Who the feck is Schneider?
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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Your ability as a winger shouldn’t be tied to who is playing behind you. Also Malacia needs time to bed in. He maybe go, be may have potential but we won’t that for quite for some time.
He's a shit American actor I think
Rob Schneider? Come on that guy can be funny at times.
Last season, 8 goals 4 assists in the Eredivisie in 23 matches, year before: 9 goals, 8 assists in 32 matches.
No figures that stand out in any way. Gakpo, Karlsson and Sinisterra were substantially more productive.
You think every match played is 90 minutes?
Karlsson, Gakpo, Sinissterra were also the star players on their team. Antony shares the load with Haller, Tadic, Berghuis.
They are all very good players mind, think Antony is better than them.
On top of that, the stats you mentioned per match still arent mediocre, let alone when you look at them p90.
All in different summers
my point was originally that if they spend big on Antony this summer that they then won’t then spend big on a DM
I’m not sure what’s happening. You’re trying to debunk me but with absolutely nothing to debunk me with
Gakpo looks wank in general play to be honest. We saw Rashford hit 20 goals in a season his general play was atrocious. That stuff isn't sustainable.
It's easier for a player to be more productive in a team with less stars. Antony also had to compete with other "star" players for assists and goals. Sinisterra and Sinisterra however were pretty much alone. This also explains why Berghuis went from great stats to decent stats when he joined Ajax.
Gakpo does look wank yeah, he was the player of the season in Eredevisie. At the same time we've got this Ajax whopper telling us how lucky we would be to get Antony for 80 million quid.
Can’t wait for the complaints when next year we’re wondering why we haven’t got the budget to address other areas because we spunked it on a guy who doesn’t even look like the Dutch league’s best attacker.
Exactly this.
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His stats arent out of this world, but very good in such a star heavy team, as a winger that doesn't take set pieces.
Let alone all the other value he brings.
Exactly, it is a stupid myth that people keep repeating here that Antony has bad stats.
His stats arent out of this world, but very good in such a star heavy team, as a winger that doesn't take set pieces.
Let alone all the other value he brings.
From what I've seen Antony has a much higher potential than Gakpo, spending 80m on him is a massive risk though.
I don’t care. Find him and sign him.
So in the Pogba window we also spent £37m on Mkhitaryan and £35m on Bailly. We also picked up Zlatan on a free but on big wages.
The following window we signed Lukaku at £76m, Matic at £40m, Lindelof at £31m and Sanchez on a free but on big wages.
In the Maguire window we signed Wan-Bissaka for £50m and Dan James are £16m. We then spent £55m on Fernandes in January.
Arnold leaked to fans there’s £200m this summer to spend. Even if you don’t believe that to be true it’s quite clear there’s money left to spend and a big chunk of the wage bill freed up to utilise.
If we get Antony at the rumoured £67m there’s still scope to sign another player or two in the same ball park when you factor in our outgoings.
What you said about the club not paying more than £65m for players is factually incorrect.
These stats aren't mediocre, they're decent but nothing exceptional. Even if I equate it to a G/A per 90 minutes it isn't too great.
They have multiple options in attack.. Bergwijn, Tadic, Brobbey, Conceicao, Berghuis, Kudus.. All options to play there...
There are also some youth players who could play on the wing knocking on the door... Unuvar, Hansen, Van Axel Dongen..
But the most 1 on 1 replacement would be Francisco Conceicao.. 19 year old left footed right winger we got from Porto (son of...) for 5 million EU... He already made about 50 (substitution) appearances for Porto before this season. Schreuder also already mentioned he was bought for the future, but is also already ready to play..
No one is saying it is too great, never has a g/a every 145 mins been bad or mediocre for a winger though. Especially given the context of his role in the best team of the league.
Will take Olise or Neto at this point. Even Asensio. Antony isn't going to help us this season. Better aownd that 80m on somewhere else.
This is nonsense. At Feyenoord there were multiple players with more than 10 G/A (Til, Dessers, Kokcu, Linssen) and still Sinisterra outperformed Antony heavily. If you're a right winger at Ajax and you play RKC and Go Ahead Eagles week in week out you need to be exceptional in your stats in order to make it to the PL and become an instant success. I don't want to spend huge amount of money of someone who wasn't even in the top-15 MVP's at the Eredivisie last season.
But most of all, I dislike this transfer most because it shows the complete lack of creativity of our scouting department. Focusing only on players that are either Dutch, have worked directly with EtH or have a history at the Eredivisie/Ajax just gives me the creeps. In an environment in a football club where governance is being taken seriously, a new manager should never leave his mark that heavily on a transfer window imo.
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again.. you’re debunking me with nothing
you argue that United not spending 65m plus on two players in one summer is factually incorrect while giving a load of examples to prove your point… none of which they spent 65m on more than two players in one summer
so I’m very confused why you’re arguing
Ah sorry I see what you’re saying now.
Yes unlikely. Possibly in January as per the Bruno window but would be a first in one window.
The glazers need to come out of their own pocket for 80m to get this guy.
They really fecking need to. cnuts.
They really fecking need to. cnuts.
Mediocre means depressingly average.
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sadly, so are we...
Oh, it's on TalkBollox so it must be true/factual
Ajax wont get a better price in a seasons time, if a reasonable 80m eur comes in they should let him leave or risk S. American talent having an impression they are stuck.
One they say "one last time" does that mean the comedy duo actually getting of their arses and doing something?
I don't agree. None of these replacements are anywhere near Antony's level (yet). Selling Antony for me is only acceptable if we get Ziyech back in return (which I can actually see happening now as he's still a Chelsea player).
Mate you're forgetting one thing here: Ajax does not need the money. The club is ambitious and growing, we have enough money already. The times were Ajax needed to sell to survive are over. I don't see it happening really. Financially it is not needed, and perhaps it's smarter to keep him on board so we can win the league again and get CL money.
The white Brazilian. But already 48 years old. Doubt he could help you.
Well.. true... None of them is that leve rightl... But thats Ajax right.. We sell our top players and then replace them with talent which is not quite there yét but have potential top become top players as well... We buy players when we think the talent behind it isnt good enough to start (yet), so there is a gap in the squad. There is no gap in the current squad is Antony leaves as we have enough people to play right wing, but of lesser immediate quality indeed.. On top of that we already bougth Conceicao as a direct replacement for Antony..
According to your logic we should have made a move for a Gravenberch replacement, because Taylor is not Gravenberch level (yet)..
This is Ajax.. Selling our top talent players when top clubs come for them is part of our appeal for the kind of talent in the Antony category.. Not saying we should bend forwards everytime someone comes, but when there are huge amounts of money involved and the player has already had value for Ajax so doesnt leave before florishing (Antony was sensational in the Champions League and contributed to two championships), thats what we do.. We sell..
Dont get me wrong.. I would love to see him stay.. But given the current state of our squad and the amount of money which is (allegedly) offered for him, saying that it's not acceptable for him to leave is ridiculous in my opinion..
I hear that, but they also rely on talent from abroad to come to Ajax as a stepping stone for big clubs. Martinez went over the line because ultimately a very reasonable fee was given and reputationally Ajax had to heed to that. The same goes for Antony one would think.
If I could ask ETH any question now, absolutely any question it would be why did he go for Martinez and not just put that money on Antony instead...
We had Varane, Lindelof, Tuanzebe and Captain Calamity. However our attacking options is a steaming pile of....
Whole fanbase would be at least more content if we had this guy in the team instead of a midget CB.
We had Varane, Lindelof, Tuanzebe and Captain Calamity. However our attacking options is a steaming pile of....
Whole fanbase would be at least more content if we had this guy in the team instead of a midget CB.
Was absolutely fcuking nuts i agree.
Rejected 80 million euros?
Cheeky cnuts!
Cheeky cnuts!
Gakpo plays on the left. Antony plays on the right. Why do they keep linking the two together?
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