Yeah, because Sergio Rico, Aleix Vidal, San José, Nolito and Vitolo are big name players...
Ander Herrera is the most complete midfielder in the league
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Mikel San José Domínguez is a pretty big name tbf.
I think VDB prefers la liga based players. Not sure why.
The whole teams form dropped off towards the end of the season, so that might not have helped. If Ander had been producing the form from that 6 game winning run then VDB would not have been able to justify his exclusion. Spain have some really good players, if he was not in for an Andros Townsend type, then it would be bad.
Im not sure if that's entirely true. David Silva has been a permanent member of the first eleven for a while now. Azpilicueta also started 2 of their 3 world cup games if im not mistaken.
This is what im thinking. Also he hasn't exactly been first choice for the entire season. He started 19 games in the league, that's 'only' half the league games.
But that is because David Silva is one of their best players and Azpil is prob the best RB in their team. For new players, I think he looks more at La Liga.
If we get the right partner for him and are producing consistant top class performances next season, then things might start moving in the right direction.
Not really, he used to pick Torres when he was good, Silva and apzilicueta always play, so does Costa. Saying he only picks La Liga based players is just an excuse for Herrera not being good enough to displace the guys already there like Fabregas, Thiago, Iniesta, Koke, Martinez etc.
I didn't say he only picks, I said "he prefers"
As long as he is producing the goods for us, that is good enough for me.
You'd think with the way Spain has performed lately that they'd want their best defenders in the squad. Shocking that Azpi has apparently been discarded. They love their pure, attacking wing backs but you'd think Azpi could be used as a different option.
Yeah if anything it should motivate to play and get even better.
Apzilicueta is quality, one of the best full backs in world football, Don't think they will leave him out.
Yeah. Arbeloa, Luis García and Riera for example had no problem getting in the squad when they were at Liverpool. You can disagree with Ander not being selected, but don't think it's fair to say it's because of the league they're in.
I think the reason Azpi is being left out is that Del Bosque is starting to look at him as a LB and he's not going to get ahead of Alba and Bernat. Gaya would be ahead of him as well. He's got to play RB. And if im being honest i didn't find him quite as convincing for Spain at RB as he does for Chelsea at LB. Strange considering he's supposed to be a natural RB.
They did leave him out though, that's the thing, which is why its not just an excuse for herrera. I love Herrera of course, but one position where he won't be starting for Spain is center mid, they're just too stacked. Fabregas isn't even a starter for the national team, or at least hasn't been for the majority of his career.
I do think he should be in the squad at least though. He's been class and if he was playing like this in la liga he'd definitely get called up like aleix Vidal and the others.
And more importantly, Spain want their width to mainly provided by their fullbacks, Azpi is decent when attacking but outstanding when defending. His qualities do not suit the Spanish national team.
I'm not sure he's played to a level comparable with Ramsey of 13/14 but with Aaron's unnoteworthy form and Toure's rapid regression in mentality and endurance, he's definitely been the most complete in the league this season.
Yeah that makes sense. I think even Ivanovic provides more of an attacking threat. Azpilicueta might be the best defending fullback but he's certainly not the most complete and i think in today's game, certainly in teams like Spain or even ours its as important for the fullbacks to help out in offense as it is for the midfielders to help out in defense.
He's the archetype of the Mourinho player. He loves him so much.
They're only squad players and play in Spain. Big difference I suppose as Mata isn't in there either
Is he going to be a nailed on starter under LVG next season?
The reason Herrera doesn't get selected for Spain is simple:
1) They have enough midfielders who are already a level above him, playing regularly in better teams
2) No wait, that was it.
1) They have enough midfielders who are already a level above him, playing regularly in better teams
2) No wait, that was it.
I also remember that in Spain they used to say that he was a spanish PL player, a box to box full of energy, which isn't the type of midfielder the national team uses.
http://streamable.com/4nai
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That was from several months ago.
English players are taught how to first touch completely wrong,
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That was from several months ago.
English players are taught how to first touch completely wrong,
He suited Bilbao, but he actually suits the PL very well.
Love the way he controls the ball and in the same movement turns to create space for himself.http://streamable.com/4nai
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That was from several months ago.
English players are taught how to first touch completely wrong,
Bilbao is a very direct team, they suit the PL, like Osasuna a few seasons ago who where more physical than Stoke.
Bilbao definitely aren't your typical La Liga side.
Given how sorry Spain were in the last major international tournament, you'd think it was time they went for a bit of structural change and brought in consistent performers like De Gea, Herrera and Azpilicueta (whether that's simply just in the squad and in my opinion as starters). It's bizarre how underused they all are by their country.
There isn't a typical La Liga side, though.
I think the manager likes his favourites and tbh is scared to go risky. Making a lot of changes would be too risky for him.
Precisely, I've said it for years about the Barca lot. (not that I'm claiming anything by that)Love the way he controls the ball and in the same movement turns to create space for himself.
English players are taught from age 0 to cushion the ball with the first touch and pass with the second... with the same foot. But that movement, (Cushion, move leg back, shift weight, move foot forward) wastes an incredible amount of time.
Herrara and the Barca lot especially can move the ball with the first touch away from any oncoming player. It's not rocket science, but they do it so well.
Look at this magnificent man
Straight in, taking the new guys under his wing.....What a guy
Straight in, taking the new guys under his wing.....What a guy
What a fecking midifeld!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks quite proud of the fact he managed to hog the seat by Schweinsteiger straight away.
So we have the two most complete midfielders in the league now as Schneiderlin was the other popular answer?
I think we have all three now tbh!So we have the two most complete midfielders in the league now as Schneiderlin was the other popular answer?
Fellaini, Herrera and who?
Oh you.
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