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2024-25 Performances


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5.4 Season Average Rating
Appearances
50
Clean sheets
11
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
1
Yeah. Bizarre really. I get Onana isn't good enough but being gleeful in an ex player talking him down, who went 5 years without a trophy at the club is something else.
Exactly, I'd understand it to an extent if it came from a former great but Matic? He's in no position to be talking about anyone's performance for this club.
 
If only the rest of them had the privilege of a rock solid defence led by Harry fecking Maguire in front of them, and had spent the majority of their performances under ETH's crazy tactics.
What are you on about? Need I remind you who was in front of DDG for most of his time here? Smalling, Rojo, Baily, later the aforementioned Maguire. Oh and let's not forget, DDG had no proper fullbacks, we had Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia filling in those roles.

Why is everyone mad at Matic? If Onana was half decent Matic wouldn't have ammo to shoot at him, would he now?
 
What are you on about? Need I remind you who was in front of DDG for most of his time here? Smalling, Rojo, Baily, later the aforementioned Maguire. Oh and let's not forget, DDG had no proper fullbacks, we had Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia filling in those roles.

Why is everyone mad at Matic? If Onana was half decent Matic wouldn't have ammo to shoot at him, would he now?
DDG played in a counter attack team for all of his time here, I expected his stats to be a lot better but the reality is pre WC18 he was awesome and the last 4-5 seasons he was inconsistent with some horrible lows and clangers just as bad as Onana.

Looking at those stats though, barthez is lucky people seemed to like him. He played with a top level team and was pretty crap statistically.
 
What are you on about? Need I remind you who was in front of DDG for most of his time here? Smalling, Rojo, Baily, later the aforementioned Maguire. Oh and let's not forget, DDG had no proper fullbacks, we had Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia filling in those roles.

Why is everyone mad at Matic? If Onana was half decent Matic wouldn't have ammo to shoot at him, would he now?

Take a breath. According to the stats above, Roy Carroll is the best goalkeeper in United's history. Don't you think something is off here?

Yes, Matic is wrong. While Onana leaves a lot to be desired, he's not the worst goalkeeper in our history.

Our Post-Shot xG in this season and the last (PL only) is > 100. In 69 games, our defence actually "deserves" to have conceded 100 goals. Let that sink in for a moment.
 
This is a difficult one, because the eye test for me agrees with Matic. I’ve never seen a keeper parry as many shots as him or make so many costly errors in such a short space of time as the standout number one, but it coincides with the worst outfield side we’ve ever had.

I think Matic goes too far with his comments, but also isn’t far off. We’re talking about a keeper who picks the ball out of his net every 63 minutes and is the only keeper I’ve ever seen come out and say they need to get better.

I don’t know whether Onana was posed a question or made a remark off his own back, but it’s also idiotic to discuss us being better in a presser when we’re at the lowest point in modern history. Talking about wanting to be better and doing better is fine but beyond that, just keep it completely humble imo.

For me he’s one of the first players I’d like the club to replace up there with Hojlund, so I find it difficult to ‘back him’ even if Matic is out of order.
 
What Matic said was factual. He is probably the worst all things considered in the PL era. Taibi and Carroll did not cost £50m and Onana is good for a minimum of two brain farts per game. He is the last person in this team I want to hear anything from. Just keep quiet and actually do your job without any mistakes for once and then maybe other people won't find any holes in your game.
 
And we've conceded 96. What's your point?

That our sorry state amplifies his shortcomings since he arrived?

De Gea, for example, had a negative PSxG in the five out of his last six seasons at the club. That would have translated to more than 100 goals conceded under the same circumstances.

Barthez (who never looked calm and secure in a title-challenging side) would have been annihilated and suffering from PTSD with last season's tactics.
 
I just hope to feck he backs it up tonight. Huge performance to send Matic to the retirement home, please!
 
So despite all the noise, Onana is actually an upgrade on prime De Gea, good to have that clarified. Thank god for meaningless stats.

Hopefully provide some comfort to us all the next time Andre throws the ball into his own net.

I know. Stats that don't agree with the infamous "eye-test" are always meaningless. I never claimed that he is good enough or an upgrade on prime De Gea. But you do you.
 
What Matic said was factual. He is probably the worst all things considered in the PL era. Taibi and Carroll did not cost £50m and Onana is good for a minimum of two brain farts per game. He is the last person in this team I want to hear anything from. Just keep quiet and actually do your job without any mistakes for once and then maybe other people won't find any holes in your game.
Good to know people are being balanced and level headed in their offensive against our players.
 
If it wasn't for Onana, we would never see goals during our games. So relax on the criticism guys
 
Just making the point that nobody one would ever try to claim Onana is a better goalkeeper than De Gea, let alone a better shot stopper, let alone a better shot stopper in big games.

So any post-goal expected save model that makes it seem like he is better, has to be worthless.

The last five seasons of his United career, De Gea was average at best (at this level). Being jobless for a year and then signing for a midtable club in Serie A serves as an indication of that. So, it's not just the models, the football world seemed to think the same, too. Onana has been poor thus far. I just pointed out that he hasn't "cost" us that much to be labelled the worst keeper in United's history.
 
If it wasn't for Onana, we would never see goals during our games. So relax on the criticism guys
That should be a positive right? More clean sheets the better. We’d have a ton more draws but less defeats
 
So Matic the player can not criticize how Onana is crap, but Matic the United fan can point out that Onana is crap?

And as the follow up from Onana shows, he clearly is not a snowflake like some of you, he gloats about his glorious trophy season of 2024, let's hope he doesn't produce some of his European nights specials tonight.

I referred to professional athletes in generally, not one player in particular. Imagine if you're Lionel Messi or anyone and you decide to have a go at a particular player you've never met before. That would be poor form. On the hand, if that other player went into you with studs up or called you mum a pole smoker, then by all means have at it. That other player drew first blood and deserves what he gets in return. This whole tit for tat is ridiculous and needs to be buried.
 
Exactly, I'd understand it to an extent if it came from a former great but Matic? He's in no position to be talking about anyone's performance for this club.
I don't like what he said one bit but of course he is legit to say what he said. Don't need to be a great to say a simple truth
 
It's still an extremely shit thing to say in official presser and it was a really dick move. Unless he wanted to put extra pressure on him. In that case, I guess he got it right. All is fair in love and war etc...
 
Matic can feck off.
True, and at the same time it's true that we would be better off without Onana, and his quote about the club being commercially-focused is spot on.

Not his place to be saying those things in a presser, but it's all part of the mind games. Ironically, I would hope that his comments would put some more heat on Onana to actually come good consistently (which we've been waiting on for 2.5 seasons now) or be shipped out.
 
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