed with this. Would have asked how Amber managed to go and turn on the lights and return to the exact same position with every single stray strand of hair perfectly replaced like they were in the first picture. It's 100% undeniable proof she edits her photos to create injuries.
 

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I'd say the misogyny comes in if/when people focus on the lawyer's physical qualities over her legal mind. On a football forum where this trial is a spectator sport, spectating is part of the game. The lawyer is hot. Johnny Depp is hot. If anyone claimed JD hired this lawyer because she was hot and not because she was a brilliant attorney, that would be misogynistic. If you were officially tasked with covering this case and you focused your reporting on how hot the lawyer was, that would also qualify. I would say this lawyer is most likely not interested in people's opinions of her hotness, because she's probably been hearing it since she hit puberty. I would also venture to guess that she hopes when this trial is done, people will marvel at how JD's lawyer thoroughly and comprehensively destroyed the opposition's case, no hotness mentioned.
You're right in certain parts but people on a football forum commenting that a woman is attractive isn't misogyni in my opinion. Someone saying that a certain football player looks good doesn't automatically take away that he/she is talented, unless you actually say it specifically.
 

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Yea, I was disappointed with this. Would have asked how Amber managed to go and turn on the lights and return to the exact same position with every single stray strand of hair perfectly replaced like they were in the first picture. It's 100% undeniable proof she edits her photos to create injuries.
That's easy. She's an actress. Just put a bit of tape on the floor where you need to stand and strike a pose. They do that stuff all the time and could probably pull it off quite convincingly.
 

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Yea, I was disappointed with this. Would have asked how Amber managed to go and turn on the lights and return to the exact same position with every single stray strand of hair perfectly replaced like they were in the first picture. It's 100% undeniable proof she edits her photos to create injuries.
They will keep that for the closing I reckon?
 

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That's easy. She's an actress. Just put a bit of tape on the floor where you need to stand and strike a pose. They do that stuff all the time and could probably pull it off quite convincingly.
With every single strand of hair in exactly the same place? Yeaaaaaaaaaaaa
 

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Maybe. There's also this proof from yesterday that Amber not only photoshops pictures but uses pictures as evidence of different events:
Is the left one supposed to be blood? Clearly same scene/picture but left is edited for contrast heavily, i tried it in Lightroom.
 

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I dont understand how a legal team could get picture evidence so badly wrong.

They must have gone through every image. Why do they have more images of Depp asleep than Amber injured? What did the comatose Depp images add to her case, other than to highlight how few of her own "injuries" were documented?

And why didnt they assign every (faked) image they were submitting to one event so as to not tie themselves in knots?
 

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I dont understand how a legal team could get picture evidence so badly wrong.

They must have gone through every image. Why do they have more images of Depp asleep than Amber injured? What did the comatose Depp images add to her case, other than to highlight how few of her own "injuries" were documented?

And why didnt they assign every (faked) image they were submitting to one event so as to not tie themselves in knots?
I guess when your client lies to you so much it is possible that you might miss something.
 
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I guess when your client lies to you so much it is possible that you might miss something.
It’s so fecking weird though. She missed the penknife that she clearly left on the “torn up bed”, and amazingly didn’t get a picture of the blood on the bed.
How the feck have her legal team not just said “you’ve fecked these pics, we cannot use them as they are clearly staged and will harm your case”. You can’t photograph a shit tonne of insignificant stuff like the bed, be stupid (or coked up enough) to leave the knife that you obviously cut the bed up with, on the fecking bed and in the picture, and just somehow miss the important part with all the blood.
Absolute moron.
 
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You're right in certain parts but people on a football forum commenting that a woman is attractive isn't misogyni in my opinion. Someone saying that a certain football player looks good doesn't automatically take away that he/she is talented, unless you actually say it specifically.
Right, but, in the corporate world over here (USA) we actually have training that specifically references this. The idea is, a woman should be free of having her appearance commented on by the male gaze, whether that's a positive or a negative comment is irrelevant. You are told to refrain from saying to a coworker things like "you look nice today" or "that outfit/dress really suits you". It may sound harmless, the person saying it may not have any evil intent or sexual impulses bubbling beneath the surface, but those comments will (and do) get you reported to HR. The same way a man wouldn't go up to another man (presumably) and say, "You'd be a lot prettier if you smiled more" or something of that nature, a man might feel entitled to say that to a woman. Misogyny is represented in the power imbalance between the sexes, where women are judged on their appearance (and how much they smile) where men are not. Doesn't mean you hate women. It means you're participating in misogynistic behavior.
 

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Right, but, in the corporate world over here (USA) we actually have training that specifically references this. The idea is, a woman should be free of having her appearance commented on by the male gaze, whether that's a positive or a negative comment is irrelevant. You are told to refrain from saying to a coworker things like "you look nice today" or "that outfit/dress really suits you". It may sound harmless, the person saying it may not have any evil intent or sexual impulses bubbling beneath the surface, but those comments will (and do) get you reported to HR. The same way a man wouldn't go up to another man (presumably) and say, "You'd be a lot prettier if you smiled more" or something of that nature, a man might feel entitled to say that to a woman. Misogyny is represented in the power imbalance between the sexes, where women are judged on their appearance (and how much they smile) where men are not. Doesn't mean you hate women. It means you're participating in misogynistic behavior.