he is the best in the PL and by some way, and in top 5 in World.
André Onana | signed for United | On a flight to NYC
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So, is this actually going to happen, or not? 
It's a done dealio.
He still made some worldie saves but for atleast 3 or 4 seasons now he has let in absolute howlers as well
People will soon realise De Gea has been holding us back for 10 years with his lack of authority in the box as much as anything. It’ll be eye opening for many.
Romano claimed Onana ate his last supper yesterday. Lets hope the club finalise the transfer today.
Gotta love a post dripping in irony.
He said wed/thursday were crucial days for the deal - and yesterday it was widely reported the transfer moved to final stages. That's accurate from a journalistic POV unless you have unrealistic expectations of journalists.
Most would come to Same conclusion if Onana Succeed here but there would still be Some De Gea fanatics who would continue to argue otherwise and would be extra critical probably downright petty to downplay Onana's performances and his role in evolution of this Team and god forbids if he fails then they would have a field day .
All shots against him last season.
I hope we seal his transfer before USA pre-season tour. Romano says €50m plus €5m in add-ons. Apparently Inter were originally asking for €60m so looks like upfront payment saving of €10m which will help with FFP. Just waiting on the ‘Here we go!’ now. Exciting signing. Will transform how we play out from the back and build attacks.
All decent keepers pull off the occasional save that people consider amazing. You only have to look at how often we bemoan about the opposition keeper having a great game against us where they pull of a couple of great saves. I was actually taking note of this in the last month or two of the season and in the comfortably majority of them the opposition keeper made better saves than De Gea did. Obviously we're normally the better team so the other keeper got more opportunities to make those saves, but it still showed that he's hardly having to keep us in games like he once did.
De Gea still does the true 'world class' save a bit more than average, but not that much more. Nowhere near as much as he once did or that a lot of people make out he still does.
It's not though is it, you're basing it off the links we have that journalists confirmed.OK, if he signs in the next couple of days, its proof they know what's going on.
Let me add this
Manchester United will complete the signing of Andre Onana by Wednesday 19 July 2023 at 3pm Uk time. This is according to redcafe poster red.knight
Time to fire up the flight tracker?
Probably not.So, is this actually going to happen, or not?
Probably 2 you would call real mistakes, maybe another couple you'd hope he could do better. About standard for a keeper at this level.
One thing is we are going to need to teach him to hold on to the ball better. I had not noticed that before from watching him in games.
Going off all the clips available, and the 'eye test' over the years, I'd say Onana is an agile keeper capable of making some good reactionary saves, but his handling is only OK and he isn't a big physical presence in goal when dealing with things like one on ones.
So, in terms of shot saving, I'd say he's just about average really and nothing that would stand out as elite quality. What puts him closer to that level is his ability with the ball at his feet, his quick releases with throws, and his vision to spot free teammates and help start attacks, etc. That, combined with average 'old school' keeper attributes, puts him well above average overall.
Had De Gea still been top level in his shot saving ability and consistency, then it would be a close battle as to what we're losing and what we're gaining. As it is, with De Gea dropping down to only being pretty average as well in terms of the consistency of his shot stopping, then I'd say we might not be gaining much in regards to that, but we're not losing as much as we would have been either, and hopefully we'll be gaining plenty with Onana's ability on the ball and improved distribution.
I'm on it!
Has anyone mentioned ACN or why we didn't sign him earlier?
10 years is a bit of a fecking stretch. The last four years maybe.
I'd say you're wrong about his one on one ability. It was probably what impressed me most in his first seasons at Ajax.
Also in terms of shot saving, he was consistently (towards the) top of the stats in the CL both at Ajax and I believe at Inter this season as well.
I stopped money laundering years ago
Nope. He’s always put us under pressure because of his timidness and lack of all round game. Amazing shot stopper yes, but if you look back you’ll see him costing us time and time again through a lack of command, coming for crosses, forcing our defenders to defend so deep etc.
He's never been commanding though.
That's good to hear.
He is the total package. Arguably the best shot stopper in the world (albeit not as good as De Gea at his best), one of the best in passing the ball, and very good at crosses.
Since Neuer/De Gea/Oblak regressed, Alisson has been the best keeper in the world. And even at their peak, only Neuer has been better.
Van Der Sar was never an elite shot stopper but everything else he was top 2 or 3 in the world. As long as your shot stopping is respectable i don't think its a big focus in the modern game.
*gyrates around the living room*
In a Pep accent: So so so so close. So VERY CLOSE. Closer than close.
Upgraded from close to imminent...!!
Yeah, true.
Just pointing out in my assessment of both that I don't think it's much of an upgrade in terms of shot stopping / handling - though, because of De Gea's regression in those areas, it's not a downgrade either. And with all the pluses that Onana brings to the table then I think, overall, it's a significant upgrade - especially in order to play ETH's preferred style of play.
My unpopular opinion is that he’s a bit too adventurous for a keeper and it’ll probably cost us in a few games this season.
I hope not, but I’ve a feeling that he’ll do similar to Kepa Avadakedavra.
I hope not, but I’ve a feeling that he’ll do similar to Kepa Avadakedavra.
And there’s your I’m gonna judge off a 3minute YouTube clip right there
Thank you. Now this song is stuck in my head.
Doesn't matter because he'll elevate our game to a whole new level and we'll win/score goals we wouldn't with Mr. Timid in the past.
It’s crazy. People are acting like he’s going to be making howlers on a weekly basis yet probably haven’t watched him at any length to form an opinion.
Top unpopular opinion about Onana:
1. Too brave / adventurous
2. Why didnt we sign him for free
3. Ten Hag trusts him and has worked with him before
4. He must have agreed to join because De Gea left
That's a sensible view and one that I share. I don't think there's evidence of Onana being an top shotstopper but doesn't seem there are many of those available, so we're getting an all-round package with strong distribution skills. What sounds like a decent deal at quoted fees. I also expect this to be a significant upgrade on DDG.
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