It's really really weird, the amount of hatred in here for Rachel Riley posting something relatively innocuous on twitter, which then got picked up and sensationalised by the rag papers. Doesn't really surprise me since some of ye are just cnuts, but a lot are falling into the trap set by the Sun and the like.
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Part of the problem is the entitlement of wealthy, young, idolised men, who in some senses have never had to really grow up. They (some) believe they can get away with things that the common man wouldn’t. I don’t think it’s a Utd issue specifically
Allegedly you mean. It's all hearsay until proven.
I known women who've headbutted men, maybe you need to get out more
I’m not sure what’s gone on in here, but I’d be deeply offended if this doesn’t include me. I work hard to be part of these generalisations.
What’s that based on?
He was arrested and released on bail. Don’t recall the duration of his jail time, probably not long considering he is a millionaire, but that case went much further than Antony’s (who hasn’t been arrested) case has so far.
To be fair though Partey kept playing while on bail I think.
I don’t remember her saying specifically that Amber Heard was entirely innocent. I do think she has a point about Depp, I think he got away with some pretty nasty stuff.
I don't like Rachel Riley for obvious tory reasons and her harassment of Corbyn.
However on this she is totally correct as she is on Greenwood.
Manchester United cannot be seen to condone these acts. We know they wanted to keep Greenwood and they will try their best to ignore Antony.
They cannot be allowed to do so. There are bigger things than football
No, it's just that a proportion of people, men and women, are cnuts. It's not as if we are talking about things that are rare in the rest of the population, if anything the issue is that people forget that famous people aren't different to the rest outside of being famous.
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Corbyn made a number of comments that many Jews considered anti-semitic. That's a form of racism. Unless you think you are better qualified than they are to identify anti-semitism? Riley is Jewish and perfectly entitled to call him out on it. Just like she's a woman entitled to her view on Greenwood. Telling her to fek off and get back in her box isn't a great look.
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I think we know now that United doesn't do fast.
But they're probably right. In the Greenwood case the ball was in club's court for 6 months and we were waiting on them.
Here it's better to see if there's any development in the investigation or the legal front which MU has no control over. I'd wait the end of the international break to assess.
She claims she used the club doctor, after he knocked two bells into her, are we meant to believe the club are going THAT far to ignore Antony?
I think they are probably deliberating what the response should be, because they need to tread carefully here
The club won’t say anything unless he’s arrested/charged.
Their club doctor is being named in the accusation, it kind of makes it a bit more complicated
What acts are those? There is no proof that Antony did what she alleges. He hasn’t even been charged yet. Do you understand the concept of presumption of innocence? It used to be an important aspect of the Western legal system.
Did they fall into the trap or jump headlong. I think a lot of these guys know exactly what they’re doing here.
There may be grey areas involved but accusing Depp of doing everything that Depp was suing Amber for in the middle of the trial and listing them as facts is basically why Depp sued in the first place. She accused him of cheerleading domestic abuse after winning the defamation trial. She’s lucky she wasn’t sued herself
Tbf, it's been hours since our last scandal, so we are due one.
If there's really been a claim involving the club doctor, surely that would be relatively easy to corroborate or disprove?
Stupid president set by the club on this issue, there are going to be loads of allegations by people in relation to footballers by the very virtue that these men are millionaires. You cannot suspend everyone there is an allegation against, you’d have no team left by the end of the year. If charges are brought then drop him and wait to see, otherwise carry on as is. I’m hoping the difference is with greenwood that the verbals released were sickening and left us in a very very bad position. I’m hoping just for footballing sakes that he stays until evidence seems he is suitable to be charged. Adam Johnson for middlesborough continued playing when he had committed the most awful crimes imagined.
The players need someone employed by the club to sit down with every player and coach and reiterate how to be a good human being and get ahead of the curve with these things.
Farcical I’m hoping this is the straw that breaks the glazers back. I know it’s nothing to do with them but I blame them completely
The players need someone employed by the club to sit down with every player and coach and reiterate how to be a good human being and get ahead of the curve with these things.
Farcical I’m hoping this is the straw that breaks the glazers back. I know it’s nothing to do with them but I blame them completely
A lot of incidents like that have happened in the past. Woman always try and con famous or rich people. I’m not saying it’s always the case by the way but it is possible.
I think it’s unlikely, but that would be massive if true. Presidents got taken down on the basis of “what did he know and when did he know it”? It would be a huge PR nightmare for the club if it turns out the club knew, and was involved in the treatment
Thank you for clarifying that anti semitism is a form of racism. I'm not sure why you're implying that I think otherwise.Now without wanting to derail this thread, can you please direct me to some of the anti semitic comments made by Corbyn (probably best to PM me). As far as I'm aware, the only legitimate claims labelled at him were for failing to hand out harsher punishments to other MPs in the Labour Party who actually made anti semitic comments.
It's not a problem. The vast majority of footballers don't get involved in issues like the one Antony is alleged of being involved in.
I'm sure on a stats basis the number of footballers caught up in this is significantly lower than that of the general population.
What a mess this club is in. there's simply something or other scandal popping up every alternate days. Missing Fergie days.
I really hope this Domestic Abuse thread relating to one of our players doesn't become as unhinged as the Greenwood one.
God dammit.
I don’t think she’s done anything wrong re: Greenwood, but if her conduct as described above is true then yeah that’s awful.
I'd say it makes it easier because if she claimed this in public and/or to authorities that's possibly something police might look into : Hence, no comment on an ongoing investigation. We will release a statement when appropriate. Press might dig about it though.
If there's any truth to that specific detail however the club has a much bigger problem than making timely statements.
There's a link in my post. Glad you think it's funny.
Now without wanting to derail this thread, can you please direct me to some of the anti semitic comments made by Corbyn. As far as I'm aware, the only legitimate claims labelled at him were for failing to hand out harsher punishments to other MPs in the Labour Party who actually made anti semitic comments.
Yeah, but at the same time urging people to vote Tory - who were led by a guy who has a list of racist comments as long as your arm - was a strange one. Maybe she feels that Islamophobia is less important than anti-semitism?
Oh I’d estimate much higher, as a proportion. I don’t know if any statistician has tried to look at the raw numbers, but I’d be interested to see if they have.
My post is purely based on my own observations and so could quite likely be diametrically opposed to actual fact!
What a load of shite that article is.
Maybe whataboutery isn't an argument?
Glad you are more qualified than a Jew to identify anti-semitism. I had not realised the Chief Rabbi was amongst us
She feels it’s her duty to defend Judaism, and I get that, but it makes her at best an ‘unreliable narrator.’, and at worst a deliberate, knowing, liar who values Jewish life above all others. Which is the lowest of the low. Whatever positive effects she’s had re: greenwood is, to me, hugely outweighed by her one sided view of what’s happening in the Middle East
I thought she was Labour, but just hated corbyn. Could be entirely wrong there
Maybe, but I should imagine/expect it would kick off some internal investigation before statements are made. You could have a situation where the club doctor knows f all about this at all.
Swap “Judaism” for “the Muslim faith” and “Jewish life” with “Muslim” life and you could say the same about any of the Muslim posters on here who share opinions on Middle East politics. Only you wouldn’t. Because you shouldn’t. As it’s a shitty way to write off anyone’s opinion.
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Player(s) plural. I mean Mason Greenwood was 6 when he started with us. What kind of due diligence did she want us to do?
That's a car crash of a post your responding to. You've gone in light there